jeanfluflu Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Hey guys, i'm going to have a game vs blades of khorne tomorw. The guy will probably play 3 bloodthirster and the gorepilgrims (2 drop armies with the big boys hitting at the same time during combat phase); I've always had one sided games against this man where the majority of my army roll over his poor guys (mostly thanks to shooting and well placed evocators units). For this battle i want both of us to have fun so i decided to play combat phase only using sequitors/evocators to make the game as bloody as it gets. Here's the list: Lord arcanum on gryph charger 200 pts Celestial blades, blades of gods Lord castellant 120 pts Gavriel sureheart 120 pts 20 sequitors 480 pts 5 sequitors 120 pts 10 evocators 420 pts 3 evocators on dracoline 260 pts -> all these units go into the cleansing phalanx battallion, both to get an extra command point and also to get the big sequitor blob full buffs (reroll hits, wounds and save...etc) 120 pts I have 170pts left which i can use by adding a small unit of judicators (to kill the bloodreavers protecting the juicy stuff, soften a big bloodthirster by a couple of wounds to then zap him with evo bomb...etc). Or i can put a unit of liberators and 2 units of aetherwings, i would have no range support but much better board control (i'll mostly use them to secure flanks, avoid some big charges if i can or just capture some objectives pretty early in the game). The base of the list will stay the same, i'd like your advice on the last part mostly, which option do you find more interesting in this matchup? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diogenes Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 I personally like this list and playstyle with Cleansing Phalanx. It is really good fun to play. But I do not think that Gavriel works well with battallions. Since Sequitors do not get the Blob-Bonus (440 for 20) I would reduce them to 15: Base Size, Pile-In and the 9 Inch Castellant already gets difficult. Depends a little, how much damage they will get on the opponents first charge. If you want to buff them in the hero phase, you cannot Deepstrike and Surecharge them. Does this work for your strategy? Then you have room for more tools. Either 3 more Evocators on Dracoline as Celestial Vindicators. Maybe the Knight Heraldor fits for multiple retreat-charge actions and beasty D3 damage claws? Then you could also change to the Arcanum's mount to a Dracoline for more support. Or you go the Staunch Defender Castellant route with all the buffs on the Sequitors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeanfluflu Posted February 19, 2021 Author Share Posted February 19, 2021 (edited) 19 hours ago, Diogenes said: I personally like this list and playstyle with Cleansing Phalanx. It is really good fun to play. But I do not think that Gavriel works well with battallions. Since Sequitors do not get the Blob-Bonus (440 for 20) I would reduce them to 15: Base Size, Pile-In and the 9 Inch Castellant already gets difficult. Depends a little, how much damage they will get on the opponents first charge. If you want to buff them in the hero phase, you cannot Deepstrike and Surecharge them. Does this work for your strategy? Then you have room for more tools. Either 3 more Evocators on Dracoline as Celestial Vindicators. Maybe the Knight Heraldor fits for multiple retreat-charge actions and beasty D3 damage claws? Then you could also change to the Arcanum's mount to a Dracoline for more support. Or you go the Staunch Defender Castellant route with all the buffs on the Sequitors. I do not plan to get all the 20 sequitors into combat, this is just to maximize the amount of wounds i put on an objective. 20 sequitors is 40 wounds, with 3+ rerollable save, they are not there to deepstrike but to be on the board turn one and run as fast as possible on the central objective with the buffs to get some board presence. This said you're probably right and 15 of them are already a threat, but since so much of my list focus on them i think having 20 isn't a waste of points. Gavriel is there to drop with the evocators, not the sequitors, and since his charge buff is a "wholly within 12inches" bubble i could use that to get a good charge with the dracoline as well (move 12", then charge 2D6+6" with reroll, i can safely bet on a 24" move with them). In an ideal world the evocators can drop from the sky on a weak unit and do their zap zap MW on a nearby tougher one that the dracoline could finish on the same turn. I don't get why you think putting Gavriel with battallion isn't a good idea, it reduces the amount of drops and allows to get 2CP turn one, wich is exactly what you want to allow for a 3" charge dropping from the sky. i agree with you though, the knight heraldor is a fantastic hero and could do wonders in this list as well but we're getting heavy on support heroes already and if i would put him in this list i'll certainly remove the castellant instead, this said removing the castellant would make my sequitors way less powerfull and since so much is on them i don't think i'll get rid of him now . This said i could potentially go for something like this: lord arcanum gavriel lord castellant 15 sequitors+ 5 sequitors+ 10 evocators+ 3 dracolines => Cleansing phallanx 2X5 judicators With 2 units of judicators i could potentially clean some of the defensive bloodreavers lines my opponent would put on the way of my charges so i can get into the juicy stuff faster or even do a couple of wounds on some of his big monster (ideally 5 or 6 would do) to then zap them in the combat phase with the evocators. Thanks for your comment anyway! Really helpful. EDIT: I just got into a game yesterday with some friends where one group of 10 sequitors got rid of 20 bloodreavers, 5 bloodisters, 5 blood sisters archer and 3 skullcrushers. These dudes are amazing and where only stopped by the mortal wounds output of the blood sisters and the melee attacks of the avatar of khaine. This game was at 1000pts, at 2000pts there's much more threats that can diminish them but still sequitors are a very good unit Edited February 19, 2021 by jeanfluflu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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