ElectricPaladin Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 What do you think... can a Stormcast Eternal be made into a vampire? Can a dead vampire be stolen from Nagash and reforged into a Stormcast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinros Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Well no because vampires belong to nagash mannfred makes the point that he is no hurry to die because he will go right back into nagash's arms. A stormcast being converted into a vampire? Well haven't seen it happen but considering they "die" in the process the said stormcast will just get zapped back to sigmar. Their souls can't even get eaten by a dread abyssal they just kinda vomit it out and it zaps back to sigmar. In terms of strength a vampire is physically stronger well according to Manny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobgoblinclub Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 If Sigmar is taking souls that Nagash would otherwise claim, doesn't it stand to reason that Nagash could someday find a means to take them back? What if Stormcast willingly went to Nagash and gave themselves up to him? I'm still banking on this so I can convert up a Death Stormcast list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricPaladin Posted November 17, 2016 Author Share Posted November 17, 2016 45 minutes ago, shinros said: A stormcast being converted into a vampire? Well haven't seen it happen but considering they "die" in the process the said stormcast will just get zapped back to sigmar. Though, technically according to the rules, I can use Neffy or a coven throne to turn Stormcast heroes into vampires as easily as any other kind of hero... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoe Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 In RGW: Sands of Blood, Nagash notices the souls that usually go to him aren't returning and senses Sigmar's reforging. Along with Torglug being turned from a Champion of Nurgle into a Knight Venator, I would say it's possible to go from Stormcast to... even a chaos spawn and then be reforged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dez Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 This is what I've read too, Nagash is super pissed at Sigmar for stealing souls belonging to him, and is holding some Stormcast in contempt. This is actually the whole idea for a Stormcast army I'm working on and will unveil the test model soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobgoblinclub Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 31 minutes ago, Dez said: This is what I've read too, Nagash is super pissed at Sigmar for stealing souls belonging to him, and is holding some Stormcast in contempt. This is actually the whole idea for a Stormcast army I'm working on and will unveil the test model soon You're doing Stormcast loyal to Nagash? Beat me to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dez Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Well...Stormcast from Hyish. My idea is to make them kind of like the Night Lords of the Mortal Realms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkiham Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 2 hours ago, hobgoblinclub said: If Sigmar is taking souls that Nagash would otherwise claim, doesn't it stand to reason that Nagash could someday find a means to take them back? What if Stormcast willingly went to Nagash and gave themselves up to him? I'm still banking on this so I can convert up a Death Stormcast list. Nagash is taking them back, every time a stormcast dies they loose some of their humanity. they're turning into drones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCharisma Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Do It! Seriously. Do it, and post pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobgoblinclub Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 2 hours ago, Arkiham said: Nagash is taking them back, every time a stormcast dies they loose some of their humanity. they're turning into drones They lose a bit but they're still themselves. I'm wondering if, after many reforgings, and faced with losing the last of their humanity, even the Stormcast might just be tempted to prolong their 'lives' by crossing over to Nagash if he is able to promise they'll retain a shred of themselves for eternity. And they'll look stupidly cool. I'm thinking about having the prime and the knight-azyros floating on spirit hosts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoe Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 2 hours ago, Arkiham said: Nagash is taking them back, every time a stormcast dies they loose some of their humanity. they're turning into drones Drones, maybe - more like lesser Daemons of Order. : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmimzie Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 To my understanding the forcing binding stormcast can be prevent if the storm cast is killed with certain magical items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneMonk Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 My interpretation of the reading is that the sigmarite power would prevent the turning, but if coven throne can do it then yes anything is possible in AoS. Maybe nagash can trap them, and control them?? but maybe they are something other than a vampyre - more like nighthaunt Dorghar can consume the stormcast and keep them from returning to the anvil's of Azyr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobgoblinclub Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 33 minutes ago, StoneMonk said: but maybe they are something other than a vampyre - more like nighthaunt. That's what I'm picturing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 I love that the AoS background is open enough that pretty much any cool conversion, themed army etc. can have a plausible backstory that doesn't break the canon, no matter how weird and wonderful. Bend it maybe, but not break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie Grimwood Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 It seemed to me that that in the BL books they were implying that the named Relictor in the starter set was something Undeady before being reforged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricPaladin Posted November 18, 2016 Author Share Posted November 18, 2016 27 minutes ago, Ollie Grimwood said: It seemed to me that that in the BL books they were implying that the named Relictor in the starter set was something Undeady before being reforged The one who gets called an "amethyst prince?" Maybe. I just listened to "The Lords of Helstone," and I'm pretty sure that you can be a very important person in Shyish and still be mortal, so we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvDJ Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 7 minutes ago, ElectricPaladin said: The one who gets called an "amethyst prince?" Maybe. I just listened to "The Lords of Helstone," and I'm pretty sure that you can be a very important person in Shyish and still be mortal, so we'll see. Slightly off topic i know, but I think this opens up the exciting prospect of a 'mortal' death army, death worshipers/cultists...including death stormcast!! oooh!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricPaladin Posted November 18, 2016 Author Share Posted November 18, 2016 2 hours ago, EvDJ said: Slightly off topic i know, but I think this opens up the exciting prospect of a 'mortal' death army, death worshipers/cultists...including death stormcast!! oooh!! I really doubt we'll see "death Stormcast," but I do hope we see more about Shyish's mortals. The books make them out to be much more interesting and better organized than the remnants in other Realms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinros Posted November 18, 2016 Share Posted November 18, 2016 On 11/17/2016 at 7:43 PM, Shoe said: In RGW: Sands of Blood, Nagash notices the souls that usually go to him aren't returning and senses Sigmar's reforging. Along with Torglug being turned from a Champion of Nurgle into a Knight Venator, I would say it's possible to go from Stormcast to... even a chaos spawn and then be reforged. That happened because he was killed by the celestant prime those killed by him with ghal maraz their souls are taken to be "judged" by sigmar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricPaladin Posted November 18, 2016 Author Share Posted November 18, 2016 So now I'm thinking about a plot where an agent of Sigmar allows himself to be turned into a vampire in order to gather intelligence about what Nagash is planning, with a prearranged time at which he will be in the right place at the right time to be killed by ghal maraz so Sigmar can get ahold of him for a debrief before his reforging... . That would be fun, especially if the newly turned vampire starts developing relationships with the vampires and Death-worshiping mortals around him and starts to wonder if he really wants to go back to his old boss... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoe Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 On 11/18/2016 at 2:46 PM, shinros said: That happened because he was killed by the celestant prime those killed by him with ghal maraz their souls are taken to be "judged" by sigmar. Oh! Interesting. I took it to be the humans taken by Sigmar for reforging, becoming immortal. I didn't realize Sands of Blood occurs after QFGM. Thanks for pointing that out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Misfire Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Vampire -> Stormcast '-> Vampire -> Stormcast -> Dreaded 13th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricPaladin Posted December 1, 2016 Author Share Posted December 1, 2016 3 hours ago, Double Misfire said: Vampire -> Stormcast '-> Vampire -> Stormcast -> Dreaded 13th? -> Vampire -> Stormcast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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