Carnelian Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 So i am limiting myself to a single boxed game over Christmas as I am still working my way through a painting backlog and I get a bit de-motivated when that builds up (this year finished death and stormcast 1k and hoping to finish Tyranids by end of year but still have wood elves and deathwatch overkill to paint up!) I cant choose between Silver Tower and Bloodbowl so it would be great to hear from people who have played both. My questions: 1. are people still playing silver tower? I.e. does it have longevity? (as i know that bloodbowl has longevity) How long does a bloodbowl game last on average and is it good fun to play against people who dont normally play warhammer and who have no interest in list building? (or is list building integral to enjoying it long term?) Pros for silver tower: Most beautiful models Models useable in AoS and vice versa Easy for non hobbyists to join a single game Pros for bloodbowl: Can play it on Christmas afternoon with my brother or girlfriend with minimal amount of fuss - easy to build and coloured plastics Smaller number of figures to build and paint and so can avoid backlog 2 player game is easier to organise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottle Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 I voted blood bowl for you, mainly because of how few miniatures you get in comparison to Silver Tower (which is basically like starting another army), and also because the rumour mill has hinted at a second Warhammer Quest against Death adversaries in the future and when/if that comes out, you'll be kicking yourself if you are still painting up Tzeentch figures. If you want to get a feel for Blood Bowl, the iPad App is great. I've been playing it all week in anticipation for the release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulsmith Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 I went for Blood Bowl, because I think is a better game for non hobbyists to try out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobgoblinclub Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Definitely Blood Bowl. Silver Tower is fun, it has replay value and beautiful minis. You'll no doubt go back to it every so often. Blood Bowl on the other hand is the sort of thing that could easily become a regular alternative AoSing. If a few of you start a league it can be massively addictive. I'd go as far as to say it's the tightest rule set GW have ever produced. It's not the most balanced, but it's a beautiful thing in terms of mechanics. I suppose Silver Tower has the fact that you can use the minis in AoS in its favour, but you could be playing Blood Bowl for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjarni St. Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 If you want it as a boxed game primarily then probably Blood Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobgoblinclub Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 7 minutes ago, Bjarni St. said: If you want it as a boxed game primarily then probably Blood Bowl. I'd argue the opposite. Silver Tower works as a stand alone game. I'd imagine there'll be loads of people who don't add to it. Most Blood Bowl players will no doubt go beyond the box and play other people with other teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDuff Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Silver Tower if you invite others over for gaming. Blood Bowl if you have a group who all engage actively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrion Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Silver Tower is fine if you need a pick up game for a large group as a one off but Blood Bowl is the better game and has far more longevity. It offers a real tactical challenge which you are unlikely to get from Silver Tower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarf Giant Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Blood Bowl for me. Lots of fun and very addictive. A game can easily last an hour and a half, sometimes a bit less, sometimes a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCharisma Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 I've voted Silver Towers because it's an easy pick up game that anyone can play. If you don't have a Blood Bowl league, you might get tired of playing Humans vs. Orcs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Taylor Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Blood Bowl, Blood Bowl, Blood Bowl!!!!! Silver Tower is fun but Blood Bowl is Blood Bowl! It's got a big following so it's easy to get games in against other coaches plus I'm basically playing Blood Bowl all this week as off to Bugmans Full Beard so difficult for me to think about something else PS - Blood Bowl!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaldoBeardo Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 It's simultaneously the most serious and the most silly game GW do.You can really cut loose with background and imagery, silly jokes etc. - but when you're in last turn and 1-0 down, pulling off that chain of 4+ rolls to pull the draw is one of the best feelings in the world. Right up there with a 3-pint pee. [emoji1] Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuneBrush Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 If you've a model backlog I think I agree with the general concensus that Blood Bowl won't overload you too much, plus as you say it's one you can play with non-gamers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnelian Posted November 21, 2016 Author Share Posted November 21, 2016 thanks for the awesome response everyone! Im still so torn but leaning towards blood-bowl with the anticipation of painting it up quickly and also finishing overkill n then being able to justify silver tower! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Age of The Erstwood Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I've been playing through Silver Tower with some friends who have little to no interest in the hobby and they have gotten really into it, so much so that it's now then suggesting we play again. We've had four sessions so far, lasting 2-3 hours each time and we're only half way through, perhaps less. So there is definitely longevity. Especially with the new hero cards. That said though, and despite the fact that all the random events mean you'll probably never play the same game twice, I imagine you might not go through the whole process more then a couple of times. Playing in a Blood Bowl league in the Birmingham store when I was younger, on the other hand, is probably some of my fondest hobbyist memories. You'll definitely come back to Blood Bowl a lot more, especially if you can convince your non hobby friends to join. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaldoBeardo Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Only proviso on Bloodbowl is that if you're playing a proper league, keeping people invested can be a chore - the teams that are flying high play game after game after game, but it just takes one match where your team gets mangled and coaches start to drop out.Silver Tower definitely has replay value, but longer term... well, Bloodbowl has been my favourite game for 30 years, even if I don't play for long periods.Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobgoblinclub Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 2 hours ago, BaldoBeardo said: Only proviso on Bloodbowl is that if you're playing a proper league, keeping people invested can be a chore - the teams that are flying high play game after game after game, but it just takes one match where your team gets mangled and coaches start to drop out. Silver Tower definitely has replay value, but longer term... well, Bloodbowl has been my favourite game for 30 years, even if I don't play for long periods. Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk We've found this. It's an effort to get everyone's results in (I'm as bad as the rest). I'd hoped the app might cater for this. They should have included a function for players to enter results, injuries etc into a shared league table. Sadly, there's nothing like that on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bottle Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 In this day and age, a what's app group should be a pretty handy tool for managing a league. Still, nothing more fun that putting together a weekly newsletter for it in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobgoblinclub Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 48 minutes ago, bottle said: In this day and age, a what's app group should be a pretty handy tool for managing a league. Still, nothing more fun that putting together a weekly newsletter for it in my opinion A newsletter is a must. Whatsapp would also be an easy way to distribute it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaldoBeardo Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 So hard to get decent consistent artwork for a newsletter any more though. I miss the good ole' B&W Carl Critchlow BB illustrations. They were ACE.Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnelian Posted November 23, 2016 Author Share Posted November 23, 2016 This has become such a difficult decision. i definitely need both. Must paint faster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDuff Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Both is a good answer. More is always more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnelian Posted November 23, 2016 Author Share Posted November 23, 2016 So theres 51 models to paint in sikver tower compared to 24 for bloodbowl but i'd probably get the skaven straight away and that brings it up to 36. There is a lot of v small silver tower models (familiars and grot scutlings) but then again a lot of large ones or models that require decent paint jobs whereas I can get away with much less for bloodbowl. I had a look at bloodbowl yesterday in darksphere and I was surprised by how large the models are! They look quite easy to paint. I think it is going to be both eventually - bb for xmas, paint deathwatch overkill and then silver tower. now i just need to decide on a paint scheme for my genestealer cult! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaldoBeardo Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 My only niggle with Bloodbowl right now is I'd like to see that they're intending on releasing the ball-slot bases separately. I know that they're bog standard 32's in practice, but OCD gonna OCD...Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnelian Posted November 23, 2016 Author Share Posted November 23, 2016 Well i found out today the HATE club in london is starting a new bloodbowl league in the new year which means i'll definitely have people to play against. Bloodbowl it is! (First that is) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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