ManlyMuppet88 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) Honestly, the Chamberlain is my least favourite so far. It's not bad, by any means, it just feels a little too.....busy. Edited February 18, 2021 by ManlyMuppet88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 20 hours ago, Sharkbelly said: Torgillius the Chamberlain! I said this in another thread, but for now it really looks like the Cursed City villains are hitting all the classic Vampire Counts staple units that have not yet found a home in other Death armies. Gorslav has zombies (Deadwalkers) Halgrim has skeletons (Deathrattle) Torgillius has animal minions And between the kneeling long-haired guy and the Wolf, I think we will be seeing vampires (Soulblight) and newly introduce werewolves. I hope this is a sign of the subfactions we are going to find in Gravelords. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireAbend Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 20 hours ago, Sharkbelly said: Torgillius the Chamberlain! So the connection is there with his keys and animals to this roumour engines: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkbelly Posted February 19, 2021 Author Share Posted February 19, 2021 Yes. I wonder if this will represent some kind of in-game mechanic, such as the heroes having to collect the right keys to get into the castle... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwill_of_the_Woods Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 27 minutes ago, Sharkbelly said: Yes. I wonder if this will represent some kind of in-game mechanic, such as the heroes having to collect the right keys to get into the castle... That would be my guess. Encouraging you to go to each district of the city first. There could also be some to upgrade your equipment. Bonus keys to armoury or treasure chests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted February 19, 2021 Share Posted February 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Sharkbelly said: Yes. I wonder if this will represent some kind of in-game mechanic, such as the heroes having to collect the right keys to get into the castle... It really would make sense, given that Torgillius is the chamberlain, that is: The guy in charge of all the keys of a noble household. Since that's his day job, I guess cruel experiments to attain knowledge not meant for man to know are just a hobby of his. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkbelly Posted February 20, 2021 Author Share Posted February 20, 2021 Reveal time! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greasygeek Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Can’t remember the last time I was this hyped for a boardgame. Wauw what a reveal today. If this game was released next week it wouldn’t be soon enough... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkWingDuck Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 I too am excited! I really didn't expect them to drop this much info so soon! There's a few more closeups of miniatures on the preview post: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/02/20/warhammer-preview-online-lords-of-the-mortal-realms/ Looking at the components, it seems like a pretty straight port of the Blackstone mechanics to Fantasy. The only major difference appears to be they kept the square grid (that hold 1 mini) maps instead of using hex grids (that can hold 2-3 minis). There also appears to be some kind of track around the destiny dice holder that might be for gaining experience (like previous fantasy warhammer quests ... unlike blackstone that doesn't have the concept). I'm also not seeing anything like the ship abilities you get with blackstone. And there's also that Ulfenkarn in Peril card that seems to be tracking Fear and Influence... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praecautus Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 I like the look of it. Minis are great, so looks a good project. Lot of stuff in the box too, I expect it would b e about £120 ish at retail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swabby Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Yeah! This looks to be just as great as I hoped for. Strong ties to Blackstone Fortress, with the initiative track, the custom dice, the enemy portals/spawn points. The AOS/fantasy remake of Blackstone Fortress I dreamt of! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praecautus Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Looking at the tiles they seem to be two sided (not unexpected), with one side being cobblestone in the look of streets and others looking like rooms. So maybe a combination of city exploring with buildings and maybe the option to make internal dungeons (or other interesting outdoor dungeons) You could combine this with other sets (hammerhal in particular) and make some quite interesting maps. 😀 One possible gripe with the set and There does seem to be a limited number of basic adversaries - skeletons, zombies, bats, rats, - with some bigger mobs thrown in so it could get repetitive if it’s a long grinding game. However, the diversity may not be an issue, games like Nemesis and Zombicide manage with a similar number of basic adversaries coupled with interesting ways for rules to interact keeping it fresh. Adversary cards expansion would also help a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDM Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 On 25/01/2021 at 4:45 AM, Sharkbelly said: BSF had expansions so I'm hoping over the life of this it will as well. A second large adverseries box would be most preferable. Or a small expansion per district would be great. One new lord and a couple of minion types. A nighthaunt box, a FEC court one. Really help bulk out the range of death. A mortal shyish one would be fantastic. Live the snippets in the lore about shyish mortal literally fighting alongside their ancestors! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candlelight Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 What price tag should I expect? I'm worried GW is going to milk it as much as they can. I expect at least $200 and that's a big no for me and our group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praecautus Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Candlelight said: What price tag should I expect? I'm worried GW is going to milk it as much as they can. I expect at least $200 and that's a big no for me and our group. It’s 60 minis or so plus card stock etc. Thinking BSF was £95 Gw price I would think at least that but maybe more like £120 which puts it in the same bracket as eg Nemesis, Eclipse, Gloomhaven and Fosthaven Edited February 21, 2021 by Praecautus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candlelight Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 That's not that bad. The thing is, you can usually get non-GW products on sales. I got Nemesis for 80$ recently. Guess we have to wait and see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkbelly Posted February 21, 2021 Author Share Posted February 21, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, CDM said: BSF had expansions so I'm hoping over the life of this it will as well. A second large adverseries box would be most preferable. Or a small expansion per district would be great. One new lord and a couple of minion types. A nighthaunt box, a FEC court one. Really help bulk out the range of death. A mortal shyish one would be fantastic. Live the snippets in the lore about shyish mortal literally fighting alongside their ancestors! All of these sound cool. I would love to be able to use more undead models too, like perhaps the Corpse Cart. Or Fenrisian Wolves! Edited February 21, 2021 by Sharkbelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkWingDuck Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 Probably doesn't mean anything, but by my quick count ... they've shown us 36 adversary miniatures and the promo material says there's 42 in the box. You probably get repeats of the rats and the bats ... but here's hoping for something more! What they showed us: 10 Skeletons 10 Zombies 5 End Bosses 1 Varghulf like thing 2 Zombie "Orcs" 3 Undead Rat Swarms 3 Bat Swarms 3 Vampires Total 36 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, DarkWingDuck said: Probably doesn't mean anything, but by my quick count ... they've shown us 36 adversary miniatures and the promo material says there's 42 in the box. You probably get repeats of the rats and the bats ... but here's hoping for something more! What they showed us: 10 Skeletons 10 Zombies 5 End Bosses 1 Varghulf like thing 2 Zombie "Orcs" 3 Undead Rat Swarms 3 Bat Swarms 3 Vampires Total 36 I also count 36. Maybe that means double bat and rat swarms (three more of each)? They say there are 60 miniatures total. We know of 8 heroes and two objective markers (hanging skeleton and crow with key). Even at 42 adversaries, that leaves 8 minis unaccounted for. Interesting. EDIT: Oh wait, the website literally says 10 objective markers. Mystery solved. Edited February 22, 2021 by Neil Arthur Hotep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkbelly Posted February 22, 2021 Author Share Posted February 22, 2021 New lore up: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/02/22/the-one-alliance-that-turned-prosperous-mournhold-into-the-cursed-city 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMMachine Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 44 minutes ago, Sharkbelly said: New lore up: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/02/22/the-one-alliance-that-turned-prosperous-mournhold-into-the-cursed-city It's quite interesting. For once it took some time until Radukar made the Cities his own (Age of Chaos until the Necroquake) and we at least get some reason why our heroes try to free the city. And also why the city is called "Ulfenkarn". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinlvalentine Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 7 hours ago, Neil Arthur Hotep said: I also count 36. Maybe that means double bat and rat swarms (three more of each)? Yeah my bet is you get six rats and six bats, and for whatever reason they just haven't shown that in the photos. Seems like the most logical place for the final six models to come from. I don't think it's likely at this point that they've held anything back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinlvalentine Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 2 hours ago, EMMachine said: It's quite interesting. For once it took some time until Radukar made the Cities his own (Age of Chaos until the Necroquake) and we at least get some reason why our heroes try to free the city. And also why the city is called "Ulfenkarn". It's interesting that the city is still 'alive' to an extent - i.e. it still has humans living in it, presumably upholding some basic amount of the day-to-day running of the city, rather than just being ruins full of monsters like these settings usually are (Mordheim, Shadespire, etc). I wonder if that will be reflected in the scenario design at all, as narratively speaking that's a pretty different dynamic to just heading into a dungeon and bashing some bad guys. You're almost more like freedom fighters trying to retake the city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nighthaunt Noob Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 8 hours ago, robinlvalentine said: It's interesting that the city is still 'alive' to an extent - i.e. it still has humans living in it, presumably upholding some basic amount of the day-to-day running of the city, rather than just being ruins full of monsters like these settings usually are (Mordheim, Shadespire, etc). I wonder if that will be reflected in the scenario design at all, as narratively speaking that's a pretty different dynamic to just heading into a dungeon and bashing some bad guys. You're almost more like freedom fighters trying to retake the city. It is a pretty common setting in Vampire stories to have a town of locals under the shadow of the vampire overlords (Dracula, Curse of Strahd, and Critical Role's Briarwood arc for example). The vampires need living humans to feed on so they can't wipe out the whole populace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Arthur Hotep Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 17 hours ago, EMMachine said: It's quite interesting. For once it took some time until Radukar made the Cities his own (Age of Chaos until the Necroquake) and we at least get some reason why our heroes try to free the city. And also why the city is called "Ulfenkarn". Weird that they say the city was originally called Mournhold. That's the name of a major city in the Elder Scrolls universe as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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