Mr. White Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 I have all the tzeentchy models from Silver Tower. I have quick start AoS rules. Do I need the Tzeentch Battletome or Grand Alliance Book? The pinned message isn't clear in the difference to this noob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith01 Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Always get the newer product. So you need the Battletome. It gives you up to date Warscolls and Battalions plus the new Battletomes are the only places to find your army specific abilities. The grand alliance books were good around the time they came out and if your army doesn't have it's own Battletome yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praecautus Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 The grand alliance books are a compendium of all the warscrolls for units in an alliance. These are all freely available online so you are paying for a nice printed format. They are not essential. The battletomes are faction specific, they contain background, battleplans. Warscrolls and the important battalions for your faction. These are essential if you want to get the most from your faction, but you can still play without. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rokapoke Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 The Grand Alliance books do have some battalions that are not available for free. However, with any faction that has had a book published since the Sylvaneth book, you get allegiance bonuses and whatnot that are frequently better (and more faction-specific) than the ones in the General's Handbook. If you're looking at Tzeench, get the Battletome -- you'll get your money's worth for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie Grimwood Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 I don't think the Grand Alliance book will have the Silver Tower stuff in it, get the Tzeentch Battletome which does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie Grimwood Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 I don't think the Grand Alliance book will have the Silver Tower stuff in it, get the Tzeentch Battletome which does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praecautus Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 47 minutes ago, Ollie Grimwood said: I don't think the Grand Alliance book will have the Silver Tower stuff in it, get the Tzeentch Battletome which does. Good point, anything released after the handbook came out won't be included i.e. A lot or tzeentch models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDuff Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Anything before the Disciples of Tzeentch book came out was just stop gap to play with the ST models at a warband level, but not enough to build an army. The DoT book is the only way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oppenheimer Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 The grand alliance books are becoming more and more useless. I've been putting a strikethrough on the pages that are out of date in each book. The savage orcs and beastclaw raiders have rendered about half of the destruction one useless now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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