Broken Netcode Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 @MikeGreen is basically my muse now. Following his second thread in the similar manner, what are the best units in Chaos? These threads are not made for making super lists, but for making notes for newer players what units will do especially well in their brand new army. So lets start with the Bloodsecrator. Possible number 1 spot already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Chaos Knights look great on paper but haven't used/fought them yet. Any good? Is Be'lakor good in AoS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Maybe not the absolut best unit but something to compare against. The Jabberslythe for 140pt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireymonkeyboy Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Well, I've only used knights with the Khorne keyword, so take this with a grain of synergy. 8 Khorne knights with a variety of Khorne buffs have so far killed in 2 turns max an exalted chariot of Slannesh, a Stonehorne (? the one that halves all damage taken), a Chaos War Mammoth, a Keeper of Secrets, and pretty much anything else I throw them at. They also survive pretty much everything. Never had the unit wiped. It's 400 points of happy. FMB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie Grimwood Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Chaos Knights are Killy if you take Glaives and get a charge in with them. Otherwise they don't chuck out too much damage. However with 3 wounds 4+ save and 5+ against mortal wounds they are good and Tanky. If you Khorne mark them their damage will go up as they'll synergise with the Bloodsecrator which is of course No 1 on the list for Khorne armies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireymonkeyboy Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 16 minutes ago, Ollie Grimwood said: Chaos Knights are Killy if you take Glaives and get a charge in with them. Otherwise they don't chuck out too much damage. However with 3 wounds 4+ save and 5+ against mortal wounds they are good and Tanky. If you Khorne mark them their damage will go up as they'll synergise with the Bloodsecrator which is of course No 1 on the list for Khorne armies. +1 A from the Bloodsecrator, +1 A if a hero kills a model in the Bloodmarked warband, +1 to W from a Juggerlord, reroll 1s to wound from Bloodmarked, reroll hits from a warshrine. It's possible to get a unit that, on the charge, does 4 attacks each at 4+ reroll miss / 2+ reroll 1s, -1 rend, 2 damage each. Like I said, (and I roll without the warshrine), kill pretty much anything in 2 turns, often 1. Fun. FMB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobgoblinclub Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 2 hours ago, Andreas said: Maybe not the absolut best unit but something to compare against. The Jabberslythe for 140pt! I've not heard of anyone taking a jabberslythe. Now you mention it, it actually looks pretty nasty. Spurting Bile Blood should do on average 10 mortal wounds before it dies and the Aura of Madness could really mess the enemy up if you throw the jabberslythe into a clump of his units. Interesting call! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolomedes Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 The Jabberslyth is good, but the problem is if too many people say how good it is it will become much less effective. Don't give away your tactics and most powerful units just for forum kudos! Your most powerful unit is the element of surprise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iradekhorne Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 For me, 10- 15 bloodwarriors are insane ******. No rend yes, but comoneeee +1 atack of bloodsecrator, +1 atack in Bloodmarked, possible +1 atack for the command trait, wrathmongers, or skullgrinder buff. You have apotential 5 atacks per guy, if the enemy kill someone... booom 5 more, you only need chargue the most nasty enemy unit, like necrosphynx or some nasty heros, 15 guys do.... Booom! 75 attacks (5 with bloodglaive) and 5 more per guy killed... And with gore fists mortal wounds!!! they have really a lot of sinergy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 7 hours ago, hobgoblinclub said: I've not heard of anyone taking a jabberslythe. Now you mention it, it actually looks pretty nasty. Spurting Bile Blood should do on average 10 mortal wounds before it dies and the Aura of Madness could really mess the enemy up if you throw the jabberslythe into a clump of his units. Interesting call! I have both played with a Jabberslythe and against it and you cant really ignore it, it's a pest for the opponent and it's really good at messing with the opponents strongest hero/unit. Another plus is that it can fly. The counter is of course shooting but for 140pt and 10 wounds the opponent needs to waste some shots to kill it. I have been thinking of running four of them (if I can bother painting three more). The aura stack, could be interesting. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolden Spoons Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Skarbrand. The end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Netcode Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 What about legacy archaon? Lower points but the possible synergies are insane as well as a potential 2+ or 1+ save in cover. Also Wulfric for those turn 2 40 marauder bombs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGreen Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 When you decide about their order please post the results in : http://www.tga.community/forums/topic/5293-the-best-and-the-worst-in-alliances/ It would be great if sb can take care of Order and Destruction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tasman Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Great thread here.... Archie the lesser^^ 320 pts of goodness. Take him with demon battleline units for the very real possibility of recovering d6 per turn. SKARBRAND. Yes. Thanquol and boneripper. Warp lightening cannons. Lots of skaven can be added in here. A lot of these units will be heavily dependent on buffs/synergies achieved thru interaction with other units, but that's all in the flavor of AoS anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGreen Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 21 minutes ago, Tasman said: A lot of these units will be heavily dependent on buffs/synergies achieved thru interaction with other units, but that's all in the flavor of AoS anyway. We have tried to take it into consideration while doing lists for Death Alliance. Eg. skeletons in block of 40 with spears are very powerful and most probably deserve a place in top5. But the thread is aimed mostly at new players. Then a newbie may read that skellies are on 5th place and glue just 10 of them with spears (totally uselles in this configuration). So skeletons finally did not make it at all to be on the list, despite being great in a specific configuration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Netcode Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 So far the list is as follows; Bloodsecrator Legacy Archaon Chaos knights Jabberslythe Blood warriors skarbrand Wulfric Stormfiends with warp lightning cannons Wrathmongers What order should they be in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGreen Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 18 minutes ago, Broken Netcode said: @MikeGreen I also play Order so I can easily start a thread there. That is great. Unfortunatelly I'm not competent enough to make a list for Destruction. Any volunteers ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Netcode Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 4 minutes ago, MikeGreen said: That is great. Unfortunatelly I'm not competent enough to make a list for Destruction. Any volunteers ? Will start both of the threads now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caffran101 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 What about wrathmongers? Throw them into the enemies killiest unit and watch him have to retreat it out of battle. Has anyone actually used these? Or are they a bit too gimmicky? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowgra Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Imho best units are: Bloodsecretor, harbinger of decay, skarbrand, stormfiends, jabberslythe, belakor, bile trolls, skin wolves, ogroid taumathurge, chaos war mammoth, wrathmongers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Netcode Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 I agree with wrathmongers actually. They are so good at killing and buffing for just 180 points which seems very balanced. Will add to the list now. If other people agree with the harbinger I will also add it, same story with the rest of the units you said @shadowgra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie Grimwood Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 16 hours ago, Fireymonkeyboy said: +1 A from the Bloodsecrator, +1 A if a hero kills a model in the Bloodmarked warband, +1 to W from a Juggerlord, reroll 1s to wound from Bloodmarked, reroll hits from a warshrine. It's possible to get a unit that, on the charge, does 4 attacks each at 4+ reroll miss / 2+ reroll 1s, -1 rend, 2 damage each. Like I said, (and I roll without the warshrine), kill pretty much anything in 2 turns, often 1. Fun. FMB Isn't that more of a case that Khorne armies synergise very well rather than Chaos Knights possessing those abilities themselves. They are very effective on the charge buffed or not. I not sure I'd have them in a top unit list, they're a bit one trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Netcode Posted November 14, 2016 Author Share Posted November 14, 2016 I tend to find Skullcrushers to be better than knights. Having a chance of mortal wounds, better mounts, khorne synergy as standard and are 40 points cheaper than knights. Replace Knights with Skullcrushers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie Grimwood Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 I'm all for Skulchrushers but that might be personal bias Stormfiends should probably be in the list they've got that nasty power gaming tag for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foolsama Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 I can't *believe* no on'es mentioned Sayl yet. So. 'Sayl the Faithless'. +1 for Bloodsecrator (affectionately misnamed the Blood Decorator thanks to Autocorrect) +1 For Archie the Lesser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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