Chumphammer Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 (edited) Thread for Army lists and ideas for running Khailebron Edited May 16, 2022 by Chumphammer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chumphammer Posted February 25, 2021 Author Share Posted February 25, 2021 *Insert Mad Cackling* 2 Drop Morathi-Gotrek 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuitari Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 9 hours ago, Chumphammer said: *Insert Mad Cackling* 2 Drop Morathi-Gotrek 24 bodies, how you want to secure objectives? Dmg output in this list looks poor too. Nice idea but this list has nothing: No bodies, no screen, no damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejnar Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 (edited) I am going to try the following list this weekend. Feel like hit or miss tbh. But fun though. It's one drop as far as I can tell. Allegiance: Daughters of Khaine- Temple: KhailebronLeadersBloodwrack Shrine (160)- General- Command Trait: Mistress of Illusion- Artefact: Whisperdeath- Lore of Shadows: Mirror DanceBloodwrack Medusa (100)- Artefact: Shadow Stone- Lore of Shadows: The WitheringMorathi-Khaine (210)- Lore of Shadows: MindrazorThe Shadow Queen (390)Battleline20 x Blood Stalkers (560)10 x Blood Sisters (260)5 x Blood Sisters (130)BattalionsVyperic Guard (140)Endless Spells / Terrain / CPsExtra Command Point (50)Total: 2000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 2Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 107 Edited February 26, 2021 by Dejnar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peegee Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Dejnar said: It's one drop as far as I can tell. It's not. The Shrine can't be in the Battalion, only Medusa on foot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejnar Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Just now, Peegee said: It's not. The Shrine can't be in the Battalion, only Medusa on foot. Well that sucked. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peegee Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Dejnar said: Well that sucked. 🙂 Agreed ☺️ But you can take it in Scathcoven on the other hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chumphammer Posted February 26, 2021 Author Share Posted February 26, 2021 8 hours ago, Nuitari said: 24 bodies, how you want to secure objectives? Dmg output in this list looks poor too. Nice idea but this list has nothing: No bodies, no screen, no damage. 1: Some objectives only need heroes. Plus if you kill whats on the point they cant take the point 2: poor damage output? Gotrek can clear entire units. Morathi's command ability giving the snakes an extra round shooting will help clear chaff screens or whittle down units. Morathi targets support characters or big threats. I have used Morathi and Gotrek before (old Morathi) and they throw out a ton of damage. 5 sisters with Morathi's +1A and MR can throw out a fair bit of damage on the charge also. 3: This isnt a list I would take to a tournament where I was aiming to well. Not all lists have to be 5-0 tournament lists. This list is designed on the amusment factor of having a 2 drop list with 3 heroes that cant be killed easily (especially if I can heal Gotrek) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chumphammer Posted February 26, 2021 Author Share Posted February 26, 2021 40 minutes ago, Peegee said: Agreed ☺️ But you can take it in Scathcoven on the other hand. Yeah it is a shame you cant take the Shrine in Vypyric Guard. With Morathi-khaine not being able to have snakes as battleline, not having the medusa on shrine makes it really less survivable if you are running snakes. Not as bad for Khelibron but a no for Haggnar. I hope they FAQ it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuitari Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Chumphammer said: 1: Some objectives only need heroes. Plus if you kill whats on the point they cant take the point 2: poor damage output? Gotrek can clear entire units. Morathi's command ability giving the snakes an extra round shooting will help clear chaff screens or whittle down units. Morathi targets support characters or big threats. I have used Morathi and Gotrek before (old Morathi) and they throw out a ton of damage. 5 sisters with Morathi's +1A and MR can throw out a fair bit of damage on the charge also. 3: This isnt a list I would take to a tournament where I was aiming to well. Not all lists have to be 5-0 tournament lists. This list is designed on the amusment factor of having a 2 drop list with 3 heroes that cant be killed easily (especially if I can heal Gotrek) Ok, if You played vs opponents that fight vs Gotrek - No questions He is so slow, threat you can easily avoided. Mindrazor is now 8+ so you cannot count on it. Dubble shooting is great, but in fact, your opponent have to kill 10 snakes, deal 3 dmg per turn to Morathi and avoid Gotrek - thats all I can't imagine how I could win with this list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chumphammer Posted February 26, 2021 Author Share Posted February 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, Nuitari said: Ok, if You played vs opponents that fight vs Gotrek - No questions He is so slow, threat you can easily avoided. Mindrazor is now 8+ so you cannot count on it. Dubble shooting is great, but in fact, your opponent have to kill 10 snakes, deal 3 dmg per turn to Morathi and avoid Gotrek - thats all I can't imagine how I could win with this list Guess we just have different experience and play style Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avindskjold Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Quick question about the Masters of the Shadowpaths ability. The last line says "That unit cannot move in the next movement phase." However - it doesn't say "in your next movement phase." As written, if your opponent takes the next turn, they cannot move in that movement phase. After their turn, if initiative falls back to you, they'd be able to move in that movement phase. Is this interpretation correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMoose Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 40 minutes ago, Avindskjold said: Quick question about the Masters of the Shadowpaths ability. The last line says "That unit cannot move in the next movement phase." However - it doesn't say "in your next movement phase." As written, if your opponent takes the next turn, they cannot move in that movement phase. After their turn, if initiative falls back to you, they'd be able to move in that movement phase. Is this interpretation correct? We won't truly know until we get an answer in a FAQ, but I agree with this current interpretation. NEXT movement phase vs YOUR NEXT movement phase being the key words here. Still a strange stipulation when there are many other abilities in the game that do not have this requirement. We shall see! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chumphammer Posted March 2, 2021 Author Share Posted March 2, 2021 Yeah FAQ should be out by next week as its usually 2 weeks after book drop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avindskjold Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 Shadowstalkers have the shadow leap ability, which is more or less the same effect as the Khailebron command ability. However, in a Khailebron list, enemies will be at -1 to hit them with both missile and ranged weapons. Shadowstalkers aren't as hungry for synergies as our mainstay units but I keep coming back to the idea of taking them along in a Khailebron list because they fit the shadowy spy/assassin theme. With their ability to scoot anywhere on the board, combined with Masters of the Shadowpaths on other units, I'm thinking it could be a very mobile, unpredictable list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fyrm Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Even with their ability negating the need to use the command ability on them, ya they have great value. Heck, partially because of that! Other temples, they jump to harass mostly. They leave behind everyone else. Here, you can send a unit to escort them. A hero to support or a blob of chaff/bodyguards to help hold a point. Ya, I like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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