MikeGreen Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 I wonder what is the least playable in Death Alliance ? Can you name some underpeforming units/solos ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 Black Coach. Does nothing at all unless you have a billion Wizards around it and a lot of luck. Second place goes to the Corpse Cart if you have no/few zombies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nico Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 For 900 points, Nagash at the 2k level. Konrad is awful. The Black Coach is a strong candidate. Black Knights are pretty poor - unlike Battleline Skeleton Horsemen and battleline Skeleton Chariots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 I like Black Knights though. Extra Damage on the Charge, +1 Save against Rend -, they're pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGreen Posted November 10, 2016 Author Share Posted November 10, 2016 18 minutes ago, CoffeeGrunt said: I like Black Knights though. Extra Damage on the Charge, +1 Save against Rend -, they're pretty good. oK, so they won't be in the "worst" category. Just "poor" 6th place that does not count So right now we have in "the worst": 1. Black Coach 2. Konrad Carstein 3. ? 4. ? 5. ? And notable mentions as "too situational/not universal": Corpse cart, Nagash. Or should I put corpse cart on the list 4th or 5th place ? I mean it supports zombies , and they are not very powerful ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 This list will be highly subjective as it depends on playstyle. I mean, you write off Black Knights, but my unit has genuinely won me games due to the makeup of my army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nico Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 Fellbats are pretty terrible also. Cairn Wraiths are terrible. The Tomb King on the Chariot is terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGreen Posted November 10, 2016 Author Share Posted November 10, 2016 4 minutes ago, Nico said: Fellbats are pretty terrible also. Cairn Wraiths are terrible. The Tomb King on the Chariot is terrible. Please go on ! Looks like we are just getting started Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kozokus Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 The vargheist are so much overpriced. But you cannot beat fellbats. Noone can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 Yeah Fellbats seem like cheap trash. Cairn Wraiths are okay in small games, and they're cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGreen Posted November 10, 2016 Author Share Posted November 10, 2016 You all agree that bats suck so maybe Konrad to 3rd place ? 1. Black Coach 2. Fellbats 3. Konrad Carstein 4. ? 5. ? I would say that Vargheists are on the same level as crypt flayers - I mean their shooting is awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 Konrad is a Compendium model, not in GA: Death though, so I don't know if he counts? His rules look pretty meh though, I agree on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGreen Posted November 10, 2016 Author Share Posted November 10, 2016 10 minutes ago, CoffeeGrunt said: Konrad is a Compendium model, not in GA: Death though, so I don't know if he counts? His rules look pretty meh though, I agree on that. He is in the warscroll builder, and he has a mini. Two of you agreed upon he discredits his honorable family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmimzie Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 carin wraiths work well on the pieces of power scenario when summoend to jack an objective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discoking Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 In no particular order: Black Coach Black Knights Skeletons Zombies Corpse Cart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nico Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 Quote carin wraiths work well on the pieces of power scenario when summoend to jack an objective. This is true, but they are hardly earth shattering - even with a 4+ rend immune, they only have 4 wounds as I recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solaris Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 Skeletons are fantastic, definitely not bottom 5. Tomb Swarms and Sepulchral Stalkers are pretty ******, Tomb King on Chariot too, Bone Giants are very meh for 200 points. Ushabti are VERY situational. Black Knights are pretty bad unless you have a Deathrattle allegiance, in which case they are good. Otherwise you only take them for the Legion of Death. Cairn Wraiths are pretty abysmal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nico Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 Bone Giants are awful - just pay for the Necrosphinx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGreen Posted November 10, 2016 Author Share Posted November 10, 2016 Sorry Coffee but it looks like Black Knights and Cairn Wraiths do deserve to be on the list of c.rap , mentioned too often. Thank you all for your suggestions, I think it is enough to sum it up. In order from the worst to bad ready to be edited. 1. Black Coach 2. Fellbats 3. Bone Giant 4. Tom King on chariot 5. Konrad Carstein 6. Cairn Wraiths 7. Black Knights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 IMO it's pretty stifling to newcomers to be presented with a list of models the internet has decided aren't good, but then it's your thread so fair dues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerrorPenguin Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 Black knights are great. Charge them into your opponents cavalry / heroes turn one and watch them slowly grind or get ground down. People expect them to be fast attack but they're a quick tar pit. Force your opponent to retreat his khorgorath from them turn 3 because he really needs it and thought they would be dead by now. Then charge it with something else. They're about board control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoffeeGrunt Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 Retreat to taunt your opponent. They'll regen ready for the next charge, and they'll have to divert resources to get rid of them. More than they can normally afford. Plus with Settra you can give them a 24" move with Fly, haha. Captured a few objectives my opponent thought were safe with that one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kozokus Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 Kraggi is possible the weakest model In the game. Côme on? 1mov? Ok it still has his usés à 20 point héro that Will always run. And seise places of power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGreen Posted November 10, 2016 Author Share Posted November 10, 2016 What is his full name? Can not find a hero with 1 move . Btw which warscrolls are more actual? Those in 30page vc compendium or as I guess separate pdfs that you can download from product pages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kozokus Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 I cheated . kraggi is àn order dwarf hero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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