Stormkeep patrol

[Mattrulesok]

Quick question for some reason I can't find the answer, with stormkeep patrol battalion ability (or any other abilities that let unit or units be setup or moved after setup is finished) what comes first? Deciding turn order or the movement of the units? I assume you move the battalion first then decide who's turn it is but I can't seem to find any confirmation. 

[Kadeton]

The Ever Vigilant ability happens "After armies are set up, but before the first battle round begins".

Initiative order is determined "At the start of each battle round". (Core p.228)

Since the first battle round hasn't yet begun when Ever Vigilant is used, initiative cannot have been determined at that point.

That does leave Beer & Pretzels' very good question about what happens when both armies have a similar redeployment ability - this isn't currently covered in the rules or FAQs as far as I'm aware. I would imagine that if we ever got a ruling, it would be that the player who finished deploying first could decide whether they would use their ability first or second.

[Mattrulesok]

Just bumping this in case anyone knows the answer

[Beer & Pretzels Gamer]

I can't find the citation but I believe that you decide turn order first because if multiple players have pre-battle moves (say Stormkeep and the TZ sub-faction that is moving units before the battle starts) you alternate based on turn order.

[GriinWan]

Pre-game moves happens usually before the initiative order is determined, as Kadeton written above. If two players have abilities to make pre-game moves they roll-off to see who can do it first. At least it is described so in Orruk Warclans battletome 🙂

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After armies are set up, but before the first battle round begins, half the BONESPLITTERZ units in a Bonesplitterz army (rounding up) can move up to 5". If both players can move units before the first battle round begins, they must roll
off, and the winner chooses who moves their units first.