CanHammer-darren Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Hey guys. I really wanna use this archaeon model. Cause it rocks. Chaos wise I have a bunch of nurgle demons and glottkin, and a lot of khorne bloodbound. Any good list suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killax Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 The cool thing about Archy is that he's such a powerhouse on his own that you can really pick and choose as you like. One of the advantages you'll have with Khorne now over Nurgle is that Archaon also can become part of the Khorne Alliance (same applies for Tzeentch btw). So really go as you please, just know that I think Blood Tithe points can be really powerful with him aswell, so if you'd had to pick between the two for some awesome additional power I'd go Khorne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspirant Snaeper Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Just make a note of his Command Ability. The best lists including Archaon should focus on that ability. Include at least two other units that have a Command Ability of their own and then enough units for THOSE units to buff and force multiply. Running a few groups of Marauders or Bloodreavers with a Mighty Lord of Khorne and Lord of Chaos would be incredibly beneficial. Same applies for Tzeentch equivalents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kovaks Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Does he fit point wise in the 4 bloodthirster list, that would be sick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspirant Snaeper Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Kovaks said: Does he fit point wise in the 4 bloodthirster list, that would be sick Using just the cheapest Bloodthirster of Insensate Rage (280 points), four with Archaon is 1,820 points. For 2500 points and under, I'd focus more on force multiplication with cheaper Hero's with command abilities and cheaper units that can benefit from all the buffs going around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killax Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 3 hours ago, Kovaks said: Does he fit point wise in the 4 bloodthirster list, that would be sick Depends on total available. Its an awesome idea for Narrative play though. Monster mash ftw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanHammer-darren Posted May 14, 2017 Author Share Posted May 14, 2017 What about this. archaeon 1x varanguard 2 Blood secrators 1 blood stoker 1 slaughter priest 3x20 blood reavers dark feast battalion that's a lot of stacking + attacks and rerolls Could also squeeze in sayl somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspirant Snaeper Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 14 minutes ago, CanHammer-darren said: What about this. archaeon 1x varanguard 2 Blood secrators 1 blood stoker 1 slaughter priest 3x20 blood reavers dark feast battalion that's a lot of stacking + attacks and rerolls Could also squeeze in sayl somewhere Not bad, but Archaon* and the Everchosen are almost unnecessary at that point. All of the Hero's you've selected do not have Command Abilities, so it renders Archaon's command ability moot. If anything, I'd just say go full Khorne at that point. Archaon should have at least two Chaos factions with him and you should have at least two-three Hero's with him that have Command Abilities to make the most of. The Mighty Lord of Khorne comes to mind with his excellent charging buff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killax Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 1 hour ago, CanHammer-darren said: What about this. /List that's a lot of stacking + attacks and rerolls Could also squeeze in sayl somewhere Almost seems cool enough but I'd be less inclined to thake a Battalion on top of Archaon. I feel we have a lot of great Battalions but stacking them on top of expensive pieces is far from ideal. What I'd try to include instead is a Khorne Lord on Juggernaut, so Archaon can use his Command Trait, likely a unit of Skullcrushers instead of Varanguard and fill most of the list with Bloodreavers to compensate for the points invested into Archaon. Here some additional Bloodsecrators should be sufficient. A single Bloodstoker is awesome aswell. Adding Sayl is certainly an option, you will however lose out on possible Khorne Alliance benifits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanHammer-darren Posted May 14, 2017 Author Share Posted May 14, 2017 Ok how bout this archaeon varanguard blood secrator blood stoker 2 aspiring deathbringers mighty lord of khorne 30 blood reavers 20 blood reavera 10 bloodreavers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aspirant Snaeper Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 That's more like it. I'd rather stick with 3x20 Bloodreavers though, but all in all that's solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanHammer-darren Posted May 14, 2017 Author Share Posted May 14, 2017 Thinking of adding sayl but doesn't that just slingshot the unit out of range of the buffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choombatta Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 For 2000 points, how about something like: Archaon Lord of Khorne on Juggernaut Aspiring Deathbringer Bloodsecrator Slaughterpriest Slaughterpriest 10 Blood Warriors 10 Blood Warriors 20 Bloodreavers 20 Bloodreavers Gore Pilgrims It is not a bad base for a 2500 or 3000 point list either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanHammer-darren Posted May 15, 2017 Author Share Posted May 15, 2017 What's advantage of this over my list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Choombatta Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 2 hours ago, CanHammer-darren said: What's advantage of this over my list? The Slaughterpriests using Bronzed Flesh or Killing Frenzy, and with Gore Pilgrims, almost always going off. It also adds the extended range to the Bloodsecrator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jharen Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 The biggest advantage of Archaon is that he is a wizard. This is a Khorne's only option of pulling in a caster. Mystic Shield! Mystic Shield on top of Brazen Flesh, coupled with a Lord on Juggernauts command ability can lead to an Archaon that is damned near impossible to kill before he manages to wipe out every big threat on the table. Nothing also seems to indicate you can't stack the Lord on Juggernauts command ability, and so you should be fine to run multiples of them getting the Slayer of Kings up to just a silly chance of triggering its special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adasi Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 I'd have a play with the following: Allegiance: Blades of KhoneLeadersArchaon (700)Bloodsecrator (120)Bloodstoker (80)Slaughterpriest (100)- Bloodbathed AxeSlaughterpriest (100)- Bloodbathed AxeLord Of Khorne On Juggernaut (140)Battleline10 x Bloodreavers (70)- Reaver Blades5 x Blood Warriors (100)- Goreaxes30 x Bloodletters (300)Units5 x Wrathmongers (180)BattalionsGore Pilgrims (80)Total: 1970/2000 Archaon is a bullet magnet but with Bronzed Flesh and Mystic Shield he's tough as hell to take down. The Bloodletters also create havoc if they focus too much on Archaon. I find his command ability worthless tbh and wouldn't build around it. Khorne allegiance allows him to get loads of attacks, buffed as hell and then charge or move in the hero phase so yo can get more mileage out of him! The wrathmongers are there to add to his attacks again and also suicide against nasty things. Gore Pilgrims allow some ranged mortal wounds to help un-jam him if that's the case. Never going to be a super competetive list with archaon but this looks worthy of trying now i've made it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jharen Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Another thing to keep in mind about Archaon is that he has both the Daemon and Khorne keywords, so he can be summoned using the 8th blood tithe ability. Not much use in matched play but sure would be a nasty surprise to throw into an open play game if you suddenly felt like losing some friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanHammer-darren Posted May 15, 2017 Author Share Posted May 15, 2017 Archaeon blood stoker blood secrator aspiring deathbringer 2 lords on juggs 3x20 blood reavers hellcannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adasi Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 22 minutes ago, CanHammer-darren said: Archaeon blood stoker blood secrator aspiring deathbringer 2 lords on juggs 3x20 blood reavers hellcannon Thats a cool list - as much as i like the hellcannon, i'd be tempted to drop it for 30 bloodletters. The Blood Tithe really does help Archaon get more mileage and the Khorne artifacts make the Lords on Juggers pretty Baller! (thinking +2 damage!). Also think that 3 letters will do more damage than a hellcannon more reliably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greggers Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Iv been trying to build a similar force. The list Iv settled on so far is: Achaon Lord of Khorne on Juggernaut Bloodsecretor 30 Bloodletters 30 marauders (MoK) 10 chaos warriors (MoK) 3 varanguard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanHammer-darren Posted May 15, 2017 Author Share Posted May 15, 2017 I'm trying to work within the models I have. And I don't have bloodletters lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesper77 Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Archaon skaarac Bloodsecrator Khorgat khorgat khorgat khorgat khorgat Mauraders Mauraders Mauraders ----------------- Another version is changing Archaon 700p to Archaon 320p and add more Khorgats to a total of 8 and maybe change mauraders to reavers Realy cool debuffs to the bravery -4 just fpr the skaarac and Archaon then the khorgaths add -1 for every unit inside 12" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killax Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Filling up the body count for Archaon ideally is indeed done with Marauders and Bloodreavers. So yeah both really work in terms of that, Marauders have the advantage in survivability but the moment you toss a Bloodsecrator in there you can also be very happy with Bloodreavers. Realistically there are only so many paths to go for Archaon in 2K due to his costs. I still believe this list of yours will work out fine: Quote archaeon varanguard blood secrator blood stoker 2 aspiring deathbringers mighty lord of khorne 30 blood reavers 20 blood reavera 10 bloodreavers Personally, as above dropping the Varanguard allows you to include more bodies. Other than a Bloodsecrator (or two) and Khorne Lord on Juggernaut you don't really need more Heroes. Aspiring Deathbringers are fun but the backbone is Archaon + Units so going for simplicity will reward you. In addition not cranking up on the body count will decrease your option to hold objectives and you really don't need that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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