Avvien Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 @GeneralZero Glottkin are 420, Pusgoyle Blightlords (kings on drones) are 220 for the minimum (They can be grouped 2-12) Bloab and his buddies all went up in points, and are now 260. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal4m4nd3r Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 I just use straight up pox walkers as Nurgle marked mauraders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralZero Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 29 minutes ago, Avvien said: @GeneralZero Glottkin are 420, Pusgoyle Blightlords (kings on drones) are 220 for the minimum (They can be grouped 2-12) Bloab and his buddies all went up in points, and are now 260. TY Avvien And how good are those 3 (expensive) units? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowgra Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 1 minute ago, GeneralZero said: TY Avvien And how good are those 3 (expensive) units? Glottkin not very good Bloab i think remains good (he got an extra spell) while orghotts and morbidex are kinda bad (orghotts is awful). Pusgoyles.... It depends. I think that goes to personal preference but have some uses for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralZero Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 1 minute ago, shadowgra said: Glottkin not very good Why? this is disapointing because I really love this mini Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowgra Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Well it is playable The fact is that he suffers from: -no 5+ save after save - 4+ save - 80 points more than guo - no command traits and artefacts and this is the real problem cause they are really strong. However he can make plaguebearers/marauders twice as tanky, twice as killy and draws attention. I mean you have to deal with him, otherwise he buffs the army really a lot. Be careful of positioning and shooting tho, he is quite easy to take down despite 18 wounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeled Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 I'm not sure how you can say the Glottkin isn't good. Maybe it's slightly overcosted...I don't have enough experience with it to really know. But it's a hard hitting tank/wizard with a great command ability and a spell that makes big tarpit units like plaguebearers almost impossible to kill, or even weaker units like plaguemonks into fairly decent tarpits. I think it would be fairly easy to build an effective list around the Glottkin if you wanted to do so. I can't say it will win tournaments, but it will definitely be competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeled Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, shadowgra said: - no command traits and artefacts and this is the real problem cause they are really strong. Ah, I think this is the most important thing. That makes sense. It's a big deal to not have a command trait. The artifact can be given to someone else, though, so it's not a big loss. The other things are definitely relevant but not enough to make him bad. It might be nice if GW gave his warscroll a onceover, just to put him on the same level as the GUO in terms of toughness. A save of 3+ would go a long way. I think if GeneralZero loves the model he should use it. Part of Warhammer is using the models you love. He's not going to get his butt handed to him using the Glottkin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayniac Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 I had really hoped Orghotts got updates, he's my favorite Maggoth Lord but is also the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percivael Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Well the Glottkin is a 18 wound Rotbringers Sorcerer with two spells, who can get a 5++ from the Harbinger as general. Given the importance of magic with the Maggotkin book that’s got to count for something. They also have a shooting attack as good as a short range cannon. I don’t know, he’s certainly not optimal but he’s still pretty good if you’re a fan of the miniature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Schmidt Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 14 minutes ago, shadowgra said: Well it is playable The fact is that he suffers from: -no 5+ save after save - 4+ save - 80 points more than guo - no command traits and artefacts and this is the real problem cause they are really strong. However he can make plaguebearers/marauders twice as tanky, twice as killy and draws attention. I mean you have to deal with him, otherwise he buffs the army really a lot. Be careful of positioning and shooting tho, he is quite easy to take down despite 18 wounds I'd try Glottkin if I were into Special Characters, but I think his big weakness is what you are calling out here. He isn't very resilient (relatively speaking) and his abilities are those which really grab your opponent's attention, which means he'll get burned down fast. If you have the type of army that can benefit from that sort of expensive ablative armor than cool, but currently Nurgle doesn't have the types of units to benefit from that, imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Schmidt Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 10 minutes ago, Yeled said: Ah, I think this is the most important thing. That makes sense. It's a big deal to not have a command trait. The artifact can be given to someone else, though, so it's not a big loss. The other things are definitely relevant but not enough to make him bad. I think if GeneralZero loves the model he should use it. Part of Warhammer is using the models you love. He's not going to get his butt handed to him using the Glottkin. Could he not use a different model as the general? Like Lord of Plagues or whatever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal4m4nd3r Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 I know I didn't win, but I came in 8th in battle points at nova using a rotbringers list that included glotkin with harbinger as general and a huge brick of mauraders. Its funny in the last two pages of this thread. Two of those three units were called bad or not worth taking lol. They are good if you use him right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowgra Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Keep in mind tho that playing him with the harbinger wastes his command ability. Imho pales agaisnt guo and harbinger. However it surely got better with trees, new spells and such. But for give you an example: a megaboss killed my full wound glottkin in one turn after i failed to kill him with +1 A and 2 wounds done already. He rolled good and i rolled pretty bad but still... That 140 point hero took away a 420 point investment. If you run him please be careful. His positioning is unforgiving and give him mystic shield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal4m4nd3r Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 47 minutes ago, shadowgra said: Keep in mind tho that playing him with the harbinger wastes his command ability. Imho pales agaisnt guo and harbinger. However it surely got better with trees, new spells and such. But for give you an example: a megaboss killed my full wound glottkin in one turn after i failed to kill him with +1 A and 2 wounds done already. He rolled good and i rolled pretty bad but still... That 140 point hero took away a 420 point investment. If you run him please be careful. His positioning is unforgiving and give him mystic shield. That's not rolling good..that's just legendary rolling and epic fail rolling by you. Your ork anecdote reminded me the time my glotkin vomitted on gordak and finished him off by rolling double 6's for the damage. That is not going to happen all the time! So...yeah anecdotes are just that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowgra Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Well in defence of my poor dices this megaboss was battlebrewed (pre17) and buffed by chanter. Sooooo.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robotnik_taco Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Have people considering using the blades spell given a second look at plague monks. On the charge, with paired blades, a unit of 20 gets 60 swings, which with the reroll is about 15-16 MW on average. That's a stardrake down for 140 points! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaedus Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Does anyone know an affordable model to use as plague toads? I want a bunch of them but on Forge World they're £50 for just 3! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowgra Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Kaedus said: Does anyone know an affordable model to use as plague toads? I want a bunch of them but on Forge World they're £50 for just 3! https://minimonsters.eu/en_US/p/Plague-Toads/119 ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaedus Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 23 minutes ago, shadowgra said: https://minimonsters.eu/en_US/p/Plague-Toads/119 ^^ Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infernalslayer Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 1 hour ago, shadowgra said: https://minimonsters.eu/en_US/p/Plague-Toads/119 ^^ I have been considering these due to the lower price, and to have more sculpt variety since i already have 3 forgeworld plague toads. Does anyone have a photo of these for scale comparison? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Schmidt Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Does anyone have an idea when Maggotkin of Nurgle comes out? I know its on preorder now, but not sure when its officially released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaux Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Release day is this saturday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Schmidt Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 28 minutes ago, Vaux said: Release day is this saturday I wish I could like this numerous times! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darksider Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 The new Guo is a bit stronger in my opinion as the Glottkin, but i like that the Glottkin can buff all your guys with the +1 Attack. Also his spell is pretty good. BTW would be cool to play Archaon, Glottkin and a Harbinger in one army, should be a lot stronger now XD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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