Mengel Miniatures Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 The release of the free downloadable PDF of the Unofficial Tomb Kings Battletome is almost here! What are you most looking forward too? Will you be waging war amongst the dunes of the Endless Deserts? (PS. this is probably one of my favorite miniature photography images from the book. Who can guess the inspiration for it?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nico Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Hobby Hero! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradifer Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Seems pretty cool. I like when the community creates things like this (I have 2 different books of Tyranid Warscrolls that work within AOS). How do players generally react to these kinds of things? Are they ok with playing as long as you let them know well ahead of time, or do they whine about potential balance the whole time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamose Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Can't wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davariel Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Incredibly well painted and converted models, stunningly realistic scenery and skilled photography to boot? Oh, and something about a battletome with rules and fluff and everything?!? You're making the rest of us look bad! Seriously though I can't wait to see what you've done with this - it looks absolutely incredible. Well done good sir! P.S. the inspiration for the photo wouldn't be the epic art from ET: Nagash where Settra fights Nagash, would it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 15 hours ago, Bradifer said: How do players generally react to these kinds of things? Are they ok with playing as long as you let them know well ahead of time, or do they whine about potential balance the whole time? It really depends on who and where you're playing. Obviously it's verboten at tournaments but in a friendly game where you let them know ahead of time it should be fine. I wouldn't turn up on the day and spent it on someone you've organised a game with, but the novelty will likely be fun and if you thrash your opponent they can just bleat about it being imbalanced and save their pride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nico Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 It's always open for a TO to include the Battletome as an appendix to the pack for a given event and allow them to be used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Lyons Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 8 minutes ago, Nico said: It's always open for a TO to include the Battletome as an appendix to the pack for a given event and allow them to be used. This is especially true if things in it aren't blatantly overpowered and are fairly well balanced. We've worked hard to make sure options were competitive but not broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mengel Miniatures Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 4 hours ago, Davariel said: P.S. the inspiration for the photo wouldn't be the epic art from ET: Nagash where Settra fights Nagash, would it? Yupp! I worked on this photo for the better part of a day and nothing was working right before I decided to try out the darker green tinge on one side and the golden yellow on the other, like that End Times pic. 2 hours ago, CoffeeGrunt said: It really depends on who and where you're playing. Obviously it's verboten at tournaments but in a friendly game where you let them know ahead of time it should be fine. I wouldn't turn up on the day and spent it on someone you've organised a game with, but the novelty will likely be fun and if you thrash your opponent they can just bleat about it being imbalanced and save their pride. And be sure to let me know about imbalances! Being a PDF book there's no reason I can't release a version 2.0 down the line based on player feedback. 1 hour ago, Thomas Lyons said: This is especially true if things in it aren't blatantly overpowered and are fairly well balanced. We've worked hard to make sure options were competitive but not broken. Yupp Many thanks to @Thomas Lyons for keeping my wilder ideas in check too. We went over all of the additional units and battalions many times and readjusted them to make sure their power level and points cost were fairly balanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleboda Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 If only this were coming from GW. It's amazing you are doing this, but around me it's almost certain to never see a game. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mengel Miniatures Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 12 minutes ago, Sleboda said: If only this were coming from GW. It's amazing you are doing this, but around me it's almost certain to never see a game. ? Well, at the very least you can use the book to reference the GW rules. All of the official GW scrolls are in there, including the 2 battalions, with the updated GW points. Just don't use the additional rules and scrolls. It'll still be a much nicer presentation then the blank white scrolls available now. I'll be using it at Adepticon minus the additional rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Lyons Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 22 minutes ago, Sleboda said: If only this were coming from GW. It's amazing you are doing this, but around me it's almost certain to never see a game. ? There will likely be events here in the States that will adopt the new content from the book. This is all I have to say about this at this point... ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 Haha, we have a guy who occasionally uses that Cosmic Horrors book, which surprised us with how well it fits in with AoS in a weird way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mengel Miniatures Posted March 16, 2017 Author Share Posted March 16, 2017 Last night I showed off the Battletome on Warhammer Weekly with @Vincent Venturella and @Thomas Lyons! You can find the episode Here. So today I'm showing off the cover for everyone who missed it! This amazing artwork was done by Kenneth Erickson (@Kenquistador) who you can follow on Twitter and Instagram under the same handle. The full Battletome will be available to download for free next Wednesday, the 22nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmurayiWestgate Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 I loved the Warhammer Weekly "preview" show. Well done, man! i just wish there would be more Battle Plans in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerrorPenguin Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 HYPE This looks cool. I hope some tournaments will adopt it Or events, lets call them events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mengel Miniatures Posted March 17, 2017 Author Share Posted March 17, 2017 6 hours ago, AmurayiWestgate said: I loved the Warhammer Weekly "preview" show. Well done, man! i just wish there would be more Battle Plans in it. I wanted to put more Battleplans in there too, but it just became an issue of time and effort. If I had another battleplan in there I would need more artwork, which was the most time intensive part of this book and would have delayed it even further. I'm also restricted by what armies I own and have painted for photographs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mengel Miniatures Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 On 3/17/2017 at 6:13 PM, Auticus said: Also I will be carrying this over in my public events as well and allowing its use. Awesome! Let me know how it goes, I will be gathering feedback on this for the inevitable version 2.0 release down the line. This Wednesday everyone! Dust off those khopeshes and chariots, the Kings are back in town! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmurayiWestgate Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Can you mark the warscrolls you added with a little icon: One for "100% official" and one for "House-ruled" in case you made new ones or changed existing ones? I'd like to dumb my old Tomb Kings PDF printout in favor in yours but would like to be able to identify on a tournament what i actually unmodified content. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mengel Miniatures Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 All of the unofficial Battalions and Warscrolls say unofficial at the top like so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 What software do you use for making these, by the way? The style of everything is on-point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veillotron Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 @Mengel Miniatures I was able to view last week's Warhammer Weekly video yesterday and was completely blown away by what you and your team have accomplished, what a great labour of love!!! I am very much looking forward to downloading the book in two days. Just wanted to say a BIG THANK YOU for sharing with the Community; it is folks like you that make this place so amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mengel Miniatures Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 19 minutes ago, CoffeeGrunt said: What software do you use for making these, by the way? The style of everything is on-point. Photoshop mostly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleboda Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 I would love for your work to have legs and be at least passively "blessed" by the new GW, but I'm concerned. The old GW would be all over you with legal telling you to stop. Have you had and contact from them at all? If so, has it been to encourage you or get you to stop? If they aren't looking to shut you down, it will make it a lot easier to dive in, build new units, and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galas Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Things like this is why I like this hobby (Wargames in general) The ammount of work and profesionality that fans put in their work its astonishing. Every hobby has their fanworks, but the Wargames hobby, maybe by its own nature (Expensive hobby, time consuming, etc...) has probably one of the best fan-created content. This its on level with a proper official release from a big multinational. (And in many cases, even surpases it) The maquetation, the presentation, oh... ohm... If you are going to present to GW, at least let us download it first if they ask you to shut it down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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