Sneak Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 At first I wanted to make an army with the vanguard Angelos conclave and the justicar conclave but not enfought points at 2k. I opted for the Aether strike force backed withe palladors and hunters. CC most welcome! Allegiance: OrderLeadersLord Aquilor (200)Knight Venator (120)Knight Azyros (80)Battleline5 x Judicators (160)- Skybolt Bows- Stormcast Eternals Battleline5 x Judicators (160)- Skybolt Bows- Stormcast Eternals Battleline5 x Vanguard-Hunters (140)- Stormcast Eternals Battleline (Lord Aquilor General)5 x Vanguard-Hunters (140)- Stormcast Eternals Battleline (Lord Aquilor General)Units3 x Aetherwings (60)3 x Aetherwings (60)3 x Vanguard-Raptors with Longstrike Crossbows (180)3 x Vanguard-Raptors with Longstrike Crossbows (180)3 x Vanguard-Palladors (220)3 x Vanguard-Palladors (220)BattalionsAetherstrike Force (80)Total: 2000/2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turragor Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 I like this but I would almost redistribute to get advantage of the aetherstrike rules. The ONE unit firing extra should be at least 6 longstrikes in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Misfire Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 46 minutes ago, Turragor said: I like this but I would almost redistribute to get advantage of the aetherstrike rules. The ONE unit firing extra should be at least 12 longstrikes in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turragor Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Just now, Double Misfire said: I like this but I would almost redistribute to get advantage of the aetherstrike rules. The ONE unit firing extra should be at least 24 longstrikes in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Misfire Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Just now, Turragor said: I like this but I would almost redistribute to get advantage of the aetherstrike rules. The ONE unit firing extra should be at least 24 aetherwings in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turragor Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Much as I want to continue this, getting sillier and sillier, I'll instead give the poor OP some proper feedback! Allegiance: Stormcast EternalsLeaders Lord Aquilor (200) Knight Azyros (80) Knight Venator (120)Battleline 5 x Judicators (160)- Skybolt Bows- Stormcast Eternals Battleline 5 x Judicators (160)- Skybolt Bows- Stormcast Eternals Battleline 5 x Vanguard-Hunters (140)- Stormcast Eternals Battleline (Lord Aquilor General)Units 6 x Aetherwings (120) 3 x Aetherwings (60) 12 x Vanguard-Raptors with Longstrike Crossbows (720) 3 x Vanguard-Raptors with Hurricane Crossbows (160)Battalions Aetherstrike Force (80)Total: 2000/2000 The only thing I am wary of with these lists is that their entire function comes from the azyros and aetherwings. Without those you can't do anything. And aethers have no save and aren't high wound models! So 24 aetherwings is maybe VIABLE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Misfire Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 There's not a lot that can be done to keep the aetherwings alive outside of the knowledge that you'll be able to fire 12 Longstrikes at whatever kills them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 I agree with the feedback posted earlier. Any time you get an extra shot I think you should be trying to figure out what benefits the most from that shot. Longstrikes are far and away the best unit to give an extra shot to, so much so that it makes almost think these bonuses were a bit poorly thought out in that it seems to pidgeonhole you to a certain unit. I actually do like the hurricanes, but when you can basically double a unit's value, do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneak Posted March 4, 2017 Author Share Posted March 4, 2017 Ok I'll do one unit of 6 and maybe one of 3 for hurricane. I think the hurricane guys have their uses. Also I have to run palladors because well the models are great! Don't like the raptors enfough to buy x15 i guess my biggest issue is fitting my current collection with the vanguard guys so I started exploring all vanguard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turragor Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Sneak said: Also I have to run palladors because well the models are great! I am 100% behind this reasoning for army lists. It's better than any amount of dry theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Bryan Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 I was thinking about this army too but with the following list it's very simple pick on unit and destroy it with shooting. LeadersKnight Venator (120)Knight Azyros (80)Battleline5 x Judicators (160)- Skybolt Bows- Stormcast Eternals Battleline5 x Judicators (160)- Skybolt Bows- Stormcast Eternals Battleline5 x Judicators (160)- Skybolt Bows- Stormcast Eternals BattlelineUnits3 x Aetherwings (60)3 x Aetherwings (60)12 x Vanguard-Raptors with Longstrike Crossbows (720)6 x Vanguard-Raptors with Longstrike Crossbows (360)BattalionsAetherstrike Force (80)Total: 1960/2000 Maybe even a gryph hound with the extra forty points..... I think it would be brutal but a fast moving army would destroy it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aezeal Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Need meatshields.. most armies can reach them turn 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immersturm Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 I'd stick the Palladors into one unit. 6 means better flaning synergy with the Aquilor, less units to deploy and better when it comes to choosing units in the assault phase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Burgess Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 I've written a very similar list, however I made sure I got the Relictor in there for the bless weapons prayer on the big unit of Raptors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Burgess Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Something like this: Allegiance: OrderLeadersKnight Venator (120)Knight Azyros (80)- Artefact: Relic Blade- Mystic Light: Lantern of the TempestKnight Azyros (80)- Mystic Light: Lantern of the TempestLord Relictor (80)- Artefact: Mirrorshield Battleline15 x Judicators (480)- Skybolt Bows- 3x Shockbolt Bow- Stormcast Eternals BattlelineUnits6 x Aetherwings (120)15 x Vanguard-Raptors with Longstrike Crossbows (900)1 x Gryph-Hound (40)BattalionsAetherstrike Force (80)Total: 1980/2000 The raptors would be in a 3 and 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turragor Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 You've taken 4 artefacts (doubled up on 1 hero) instead of 2. Maybe I've been thinking about this battalion the wrong way. It FEELS like you should max the extra hero phase bonus but that quickly sucks allll the points up. It's a cheap battalion that's easy countered in many ways if the enemy is focusing on it. What if they're not focusing on it? So it's not the biggest threat, just chipping away with a small unit extra each turn or on loss of another unit... Allegiance: Stormcast EternalsLeaders Lord Aquilor (200)- General- Trait: Shielded by Faith - Stormcast Eternals- Artefact: Armour of Destiny - Gryph-Charger Trait: Keen-clawed Lord Relictor (80)- Prayer: Lightning Chariot Knight Venator (120)- Artefact: Luckstone Knight Azyros (80)Battleline 5 x Judicators (160)- Skybolt Bows- Stormcast Eternals Battleline 5 x Judicators (160)- Skybolt Bows- Stormcast Eternals Battleline 10 x Liberators (200)- WarhammersUnits 3 x Vanguard-Raptors with Longstrike Crossbows (180) 3 x Vanguard-Raptors with Longstrike Crossbows (180) 3 x Aetherwings (60) 3 x Aetherwings (60) 3 x Prosecutors with Stormcall Javelins (80) 3 x Prosecutors with Stormcall Javelins (80) 1 x Gryph-Hound (40) 2 x Fulminators (240)Battalions Aetherstrike Force (80)Total: 2000/2000 PS Im totally unsure about the Aquilor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneak Posted March 5, 2017 Author Share Posted March 5, 2017 So my initial plan was to make a list mixing in the new units but now it's turned into packing as many raptors as you can. Not crazy about that style play. The new units are very awkward to mix with the existing stuff imho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornes_Berzerker Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 I think you'd be fine with a unit of 6 long strike and a unit of 3 hurricane. I only say a unit of 6 long strike because I'm honestly not sold on the it in smaller numbers(or in general really) but they will benefit m out from this battalion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BURF1 Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 On 3/4/2017 at 5:18 AM, Turragor said: Much as I want to continue this, getting sillier and sillier, I'll instead give the poor OP some proper feedback! Allegiance: Stormcast EternalsLeaders Lord Aquilor (200) Knight Azyros (80) Knight Venator (120)Battleline 5 x Judicators (160)- Skybolt Bows- Stormcast Eternals Battleline 5 x Judicators (160)- Skybolt Bows- Stormcast Eternals Battleline 5 x Vanguard-Hunters (140)- Stormcast Eternals Battleline (Lord Aquilor General)Units 6 x Aetherwings (120) 3 x Aetherwings (60) 12 x Vanguard-Raptors with Longstrike Crossbows (720) 3 x Vanguard-Raptors with Hurricane Crossbows (160)Battalions Aetherstrike Force (80)Total: 2000/2000 The only thing I am wary of with these lists is that their entire function comes from the azyros and aetherwings. Without those you can't do anything. And aethers have no save and aren't high wound models! So 24 aetherwings is maybe VIABLE Don't take aquilor, doesn't help enough, you need a vexilor and relictor. Vexilor pops the azyros into enemy lines in the first hero phase, relictor pops the 12 raptors into shooting range, keeping their 30" also in the hero phase. Yes the failure chance sucks but it's a 3+ and can be mitigated by careful placement and moving the raptors into position to counter if the azyros dies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneak Posted March 6, 2017 Author Share Posted March 6, 2017 Here is my new vanguard list. Very awkward point and battalion points with this new book. Unsure of the artifacts and if I want to make up the other 20 points might play the formation for the palladors. Allegiance: OrderLeadersLord Aquilor (200)- GeneralKnight Venator (120)Knight Azyros (80)Battleline5 x Vanguard-Hunters (140)- Stormcast Eternals Battleline (Lord Aquilor General)5 x Vanguard-Hunters (140)- Stormcast Eternals Battleline (Lord Aquilor General)5 x Vanguard-Hunters (140)- Stormcast Eternals Battleline (Lord Aquilor General)Units6 x Vanguard-Palladors (440)3 x Aetherwings (60)3 x Aetherwings (60)3 x Aetherwings (60)3 x Vanguard-Raptors with Longstrike Crossbows (180)3 x Vanguard-Raptors with Hurricane Crossbows (160)3 x Vanguard-Raptors with Hurricane Crossbows (160)BattalionsVanguard Justicar Conclave (60)Total: 2000/2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immersturm Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Stick the Longstrikes into one unit. They will benefit more from the Aquilor Command Trait and the Battalion trait. Given that you can freely distribute shooting, bigger units instead of multiple small ones is generally better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turragor Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 18 minutes ago, Immersturm said: Stick the Longstrikes into one unit. They will benefit more from the Aquilor Command Trait and the Battalion trait. Given that you can freely distribute shooting, bigger units instead of multiple small ones is generally better. But it's 3 units in the battalion no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immersturm Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 No, two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turragor Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 24 minutes ago, Immersturm said: No, two. Vanguard Justicar Conclave (60) It's 3. I think you're thinking of aether strike from topic title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immersturm Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 3 hours ago, Turragor said: Vanguard Justicar Conclave (60) It's 3. I think you're thinking of aether strike from topic title. It was a test .... Yeah, mixed it up. Carry on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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