Let's chat : Slaanesh

[firebat]

@bomba776 Not when you don't say where it's from. Where in the GHB 2017 is that because I can't see it.

[bomba776]

Just now, firebat said:

@bomba776 Not when you don't say where it's from. Where in the GHB 2017 is that because I can't see it.

It's in page99 of Blades of Khorne book and page95 of Disciples of Tzeench book.

[Kramer]

44 minutes ago, bomba776 said:

a picture is better than a thousand words

Especially when it contains words 

[Myles]

Liking the new changes, here is the list I want to try out, any feedback?

1970/2000 Points - Grand Alliance of Chaos

Allegiance: Slaanesh
Battle Trait: Invaders
Command Trait: Allure of Slaanesh
Artefact: Icon of Infinite Excess

280pts - Keeper of Secrets
280pts - Keeper of Secrets
280pts - Keeper of Secrets
80pts - The Masque of Slaanesh

270pts - 30x Daemonettes
270pts - 30x Daemonettes
270pts - 30x Daemonettes
120pts - 5x Seekers of Slaanesh
120pts - 5x Seekers of Slaanesh

All in all pretty simple, the army is split into 3 groups of Daemonettes each screening their respective general who buffs them with double attacks. The seekers are there to hunt down spell casters, war machines, single models etc. 

My biggest concern is how weak the saves are for the army, but my hope is that there are simply too many targets to take down before I get into combat. Since the army is fast it should also be possible to reposition units if/when various Keeper of Secrets get picked off.

Any thoughts?

[Popisdead]

On 8/28/2017 at 1:45 PM, Kramer said:

The most valid reason to include any model. And looking really good. Like the blue

I concur with this.

 

If you did up a nice model make it work.  I own two Hellflayers and an Exalted with a BSB so in aos and 40k those are what I use.

 

Looks nice too.  I think the Exalted is a good choice personally.

[TalesOfSigmar]

Think I'm aiming to take Slaanesh to Facehammer at the end of the month but I'm struggling on fitting everything I want into the list.

 

Considering either using the Everchosen Allies for access to the Gaunt Summoner and Chaos Familiars or taking Archaon but at 700pts for him and then a Keeper of Secrets that basically 1,000pts on two heroes;

Allegiance: Slaanesh

Leaders
Gaunt Summoner and Chaos Familiars (120)
Keeper Of Secrets (280)
Daemon Prince Of Slaanesh (160)
Herald Of Slaanesh on Exalted Seeker Chariot (160)

Battleline
30 x Daemonettes Of Slaanesh (270)
30 x Daemonettes Of Slaanesh (270)
10 x Chaos Marauders (60)
- Axes
10 x Chaos Warriors (180)
- Hand Weapon & Shield
- Mark of Chaos: Slaanesh

Units
1 x Exalted Seeker Chariots Of Slaanesh (140)
1 x Exalted Seeker Chariots Of Slaanesh (140)
5 x Seekers Of Slaanesh (120)

Scenery
Balewind Vortex (100)

Total: 2000/2000
 

Or

 

Allegiance: Slaanesh

Leaders
Gaunt Summoner and Chaos Familiars (120)
Keeper Of Secrets (280)
Herald Of Slaanesh on Exalted Seeker Chariot (160)
The Masque Of Slaanesh (80)

Battleline
30 x Daemonettes Of Slaanesh (270)
30 x Daemonettes Of Slaanesh (270)
1 x Seeker Chariots Of Slaanesh (80)
- Slaanesh Battleline (Herald of Slaanesh on Exalted Seeker Chariot General)
10 x Chaos Marauders (60)
- Axes
- Mark of Chaos: Slaanesh

Units
10 x Chaos Chosen (280)
- Mark of Chaos: Slaanesh

Behemoths
Soul Grinder (280)
- Mark of Chaos: Slaanesh

Scenery
Balewind Vortex (100)

Total: 1980/2000

 

or

 

Allegiance: Slaanesh

Leaders
Archaon (700)
Herald Of Slaanesh on Exalted Seeker Chariot (160)
Keeper Of Secrets (280)
Herald Of Slaanesh on Exalted Seeker Chariot (160)

Battleline
30 x Daemonettes Of Slaanesh (270)
30 x Daemonettes Of Slaanesh (270)
1 x Seeker Chariots Of Slaanesh (80)
- Slaanesh Battleline (Herald of Slaanesh on Exalted Seeker Chariot General)
10 x Chaos Marauders (60)
- Axes
- Mark of Chaos: Slaanesh

Total: 1980/2000
 

[Popisdead]

What are you taking the Gaunt Summoner to do?  I'm fairly ignorant to the uses of him.

 

In your second list I would drop the chosen and take a second soul grinder.

[TalesOfSigmar]

1 hour ago, Popisdead said:

What are you taking the Gaunt Summoner to do?  I'm fairly ignorant to the uses of him.

 

In your second list I would drop the chosen and take a second soul grinder.

Gaunt summoner can cast two spells a turn. His own spell chooses a unit within 18 (36 on a balewind) roll a dice for every model in the unit. On a 4+ it's a mortal wound. I'm expecting mass blocks of bloodletters so it would be ideal to clear out waves of them at range. 

[Popisdead]

Ah okay thanks.

[Scotty_Fanboy]

So can a Slaanesh Lord on Daemonic Mount be the General of a Slaves to Darkness army? If yes how so? 

 

 

[Tizianolol]

I posted dat list until gh2 release 

Invaders .

keeper of sec 280

- general

-trait 5, artifact 3( it synergies with demon Prince)

lord of slaa on demo mount 140

demon prince 160

chaos sorcerer lord 160

2x10 warriors of slaanesh 360

30 demonettes 270

10 chaos Knights 320

6 fiends 280

tot 1970

my only doubt is about fiends!! Do you think is better 6 fiends or 10 chosen? 

[bomba776]

18 hours ago, Scotty_Fanboy said:

So can a Slaanesh Lord on Daemonic Mount be the General of a Slaves to Darkness army? If yes how so? 

 

 

Play grand alliance chaos with slaanesh allegiance. You can have anything with slaanesh keyword in your army.

[AverageBoss]

22 hours ago, Scotty_Fanboy said:

So can a Slaanesh Lord on Daemonic Mount be the General of a Slaves to Darkness army? If yes how so? 

 

 

A Chaos Lord on DM with MoS will still have the Slaves to Darkness keyword. So he could lead a StD army if that is the allegiance you want to go with.

[Johann]

What's your opinion on the big exalted one?

worth the 500 points or worth the 220 points difference?

differences:

+5wounds

+1 save

+1 Spell

+6" command ability

+fix 3 Damage on spell and sword

+2 attacks sword, 1 Attack claws

+++ awesome model (compared to the old normal one)

 

[MaxPounder]

15 minutes ago, Johann said:

What's your opinion on the big exalted one?

worth the 500 points or worth the 220 points difference?

differences:

+5wounds

+1 save

+1 Spell

+6" command ability

+fix 3 Damage on spell and sword

+2 attacks sword, 1 Attack claws

+++ awesome model (compared to the old normal one)

 

I've been umming and aahing about him/her. 

There's a lot of traits and artefacts that turn one into an absolute beast and gives you a real good beat stick. 

For example pair up the - 1 to hit trait with hellstriders and then it makes it very hard to deal with in combat. In addition to the artefact that makes a unit go last on a 3 plus.  Plus you can always make it pile in twice to give it a crazy 22 attacks. 

The issue is they will have a massive cross hair on them so you need to be able to build your list so you can take advantage of the fact people will be gunning for them. 

I really like one with the seekers trait as the +2 move and charge mean their average threat range is 25''.

Also I thought it was only 480 points?? Have they changed that? 

 

[Squirrelmaster]

Yeah they made her 500pts but buffed her warscroll a little so I'd say she's probably better value-for points than she used to be.

I plan on running one in 2000pts+ games, since I already have the model, but I don't play in a super-competitive area, so…

Maths/theoryhammer suggests to me that she's probably slightly worse value-for points than the regular Keeper, over-all, but there's advantages to sinking that many points into a single model with traits and artefacts that kinda balances out.

I think you'd want to support her with a Chaos Sorcerer Lord, since with Mystic Shield you can then get to a 2+ re-rollable save, which for me is one of her big selling points over a regular Keeper. Your main worry would be mortal wounds and high rend, so I think the self-healing trait might be better than the minus-to-hit. I'll probably go Pretenders rather than Seekers because I think the extra traits gonna be more handy than the +movement, she'll be turn 2 charging most games anyway imo. The strike last thing could work, but relies on your opponent having other things to fight with, I'm actually thinking the no-retreat option, especially since I plan to have her self-healing by killing stuff.

[TalesOfSigmar]

Giving my Slaanesh first run out tonight at the club against Sylvaneth, going to be running this mainly as I've not had the time to build more exalted chariots. Looking forward to seeing the speed of the army.

Heroes

Keeper Of Secrets (280)
- General
- Command Trait : Allure of Slaanesh
- Artefact : Breathtaker

Daemon Prince Of Slaanesh (160)

Herald Of Slaanesh on Exalted Seeker Chariot (160)

Herald Of Slaanesh on Seeker Chariot (100)

Gaunt Summoner and Chaos Familiars (120)

Chaos Sorcerer Lord (160)
- Runestaff
- Mark of Chaos : Slaanesh

Units

30 x Daemonettes Of Slaanesh (270)

30 x Daemonettes Of Slaanesh (270)

1 x Seeker Chariots Of Slaanesh (80)

5 x Seekers Of Slaanesh (120)

10 x Chaos Warriors (180)
-Hand Weapon & Shield
- Mark of Chaos : Slaanesh

[Johann]

On 7.9.2017 at 3:52 PM, TalesOfSigmar said:

Giving my Slaanesh first run out tonight at the club against Sylvaneth, going to be running this mainly as I've not had the time to build more exalted chariots. Looking forward to seeing the speed of the army.

Heroes

Keeper Of Secrets (280)
- General
- Command Trait : Allure of Slaanesh
- Artefact : Breathtaker

Daemon Prince Of Slaanesh (160)

Herald Of Slaanesh on Exalted Seeker Chariot (160)

Herald Of Slaanesh on Seeker Chariot (100)

Gaunt Summoner and Chaos Familiars (120)

Chaos Sorcerer Lord (160)
- Runestaff
- Mark of Chaos : Slaanesh

Units

30 x Daemonettes Of Slaanesh (270)

30 x Daemonettes Of Slaanesh (270)

1 x Seeker Chariots Of Slaanesh (80)

5 x Seekers Of Slaanesh (120)

10 x Chaos Warriors (180)
-Hand Weapon & Shield
- Mark of Chaos : Slaanesh

How was the performance?

i would go for more seekers, 5 die to easily, perhaps trade for the seeker chariots or one hero.

[Perturabo]

Heya guys

new to slaanesh here, can anyone one help me out in making a 1000 pts list?

I tried this list last night

Traits: seeker
-Keeper of secret
-Lord of slaanesh on boobsnake
-20 daemonettes
-5 hellstrider
-10 chosen

and they got steam rolled by my friend's dispossed army. 

That is my first game with slaanesh, so any idea on what to improve?

[Johann]

1 hour ago, Perturabo said:

Heya guys

new to slaanesh here, can anyone one help me out in making a 1000 pts list?

I tried this list last night

Traits: seeker
-Keeper of secret
-Lord of slaanesh on boobsnake
-20 daemonettes
-5 hellstrider
-10 chosen

and they got steam rolled by my friend's dispossed army. 

That is my first game with slaanesh, so any idea on what to improve?

Hi,

you have two heros with command abilities, you don't need that for 1k, i would trade the boobsnake for 10 more daemonettes to the unit  and one herald on foot. So you have more bodies. 

Then I think that chosens are too slow for the Slaanesh daemons, when they reach the enemy, most of your other squishy units are dead - most of the time you have to Attack due to the lack of shooting. I would change them for 30 more daemonettes or some seekers, which are good combination with the KoS.

If you prefer instead the mortal side: switch the KoS for sorcerer lord and add more mortal troops for the boobsnake command Ability. 

I also like some chariots (the exalted one), they never do any  Damage, but my opponents are always afraid of the mortal wounds on the 4+, so if they shoot the Chariot the KoS lives a little bit longer ?

 

And the most important advise: you are fast and squishy, do not try to table your opponent - Play the Objectives! You can reach them fast and switch to others in no time, this is the real advantage of slaanesh!

[TalesOfSigmar]

On 09/09/2017 at 3:51 PM, Johann said:

How was the performance?

i would go for more seekers, 5 die to easily, perhaps trade for the seeker chariots or one hero.

Played Duality of Death

Really enjoyed them, they're stupidly fast even being hindered by the Sylvaneth woods they got where they needed to go. My Daemonettes being able to run and charge managed to tie up both a Durthu and Treelord Ancient in combat for three turns, killing Durthu and pinning the Ancient in place away from the objective.

The Seekers combo-charged into Durthu with the Daemonettes and my opponent targetted the seekers straight away killing all five in one round of combat.

Keeper of Secrets with Breathtaker killed a full wound Treelord and then double piled into a branchwych and killed her.

The one thing I would say is how long it takes to roll dice on 30 Daemonettes, piling in twice and splitting attacks between two models, can see alot of games with this 'horde meta' dragging on with so many dice being rolled.

Got a major victory, extremely fun to use,

[Perturabo]

Heya guys

what do you think about this army lists that I made for 1000 pts.

any idea which is better?

[Khalistrhoka]

I'm just getting into slaanesh, and I was looking at this for a 1k list

allegience slaanesh

warband: pretenders

KoS 280

Relic: breathtaker

Command trait: invigorated by pain, Allure of slaanesh

30 daemonettes 270

10 daemonettes 100

10 seekers 200

exalted lawnmower 140

total 990

[Johann]

Hellstriders: Claw spears or Hellscourges?

How do you equip your models?

[Sigmalthus]

1 hour ago, Johann said:

Hellstriders: Claw spears or Hellscourges?

How do you equip your models?

I did all 10 of mine with the Claw Spears.  I figured with the rend and bonus +1 wound on the charge they were the better option.