Arzalyn Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 51 minutes ago, zombiepiratexxx said: Yes, when talking about Grand Strategy they explicitly stated they needed to keep the Gutrippas alive to score it. I don't doubt that it's a demo game to show off the contents of Dominion, however, they could have easily just called it Narrative or Open Play rather than Matched Play and not worried about the fact people might notice the Orruk list was not actually legal in that kind of game. Yeah, its probably just to show off the dominion content. My fear is that if they are using our full rules from the upcoming tome, hobgrtoz will probably not be a battleline option. It would mean that neither Grinning blades sub allegiance or in the Kruleboyz allegiance. The Skulbugz sub allegiance would be the only one that hasn't been ruled out. If there is no way to make the hobgrotz count as battleline and if we don't get a way to use the Sloggoth as battleline, 2 of our 3 sub allegiances will be forced to always include 3 Gutrippaz for matched play. I really hope we get another battleline option other the Boltboyz, which are locked into a specific sub allegiance alredy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.T.Bahnum Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Arzalyn said: Yeah, its probably just to show off the dominion content. My fear is that if they are using our full rules from the upcoming tome, hobgrtoz will probably not be a battleline option. It would mean that neither Grinning blades sub allegiance or in the Kruleboyz allegiance. The Skulbugz sub allegiance would be the only one that hasn't been ruled out. If there is no way to make the hobgrotz count as battleline and if we don't get a way to use the Sloggoth as battleline, 2 of our 3 sub allegiances will be forced to always include 3 Gutrippaz for matched play. I really hope we get another battleline option other the Boltboyz, which are locked into a specific sub allegiance alredy. I'm still going out on a limb with this but the breakaboss is often seen with them. THIS IS SPECULATION! But we could also have a general in the orruks that give them battleline. Doesn't have to be a hobgrot general. And with breakaboss being the only breaks unit (I'm counting both snatchaboss and skumdrekk for snatcha) he's kinda odd man out it's not impossible. And since it sounds like a dominion box matched game they wouldn't have included him. Just food for thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arzalyn Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 25 minutes ago, P.T.Bahnum said: I'm still going out on a limb with this but the breakaboss is often seen with them. THIS IS SPECULATION! But we could also have a general in the orruks that give them battleline. Doesn't have to be a hobgrot general. And with breakaboss being the only breaks unit (I'm counting both snatchaboss and skumdrekk for snatcha) he's kinda odd man out it's not impossible. And since it sounds like a dominion box matched game they wouldn't have included him. Just food for thought. Totally forgot that the general could open some battleline options as well! None of the heroes seens to make much sense with the hobgrtoz by what we know so far, but maybe there is some lore we didn't saw yet to explain it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.T.Bahnum Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 45 minutes ago, Arzalyn said: Totally forgot that the general could open some battleline options as well! None of the heroes seens to make much sense with the hobgrtoz by what we know so far, but maybe there is some lore we didn't saw yet to explain it. I mean hobgoblins from fantasy were mercinaries. Literally anyone could do it just cause "lore reasons" and it's make perfect sense. I'm only leaning towards the breakaboss cause it's book art literally has the hobgrot banner in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maogrim Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 It's understandable that they would want Gutrippaz as an integral part in basically all Kruleboyz lists, since they are the 'quintessential' Kuruleboyz with Scareshields, but having just a singular battleline option outside of Big Yellers feels very restrictive. They could still go the Lumineth route and say that for every unit Gutrippaz you my declare one unit of Hobgrotz or a Sloggoth as battleline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maephi Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 2 hours ago, Maogrim said: It's understandable that they would want Gutrippaz as an integral part in basically all Kruleboyz lists, since they are the 'quintessential' Kuruleboyz with Scareshields, but having just a singular battleline option outside of Big Yellers feels very restrictive. They could still go the Lumineth route and say that for every unit Gutrippaz you my declare one unit of Hobgrotz or a Sloggoth as battleline. Since Dominion comes with 2 Battleline for SCE and only 1 for Kruelboyz I'd bet this is pretty close to on the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.T.Bahnum Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 9 hours ago, Maephi said: Since Dominion comes with 2 Battleline for SCE and only 1 for Kruelboyz I'd bet this is pretty close to on the money. Sadly they did the same thing for slaanesh/daughters box so its possible the box uses the big yeller battleline much like how slaanesh could use godseekers to reach theirs. I have my doubts we are going to be like lumineth as theirs is meant to be a focus based on the military strategy. With us looking more like gorilla tactics I don't think it'll be battleline unlocking battleline. My money's on bosses unlocking battleline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolty Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 (edited) plz delete this post Edited August 27, 2021 by Bolty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arzalyn Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Bolty said: Hi everyone, Sorry if it has already been shared but I think I saw one unit for the kruleboyz that was never shared elsewhere. I saw it in the White dwarf 467, in the battle report. The name is something like "Kill from afar" (transalated from french) and seems to be some kind catapult. Did someone saw this before ? To me its look like a Boltboyz unit behind a terrain piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolty Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, Arzalyn said: To me its look like a Boltboyz unit behind a terrain piece. Yes indeed, after looking it again and checking the list they made it was some boltboyz. Maybe it was wishfull thinking, but I really thought that it was a catapult .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arzalyn Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 As we have been speculating, Kruleboyz will be appearing on the next Underworlds season! The warband is called Da Kunnin' Krew and have 2 grots in it (one of them, Gikkit was revealed today): https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/08/30/meet-gikkit-the-herald-of-a-new-season-of-warhammer-underworlds/ Unless they change the formula this season, the Leader of the warband will be a named version of one of our Heroes. Any guess/wishes for which one we gonna get? I personally would like to see a Shaman to give us a alternative sculpt for lists that use more than one, but if this release taught me anything is that I probably gonna be a Killaboss... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamcbutton Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 11 minutes ago, Arzalyn said: As we have been speculating, Kruleboyz will be appearing on the next Underworlds season! The warband is called Da Kunnin' Krew and have 2 grots in it (one of them, Gikkit was revealed today): https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/08/30/meet-gikkit-the-herald-of-a-new-season-of-warhammer-underworlds/ Unless they change the formula this season, the Leader of the warband will be a named version of one of our Heroes. Any guess/wishes for which one we gonna get? I personally would like to see a Shaman to give us a alternative sculpt for lists that use more than one, but if this release taught me anything is that I probably gonna be a Killaboss... The warband leaders aren’t always a named version of an existing hero though (Thorns of the Briar Queen, Ylthari’s Guardians, Skaeth’s Wild Hunt, Rippa’s Snarlfangs, the Dread Pageant, Kainan’s Reapers). Given the design of this grot with chains as snares, we could be getting a Snatchaboss on foot, which is something we haven’t already seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arzalyn Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, Adamcbutton said: The warband leaders aren’t always a named version of an existing hero though (Thorns of the Briar Queen, Ylthari’s Guardians, Skaeth’s Wild Hunt, Rippa’s Snarlfangs, the Dread Pageant, Kainan’s Reapers). Given the design of this grot with chains as snares, we could be getting a Snatchaboss on foot, which is something we haven’t already seen. Yeah that is true, but they are more often than not if the faction they depict already exist. Still, a Snatchaboss on foot would be cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.T.Bahnum Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 (edited) Betting these guys will actually be in the battletome on release? (Sorry posted as a statement not a question). Edited August 30, 2021 by P.T.Bahnum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arzalyn Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 2 hours ago, P.T.Bahnum said: Betting these guys will actually be in the battletome on release? (Sorry posted as a statement not a question). I was wondering exactly this. If the underworlds season drop latter this year (December like last year) it wouldn't make much sense to have them in a battletome that was supposed to be released in August. I think it will depend on how fast they will tease the new season and reveal the two warbands in the starter box. If they don't rush it, it probably mean they aren't in the battletomes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombiepiratexxx Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 I doubt they'll be in the Battletome, we're already getting 3 of the warbands in there IIRC. But until the new season is out they won't be shown and hopefully we're actually getting the new book well before season 5 starter box comes out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.T.Bahnum Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 2 hours ago, zombiepiratexxx said: I doubt they'll be in the Battletome, we're already getting 3 of the warbands in there IIRC. But until the new season is out they won't be shown and hopefully we're actually getting the new book well before season 5 starter box comes out. I mean necrons codex came out with unreleased models like the shadow dragon(? Think that's what it was called I don't remember sorry) so it not impossible that they include it in the tome. I mean your likely right I'm just stating it's not impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan's Cynic Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) If the schedule was kept, people would already have the new Battletome and thus 'spoilt' the Underworlds warbands if they were going to be featured. Since this is the first teaser we've had of the new season, I think it's fair to assume the warbands are not going to be included in the BT. Edited August 31, 2021 by Clan's Cynic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.T.Bahnum Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, Clan's Cynic said: If the schedule was kept, people would already have the new Battletome and thus 'spoilt' the Underworlds warbands if they were going to be featured. Since this is the first teaser we've had of the new season, I think it's fair to assume the warbands are not going to be included in the BT. So the battletomes schedule was August. assuming they didnt allow preorders until this previous saturday. (to allow dates for this it would be aug 28th as the last day possible do preorders by the time they scheduled, and they showed the model the 30th) Most people wouldnt have the battletome until its actual release not its preorder thus they could still show these off and it wouldve been the same. Just saying necrons showed off units before they were released as well. still not impossible based off previous releases. Edited September 1, 2021 by P.T.Bahnum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boingrot Bouncer Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 10 hours ago, Clan's Cynic said: If the schedule was kept, people would already have the new Battletome and thus 'spoilt' the Underworlds warbands if they were going to be featured. Since this is the first teaser we've had of the new season, I think it's fair to assume the warbands are not going to be included in the BT. If they would have released the battletome in time they might have revealed the Underworld warband earlier, and they might have delayed the reveal until now that the book is delayed. The mini look nice, but I hope they have a schaman in it since you will probably want to run 2 or 3 of them in your list so nice with an alternative sculpt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombiepiratexxx Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 While I am sure the vast majority of us that are interested in KB want a Shaman model outside of Dominion, I'm also reminded that Nighthaunt are super reliant on their heroes and the ones you want were exclusively tied to Soul Wars boxes, and they still are. Hopefully GW will have learnt since then and we get some clampacks for the heroes individually but there's a precedent for them to not do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maogrim Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 Well, for Daughters they did release the Melusai Ironscale individually a few months after Shadow and Pain was released. But all options for Slaughter Queens, Hag Queens and Blooswrack Medusas are locked in the Cauldron kits. Lumineth on the other hand, one of the newer armies, can or have to get all their heroes seperately since there is no Start Collecting available (not counting the 'limited' launch box). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arzalyn Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 (edited) We finally got some hidden models in photos! In a recent Instagram photo we can see this little guy and his pet vulture in the back. The vulture and the spear are both rumor enginees! I would guess it is either part the of the incoming underworlds warband or a alternate build for the multi part Guttripaz kit. Edited September 1, 2021 by Arzalyn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan's Cynic Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 (edited) Seems odd they'd show an Underworlds model without their warband together, but hopefully it boosts the odds of more units yet to be shown. Edited September 1, 2021 by Clan's Cynic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beliman Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 On 9/1/2021 at 1:02 PM, Arzalyn said: We finally got some hidden models in photos! In a recent Instagram photo we can see this little guy and his pet vulture in the back. The vulture and the spear are both rumor enginees! I would guess it is either part the of the incoming underworlds warband or a alternate build for the multi part Guttripaz kit. I love how creepy they look! Common GW, give us the battletomes and models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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