EngraBlackSword Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Hello folks! As the title says, I’m planning to attend to a local tournament and I have been mostly disconnected from AOS for the last year. In my region meta, it's very common face horde armies. I would like to know your thoughts about this lists and if you would make any changes: Allegiance: OrderKnight-Azyros (100)Knight-Incantor (120)Knight-Vexillor (110)- Meteoric StandardLord-Relictor (100)5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & Shield5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & Shield5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & Shield9 x Aetherwings (120)10 x Evocators (420)12 x Vanguard-Raptors with Longstrike Crossbows (680)Purple Sun of Shyish (50)Total: 1970 / 2000Extra Command Points: 0Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 122 or Allegiance: Order Knight-Incantor (120) Lord-Relictor (100) Lord-Ordinator (140) Knight-Vexillor (110)- Meteoric Standard5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & Shield5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & Shield5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & Shield12 x Vanguard-Raptors with Longstrike Crossbows (680) 10 x Skinks (60)- Meteoric Javelins Celestite Daggers & Star Bucklers10 x Skinks (60)- Meteoric Javelins Celestite Daggers & Star BucklersCelestar Ballista (110) Celestar Ballista (110) Celestar Ballista (110) Celestar Ballista (110) Total: 1980 / 2000 Extra Command Points: 0 Allies: 0 / 400 Wounds: 122 I’m most used to play the first one, but i’ve seen the second and I think it can be fun to play. Looking forward for your answers, ty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erdemo86 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 I dont think a lot of people can help you, because stormcast are in a bad spot right now. Compared to other army’s stormcast feels very bad. You’re lists are both very good for what you can do as stormcast player but like I said: very weak compared to other army’s. Everyone is hoping for a new battletome atm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evantas Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 15 hours ago, EngraBlackSword said: Hello folks! As the title says, I’m planning to attend to a local tournament and I have been mostly disconnected from AOS for the last year. In my region meta, it's very common face horde armies. I would like to know your thoughts about this lists and if you would make any changes: Allegiance: OrderKnight-Azyros (100)Knight-Incantor (120)Knight-Vexillor (110)- Meteoric StandardLord-Relictor (100)5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & Shield5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & Shield5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & Shield9 x Aetherwings (120)10 x Evocators (420)12 x Vanguard-Raptors with Longstrike Crossbows (680)Purple Sun of Shyish (50)Total: 1970 / 2000Extra Command Points: 0Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 122 or Allegiance: Order Knight-Incantor (120) Lord-Relictor (100) Lord-Ordinator (140) Knight-Vexillor (110)- Meteoric Standard5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & Shield5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & Shield5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & Shield12 x Vanguard-Raptors with Longstrike Crossbows (680) 10 x Skinks (60)- Meteoric Javelins Celestite Daggers & Star Bucklers10 x Skinks (60)- Meteoric Javelins Celestite Daggers & Star BucklersCelestar Ballista (110) Celestar Ballista (110) Celestar Ballista (110) Celestar Ballista (110) Total: 1980 / 2000 Extra Command Points: 0 Allies: 0 / 400 Wounds: 122 I’m most used to play the first one, but i’ve seen the second and I think it can be fun to play. Looking forward for your answers, ty! I think 12X raptors might be a bit overkill, 9x are usually sufficient to delete things. Don't have much concrete suggestions, but I've been toying with adding Avalenor as an anvil for the raptors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattrulesok Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 17 hours ago, EngraBlackSword said: Allegiance: OrderKnight-Azyros (100)Knight-Incantor (120)Knight-Vexillor (110)- Meteoric StandardLord-Relictor (100)5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & Shield5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & Shield5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & Shield9 x Aetherwings (120)10 x Evocators (420)12 x Vanguard-Raptors with Longstrike Crossbows (680)Purple Sun of Shyish (50)Total: 1970 / 2000Extra Command Points: 0Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 122 Few thoughts, why are you running 9 aetherwings? They are good but once they end up in combat they will just die, I feel like 3x3 gives you more options and more ways to stuff enemy units. What's the lord Relictor doing in this list? Evocators are strong but how do they get into combat, they are slow and not strong enough to survive a charge from strong enemy units. Why a purple sun? Most armies have much stronger casting and can easily unbind it. If you have a spare 50 points a cp would be a better option. 17 hours ago, EngraBlackSword said: Allegiance: Order Knight-Incantor (120) Lord-Relictor (100) Lord-Ordinator (140) Knight-Vexillor (110)- Meteoric Standard5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & Shield5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & Shield5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & Shield12 x Vanguard-Raptors with Longstrike Crossbows (680) 10 x Skinks (60)- Meteoric Javelins Celestite Daggers & Star Bucklers10 x Skinks (60)- Meteoric Javelins Celestite Daggers & Star BucklersCelestar Ballista (110) Celestar Ballista (110) Celestar Ballista (110) Celestar Ballista (110) Total: 1980 / 2000 Extra Command Points: 0 Allies: 0 / 400 Wounds: 122 Lots of power projection here but I'm not sure they relictor/vexillor combo is doing much, you really want to be finding the best way to screen enemies out of your fragile shooting units, I'd be tempted to remove a hero and maybe a skink unit and turn the points into aetherwings and even a chameleon skink unit to threaten their backboard. You also will want an extra cp as presumably with such a big raptor unit you want to play this in anvils? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juicy Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Stuff tha.t might help you -vanguard raptors max 9. 12 is overkill. -vangaurd raptors wants to have teleport/screens/aetherwings to keep them as safe as possible. Also want anvils of the heldenhammer for double tap. 24/hero 30/shooting. Loves ways to teleport like a lord aquilor/knight vex.. or less safe a priest with translocation. Bit risky if you fail that 3+. -Evocators on footx10. Loves gavriel surecharge. Why? to get them into melee before they got blasted. 5 inch movement 4+ armour save isnt going to survive a lot. Yes it used to be but at tournaments they dont. -see the problem of raptors with evocators. They both love another stormhost. -dont take a risky endless spell with just 1 caster. I would advice going big on magic or leave it at home. Just an incantor for that free dispelscroll is enough. Dont spend more points because at the higher tables there is enough magic defense to never let you cast anything. - vexillor with meteoric standard. While its sweet if you go raptors you want that teleport more then those small mortals. The standard is fine if youre going max mortal wound spam to finish some stuff but if you go raptors you want that redeploy. -if you dont go battalions you dont have to worry about drops so you can safely field some aetherwings. remember if you dont go stormkeep you get scoins and can put stuff in the sky. In the sky its pretty safe and works well for ranged units -ballista. Works well with 3/4+ lord ordinator+knight azyros. You want to put these units in the scoins of the storm and drop them at close range 18. To max those shots. Can work with anystormhost thats why you see them often in combination with evocators and gav in hammers of sigmar. 2 hammer units is always nice to have. Ive seen people take ballista into astral templars for that +1 to hit vs monsters in a monster heavy meta. Worked well for them with a big anvil unit thats sitting on objectives. -speaking of objectives. You want to hold them or prevent the enemy from scoring. You have a lot of senarios where you score extra with leaders,battleline, behemoth. Check at your tournament pack what senario's you are going to play. Because if you go at events where you need a lot of battleline units to score heavy and you run 3x5 libs you're already behind. Could be a reason to go 30 libbies +9 longstrikes into stormkeep to try to hold some midfield objectives with battleline, or drop 20 sequitors on a battleline scoring objective. hope this helps. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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