shinros Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 I expect Nagash to be amazing if they're pricing him at 975...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verminlord Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 So dissapoints with my bone kangs. RR 1s? On both? That's the most you could do GW? +++ MOD EDIT: Please no leaked photos +++ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doko Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Heywoah in twitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Ooh I guessed for Blood Knights to be between 180-200 lol anymore then 200 would have been a big nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doko Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Wk on foot and horse are a joke.........lost the +1 attack to a unit for a joke of reroll 1 hit that eveyone have with the generic command ability. Really every warscroll have been nerfed and we lost every revive units skills. I dont get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loft Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 45 minutes ago, Doko said: Yes im seeing the new tome in twitch. The mortarch seems buffed but almost all the other units nerfed seems,and blood knigth 195 are waaay overcosted,worse than olds than cost 180. Also radukar the wolf do around 10,6 damage and cost 320 and only 11 wounds with save 4, the t rex of seraphon do 14'4damage and have more wounds for 210.... So far every wsrscroll have been nerfed from leguion of nagash. Only grave guard seems great You're right, I've just gone over all the warscrolls and am basically off the army now. V sad, I was super hyped 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doko Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 (edited) Ok seems we have 4 gravesites, also we have in the alegiance the skill to revive models near of heroes but now it is only one time per unit Black nigths have been nerfed into the oblivion,same cost and stats but lost the lance and shield. Blood knigth same stats that old but 15 point expensiver Grave guard with two hand weapon seems too much good to be true but it is the best unit of the tome Edited May 13, 2021 by Doko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siphon Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Grave guard got buffed. Shield grave guard are pretty good for cost. Prince V is a beast. The rest I have seen doesn’t look great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Radukar comes with a free unit of wolves, so his points aren't as bad as they look. but yeah, lots of nerfs, lots of price hikes. The bin is real. It is a good thing I already wrote off this books rules or I'd be big mad. They nerfed wight kings. Wight Kings! They're already so bad! lore of the vampires is /crazy terrible/. Like, silly bad. Joke bad. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Sception said: Radukar comes with a free unit of wolves, so his points aren't as bad as they look. but yeah, lots of nerfs, lots of price hikes. The bin is real. It is a good thing I already wrote off this books rules or I'd be big mad. They nerfed wight kings. Wight Kings! They're already so bad! lore of the vampires is /crazy terrible/. Like, silly bad. Joke bad. Well thats disappointing to hear. Heres to hoping the new SCE stuff doesnt suck too edit: why would they remove a core part of Deaths thing which is bringing dead stuff back? Edited May 13, 2021 by Malakithe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinros Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Sception said: Radukar comes with a free unit of wolves, so his points aren't as bad as they look. but yeah, lots of nerfs, lots of price hikes. The bin is real. It is a good thing I already wrote off this books rules or I'd be big mad. They nerfed wight kings. Wight Kings! They're already so bad! lore of the vampires is /crazy terrible/. Like, silly bad. Joke bad. It's kinda strange that you can sort of tell who is writing the book, looking at the rules it seems that the Slaanesh Book writer also did Soulblight Gravelords. Edited May 13, 2021 by shinros 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doko Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Other example the black knigth,same stats and points than old. But........now they havent shield and also havent lances,they have lost the +1 damage when charge and the +1 save of the shield but cost 120 Really i dont know who do the tome but every scroll is a nerfed nagash scrolls version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lich King Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 We need to see sub allegiances and wait for 3rd. This book was obviously written for it .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doko Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 (edited) Feel bats 3 wounds save 6 and nothing special only can retreat and charge.........nothing to save us of shooting Something good,we have 4 graveyards yet,2 in our zone and 2 in enemy zone Edited May 13, 2021 by Doko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siphon Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 (edited) Deathless invocation is still around as allegiance ability but limited to once per turn. Edited May 13, 2021 by Siphon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, Siphon said: Deathless invocation is still around as allegiance ability but limited to once per turn. Thats borderline useless just like gravesites 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 4 grave sites, but they don't heal. vhordrai is a freight train. sword & board grave guard might be ok. not everything is worse, some stuff looks fun, but geeze. It's the kind of changes you would have imagined a couple years ago when nagash & ghasts were on every table. A unit can only be invoked once per turn. Healing is way, way down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Manny gets a 3+, some aura buffs. Looks ok. No cast/dispell bonuses tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 The more I see, the more I can say I'll have fun with this book in friendly narrative games, but I'm glad I'm not a serious competitive player, because I don't think I'd want to take this to a tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakithe Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Vargheists look better For some reason all the warscroll spells are cast 7+ which is garbage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tali182 Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Blood knight with +1 save, hit and wound from a coven throne seems competitive at a glance, I am sure there will be stuff that can be done competitively when the tome is studied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinros Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 So the Big winners of all of this in my opinion is Vyrkos in general, Prince V, Grave Guard and lore of deathmages. The rest? Is eeeeh, I also sort of feel bad for people who want to run Legion of Blood. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aren73 Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Vargheists are better... Wow though...seems they took LoN, changed very little, slapped some new allegiance abilities on it and called it done. Dammit I knew it was a bad sign as soon as I saw that the model lineup had extremely few new units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 I was wrong about mounted vampire lords. They're gone. Regular vamps fly, and keep their +1 attack ca, now limited to summonable units & wholly within at time of activation. i wanted wight kings toget a different CA so tgey weren't redundant with vamps, but the monkey's paw tiurned it into 're-roll 1's to hit'... ouch. the much speculated about & wish listed bloodline abilities / vampiric powers did not come to pass. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siphon Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Can someone pm the link to the Imgur? I was just watching Heywoah for the leaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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