Westtk2 Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Does this list have enough meat for a fyreslayers army? It's a relatively low model count to make up for the big magma lizards. All buff heroes to support my core units of hearthguard and berzerkers. List Summary Allegiance: OrderLeaders Auric Runefather on Magmadroth (260) Auric Runesmiter on Magmadroth (200)- Latch axe Auric Runesmiter on Magmadroth (200)- Latch axe Auric Runesmiter on Magmadroth (200)- Latch axe Battlesmith (80)- None Battlesmith (80)- NoneBattleline 15 x Auric Hearthguard (240)- Magmapike- Fyreslayer Battleline (Runemaster General) 10 x Hearthguard Berzerkers (160)- Throwing Axes & Broadaxe- Fyreslayer Battleline (Runefather General) 30 x Vulkite Berzerkers (360)- Handaxe & Slingshield 10 x Hearthguard Berzerkers (160)- Throwing Axes & Broadaxe- Fyreslayer Battleline (Runefather General) 5 x Vulkite Berzerkers (60)- Handaxe & SlingshieldUnitsTotal: 2000/2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 My Gut feeling is that taking 4 leaves you without enough bodies. Going to try 3 shortly but not sure you get any real mileage out of a 3rd Smiter mounted on one. Do think Father and 2 Smithers could work well tho ☺ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thediceabide Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 I'd be tempted to lose a little bit of your Battleline in favor of upgrading a Runesmiter or two to Runesons, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requizen Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 You don't seem to have a way to remove elite units or monsters other than throwing blobs at them and hoping for the best (which is alright but not great). The thing with Monster spam lists is that the monsters people spam are the ones that are undercosted and are powerful enough to be feared in multiple situations. I don't know how Magmadroths rank now with the points reduction, but I do know that they're not particularly scary against anything other than blobs and slightly larger semi-elite units like Swordmasters. The most you can say is that they're hard to kill because it's 12 wounds that can't Battleshock off, but isn't that the same as having a massive Fyreslayer blob with the 4+ ward save, or potentially worse? Test it out, but I don't think that they're really the spam type of monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inq_enzo Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Loose a few of the magmadroths. They die faster than you might think (and that is their job). They are best against units, the 10 sword masters mentioned before would likely not survive against it but the reason is as it causes mortal wounds when it bleeds on the units within 3" (including your own) many of its attacks also require you to roll less than the number of models in the unit you are attacking. Not hard to roll less than 10 on the sword masters or maybe 40 rats in hats, but 1 hero or 3 trolls or units of 5 that have taken losses make these attacks hard or impassible to use. I use 1 with a runeson on it and I throw it out at my opponent or put t on an objective and hope it kills its points worth before it dies, normally it does not. But it does buy me time to position other things. Replace 1 with 1 or 2 Grimwrath Berzerkers or something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gauche Posted March 9, 2017 Share Posted March 9, 2017 Been playing against a fair bit of Fyreslayers with the new points, I really think 2 Magmadroths is the way to go. They aren't very resilient and function best as counter-punch and buff bots. A lot of my local players seem to use them like BCR and it hasn't been paying off much. Fyreslayers footmen are extremely resilient, let your opponent break themselves on that and then plug the gaps where needed. 3-4 also gives you Scenario problems and really opens you up to shooting/Mortal Wound armies. It would probably do well against a very melee heavy army but those aren't in much popularity at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westtk2 Posted March 10, 2017 Author Share Posted March 10, 2017 Here is a modified rooster based on the feedback I've received. Allegiance: OrderLeadersAuric Runefather on Magmadroth (260)Auric Runesmiter on Magmadroth (200)- Latch axeBattlesmith (80)- NoneBattlesmith (80)- NoneGrimwrath Berzerker (80)- NoneBattleline10 x Hearthguard Berzerkers (160)- Throwing Axes & Broadaxe10 x Hearthguard Berzerkers (160)- Throwing Axes & Broadaxe30 x Vulkite Berzerkers (360)- Handaxe & Slingshield10 x Auric Hearthguard (160)- Magmapike10 x Auric Hearthguard (160)- Magmapike10 x Auric Hearthguard (160)- MagmapikeBattalionsForge Brethren (80)Total: 1940/2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thediceabide Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 @Veterannoob is really the only person I'd take feedback from personally, haha. I don't know anyone else that has 100+ games of AOS with the same army under their belt, let alone pure Fyreslayers. That said, at the very least, drop the Latch Axe on the Runesmiter and take the key instead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterannoob Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 20" wound buff FTW! 104 games games solo FYreslayers (15 w/new pts). Should be game 105 by Monday. 3 game event coming up next weekend so that's even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterannoob Posted March 10, 2017 Share Posted March 10, 2017 10 hours ago, Westtk2 said: Here is a modified rooster based on the feedback I've received. Allegiance: OrderLeadersAuric Runefather on Magmadroth (260)Auric Runesmiter on Magmadroth (200)- Latch axeBattlesmith (80)- NoneBattlesmith (80)- NoneGrimwrath Berzerker (80)- NoneBattleline10 x Hearthguard Berzerkers (160)- Throwing Axes & Broadaxe10 x Hearthguard Berzerkers (160)- Throwing Axes & Broadaxe30 x Vulkite Berzerkers (360)- Handaxe & Slingshield10 x Auric Hearthguard (160)- Magmapike10 x Auric Hearthguard (160)- Magmapike10 x Auric Hearthguard (160)- MagmapikeBattalionsForge Brethren (80)Total: 1940/2000 in this case with no tunneling I'd consider merging into 20 hearthguard but looks like you need them as battleline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westtk2 Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 Do you run multiple lists or with one optimized list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veterannoob Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Westtk2 said: Do you run multiple lists or with one optimized list? Are you asking me or someone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralKarma Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 On 3/10/2017 at 6:09 AM, Westtk2 said: Here is a modified rooster based on the feedback I've received. Allegiance: OrderLeadersAuric Runefather on Magmadroth (260)Auric Runesmiter on Magmadroth (200)- Latch axeBattlesmith (80)- NoneBattlesmith (80)- NoneGrimwrath Berzerker (80)- NoneBattleline10 x Hearthguard Berzerkers (160)- Throwing Axes & Broadaxe10 x Hearthguard Berzerkers (160)- Throwing Axes & Broadaxe30 x Vulkite Berzerkers (360)- Handaxe & Slingshield10 x Auric Hearthguard (160)- Magmapike10 x Auric Hearthguard (160)- Magmapike10 x Auric Hearthguard (160)- MagmapikeBattalionsForge Brethren (80)Total: 1940/2000 At the new point costs, Vulkite berzerkers are 60 points. I'd bump that unit up to 35 and you'll be at an even 2000. I'd combine at least on the the units of Auric Hearthguard, maybe all 3, and give them throwing axes! Otherwise list too looks good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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