rokapoke Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Soulsmith said: It depends whether they're using the old English variant, but ae is ash, and pronounced as the short a. Alf? Melmac faction confirmed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roberto Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Just now, rokapoke said: Alf? Melmac faction confirmed! beat me to it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turragor Posted March 27, 2017 Author Share Posted March 27, 2017 54 minutes ago, roberto said: beat me to it.... Do you mean to tell me that... if we zoom out on that latest rumour engine... it's... it's... a Dark Alf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roberto Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Just now, Turragor said: Do you mean to tell me that... if we zoom out on that latest rumour engine... it's... it's... a Dark Alf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warhammernerd Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 The worst, and I do mean the WORST is using the word rape to describe win / loss. About as juvenile and misogynistic as it comes. Nasty.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleboda Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Elf, dwarf, orc, grot, aelf, stuntie, oomie ... whatevs. I just think of them all as zombies just waitin' to be born. Btw, if you want some supersilly examples of GW goofy naming, just go back to Damnagar's Black Crusade, the Fighting ******, the Impies and Lankies, "Catachans gunning down gooks" (caption on old Citadel Journal photo), the Slann lobotomized humans, pygmies, etc. They used to delight in their "cleverness. " To say nothing of the absolutely stunningly bad macaroni necklace in the 6th ed TK book or the lizzy guys like TicTacToe. Ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roberto Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 10 minutes ago, warhammernerd said: The worst, and I do mean the WORST is using the word rape to describe win / loss. About as juvenile and misogynistic as it comes. Nasty. Rape is not gender-specific. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_of_males I think it's odd that some who play a game that glorifies violent acts can be so sensitive. In other news, "Blood for the Blood God, skulls for the throne of Khorne". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galas Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 No! Don't beging with that! Everyone has his oppinion, but thats offtopic! And one that can destroy us all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulsmith Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 There's a difference between clearly fantastical violence and very real violence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roberto Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 56 minutes ago, Soulsmith said: There's a difference between clearly fantastical violence and very real violence? Yup. And saying I've "murdered" an opponent is clearly different than actually murdering him. Whether someone takes offense at my casual reference to a heinous act is beyond my control. Although strange, given wargaming is entertainment derived from casual references to violence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tzaangor Management Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 The difference, in my opinion, is that rape is an under-reported crime that has become taboo even to report and we should avoid anything that normalises or glorified it. Rape and murder are not comparable in this case. For example, if the object of the game was actually to rape your opponent's miniatures with your own, would you still be interested in playing? Further, while rape can be experienced by both genders, it is disproportionately suffered by women. In a hobby that has traditionally struggled to attract female hobbyists, or even to sculpt female miniatures, anything that provides an additional barrier to entry should be discouraged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galas Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 I think the biggest problem is the lack of empathy. I have seen groups of players in their bubble with the "Omg its just joking!" mentality that are just the same 5 guys during years. The best place to play in my city its a club where the owner its a 50 years old father of two little girls, with a height of 1,90m, that in the past was a profesional canoist. The enviroment its strictly PEGI+3 and its the only place in the city where are actually more female gamers than male. Its just a wonderful and friendly space, and I have seen the owner throw (in a quasi literal meaning) people away because they were donkey caves. Humour its contextual, in your house with your friends, just do what you want, but in public spaces we should all be polite, and just avoid things that can offend other people, because I asume that when you say a joke its to make people laugh. If someone its offended and you just don't care, maybe your original intention was not to make the people around you happier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turragor Posted March 28, 2017 Author Share Posted March 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Galas said: I think the biggest problem is the lack of empathy. I have seen groups of players in their bubble with the "Omg its just joking!" mentality that are just the same 5 guys during years. The best place to play in my city its a club where the owner its a 50 years old father of two little girls, with a height of 1,90m, that in the past was a profesional canoist. The enviroment its strictly PEGI+3 and its the only place in the city where are actually more female gamers than male. Its just a wonderful and friendly space, and I have seen the owner throw (in a quasi literal meaning) people away because they were donkey caves. Humour its contextual, in your house with your friends, just do what you want, but in public spaces we should all be polite, and just avoid things that can offend other people, because I asume that when you say a joke its to make people laugh. If someone its offended and you just don't care, maybe your original intention was not to make the people around you happier. Are you a herb because damn you're sage... I'll get my coat. (I mean your comment is very wise) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaldoBeardo Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 There's a difference between clearly fantastical violence and very real violence?The reason I find historical wargaming - particularly WW2 - a bit, oh, odd?I like my genocide to remain firmly in the land of make-believe, ta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roberto Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 1 hour ago, BaldoBeardo said: The reason I find historical wargaming - particularly WW2 - a bit, oh, odd? I like my genocide to remain firmly in the land of make-believe, ta. I recall an event some time ago...Historicon, maybe? There was an individual who take offense at a German player's use of swastikas in his army. I suppose there would be some who would be offended by a Confederate flag in a civil war army. These ideas change with the prevailing culture, I suppose. Real war is heinous. There are no good guys. I much prefer little plastic soldiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warhammernerd Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 On 3/27/2017 at 10:48 PM, roberto said: Rape is not gender-specific. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_of_males I think it's odd that some who play a game that glorifies violent acts can be so sensitive. In other news, "Blood for the Blood God, skulls for the throne of Khorne". Your response pretty much sums up what's wrong with much of the male orientated gaming culture. Absolutely beyond the pale. Yes your right, men get raped. And that's exactly what all the people are implying when they talk about it... not As I say, just find its generally a bit gross. And I'm fairly certain anyone who throws it around casually as gamer talk, would do so much less in the presence of women or known rape victims. Much the same as whenever a **moron only uses g a y as a derogatory term when they are comfortable they aren't in the presence of someone who is. jeeZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayniac Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 My pet peeve is anyone putting forth PC/SJW attitudes in this game (or anything else really). This isn't a safe space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamR Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 46 minutes ago, warhammernerd said: ** moron But that's an acceptable term? Pot/kettle etc ++ Mod Edit ++ Amended Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turragor Posted March 30, 2017 Author Share Posted March 30, 2017 I think this thread has reached a point of no return! Could probably be locked before things get too heated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roberto Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 48 minutes ago, warhammernerd said: Your response pretty much sums up what's wrong with much of the male orientated gaming culture. Absolutely beyond the pale. Yes your right, men get raped. And that's exactly what all the people are implying when they talk about it... not As I say, just find its generally a bit gross. And I'm fairly certain anyone who throws it around casually as gamer talk, would do so much less in the presence of women or known rape victims. Much the same as whenever a ** moron only uses g a y as a derogatory term when they are comfortable they aren't in the presence of someone who is. jeeZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Taylor Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 ++ Mod Hat On ++ Really not happy with the way this thread has gone folks. This forum is for us all to discuss this game we all enjoy and the pretty models we use when playing it. I'm locking this topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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