Storage and Transport: LRL

[Hashut]

Does anyone have the A-Case hybrid messenger? Or the A-Case plus? I’d like to see how the mountain spirit fits into them if possible

[LuminethMage]

15 hours ago, BrBandit said:

Has anyone got any pictures of their storage solutions for Teclis? Decided not to build mine until I’ve found something given how expensive he is! 

For the Battle Foam, it looks exactly like the pictures I have shown above, it’s a custom cut-out, together with Avalenor/Spirit of the Mountain. He fits in well into his. 

I’m sure the magnetized versions mentioned above would also work well. 

[Icarion]

For the 20 or so years I've been in the miniature wargaming hobby, I've been a foam case person by default.

But with the advent of Lumineth, I decided to finally bite the bullet and magnetize my army.

The Tablewar mark III has been fantastic for army transport. In fact I've magnetized my minmag trays so that my fragile shining company units can remain in shining company during transport. 

The Mark III lets me transport my whole 2000 point army, with room for at least another 1000 as I expand, gives me room for my rulebooks, and great drawer for all my gaming aids. 

I would recommend this to anyone, be specifically to people with armies that are fragile and easy to break. 

[Pravus_Obsideo]

On 2/26/2021 at 8:43 PM, Athrawes said:

For the 20 or so years I've been in the miniature wargaming hobby, I've been a foam case person by default.

But with the advent of Lumineth, I decided to finally bite the bullet and magnetize my army.

The Tablewar mark III has been fantastic for army transport. In fact I've magnetized my minmag trays so that my fragile shining company units can remain in shining company during transport. 

The Mark III lets me transport my whole 2000 point army, with room for at least another 1000 as I expand, gives me room for my rulebooks, and great drawer for all my gaming aids. 

I would recommend this to anyone, be specifically to people with armies that are fragile and easy to break. 

Do you happen to have Teclis? Curious to see how well he would fit in that case, with other models, if you're able to take a photo of that. I imagine to fit a lot, it would involve using the drawer as more model storage space (like putting a piece of sheet metal inside of it or something).

I personally wouldn't mind using the case in that way, but without being positive of what else I'd be able to fit, it is hard to justify the purchase of an otherwise very nice looking case.

[Icarion]

@Pravus_Obsideo Unfortunately, I don't own a Teclis model, but having measured a friends, I can tell you he is about 8.5 inches tall. The case shown here, comes with the drawer and 4 magnetic racks, but you don't need to include all that in the case, I only do it in mine for ease of transport.

For instance, the rungs for the magnetic racks go pretty much all the way down, so here is an example using three shelves with one at the very bottom, and a ruler to show the height you can get,

If you can't make it out that bottom shelf can now clear more than 9" leaving plenty of height for Teclis. His 160mm base size also comfortably fits within the bounds of one of the magnetic trays as well. 

And this still leaves room for plenty of additionally models on each tray.  For example, I could easily fit everythin on my top two trays, into a single tray. I just have them spread out now for display.

Edited March 2, 2021 by Athrawes

[Pravus_Obsideo]

@Athrawes Thank you, I appreciate it.

I will likely end up grabbing one of these cases in the not-too-distant future, as they look significantly nicer (and importantly, more useful) than my current; a Game Plus foam case, but with a 3d printed frame to use for magnetic storage. It is a bit of a pain to measure and 3d print new frames for every height I'd need, and isn't as sturdy as I'd like unless I were to glue it.

[Wyliekyote]

These cases look great!!  Im a wee bit jealous of the Tablewar (and the magnetic BattleFoam ones) cases.  I almost did the foam thing... ( I did it for my SW:Legion...) for the LRL.  But, inspired by the Duncan Rhoades thing, I went out got the tubs!

So I tried to do the Magnetic Sheets at the bottom, but for whatever reason they just didn't work.  I've got some great magnets N54 strength, but they are not ON/Direct Contact the sheets...but no hold....  Instead I got a steel sheeting from Home Despot, cut it and hot glued it in. and now everything sticks!

The Really useful Bins are very cool.  I got 2 4L, 2 9L, and 2 19L.  Just to cover the bases, can always use bins...   I also got some reusable grocery bags to carry them in.  The 2L are for the Wardens, Sentels (anything under 3in).  The 9L for slightly taller things like Spells, Dawnriders, LoE (and maybe the Blademasters?!).  The 19L (Basically a File Folder holder) is deep enough for the Man Spirits and Teclis. The other 2L fits my books and dice and stuff as well.  

 

If anyone wants some measurements let me know...

Edited March 4, 2021 by Wyliekyote

[Pravus_Obsideo]

So I ended up getting the Tablewar case sooner than expected, thanks to a very timely bonus from work, and shockingly quick shipping.

Took a few photos to hopefully help others with size comparisons for Teclis, as he is the most troublesome model to store.

First thing to note, the base is too large for the trays available at Tablewar. Not an issue for me, as I planned to get custom cut steel to fit in the trays anyways, and without the plastic border of the removable tray, the base fits fine.

Also, Teclis is big. If you want to fit him, and dawnrider banners, while having the drawer, you're pretty much limited to two shelves.

To alleviate this, I attempted to learn how to use Autodesk Fusion 360 to design and print a little object to store Teclis separate from Celennar (as mine is magnetized). I've attached the stl and f3d files, so anyone who would like can print, or edit, it themselves. The tolerances aren't as good as I'd like, and the top takes a bit of work to get the magnet set properly, but I don't really have the desire to work on it more, as it works well enough for my needs. The bottom hole is intended for a 1/4" x 1/16" (but should have enough room for a 6mm x 2mm) magnet, and the top (as well as Teclis' cape and Celennar's wing) use a 1/8" x 1/32" magnet. I recommend N52 for both.

With Teclis separate, you can fit 3 shelves and the drawer easily. For reference, the Mountain Spirit and Avalenor are both shorter than Celennar, so would also be able to fit on the bottom tray.

Teclis Stand prototype v2.stl

_Teclis Stand prototype v2.f3d

Edited March 12, 2021 by Pravus_Obsideo
Correction to magnet size

[Howdyhedberg]

On 3/9/2021 at 3:42 AM, Pravus_Obsideo said:

So I ended up getting the Tablewar case sooner than expected, thanks to a very timely bonus from work, and shockingly quick shipping.

Took a few photos to hopefully help others with size comparisons for Teclis, as he is the most troublesome model to store.

Would you like to make a guide on how you did magnetize Teclis? I can only fit one shelf if i glue him on in my Kvissle case. But if i can keep him separate, then i could fit two. 

I saw someone put him on the tree instead, I'm wondering if that could be a solution, maybe not ideal, but it's a little bit too tall too my taste.

Edited March 11, 2021 by Howdyhedberg

[Pravus_Obsideo]

On 3/11/2021 at 10:04 AM, Howdyhedberg said:

Would you like to make a guide on how you did magnetize Teclis? I can only fit one shelf if i glue him on in my Kvissle case. But if i can keep him separate, then i could fit two. 

I saw someone put him on the tree instead, I'm wondering if that could be a solution, maybe not ideal, but it's a little bit too tall too my taste.

Fortunately, it is incredibly easy to do. The connection point between Celennar's wing and Teclis' cape is just large enough for two 1/8" x 1/32" (~3mm x 1mm) magnets. You just need to glue a magnet into place on Teclis, and then put a second on, then a small bead of glue in the connection point on Celennar's wing, and then join them together and you're done.

Because of the way the connection is designed, it is actually strong enough to lift the entire model up by Teclis, though I wouldn't make a habit of it.

And if you're feeling spicy, you can even magnetize Celennar to the base, though this requires drilling and honestly isn't really necessary even for storage. I did it mostly for painting purposes, and on the off-chance I ever decide to make a different base for the model.

Edited March 12, 2021 by Pravus_Obsideo
Correction to magnet size

[Howdyhedberg]

16 hours ago, Pravus_Obsideo said:

Fortunately, it is incredibly easy to do. The connection point between Celennar's wing and Teclis' cape is just large enough for two 3/8" x 3/16" magnets. You just need to glue a magnet into place on Teclis, and then put a second on, then a small bead of glue in the connection point on Celennar's wing, and then join them together and you're done.

Because of the way the connection is designed, it is actually strong enough to lift the entire model up by Teclis, though I wouldn't make a habit of it.

And if you're feeling spicy, you can even magnetize Celennar to the base, though this requires drilling and honestly isn't really necessary even for storage. I did it mostly for painting purposes, and on the off-chance I ever decide to make a different base for the model.

Thanks for the guide. I tried to check what 3/8 x 3/16 Inch  would be in metric measure... 

 

I wonder if two 3x1 would work, since one 3x2 seems to fit perfectly

[Pravus_Obsideo]

7 hours ago, Howdyhedberg said:

Thanks for the guide. I tried to check what 3/8 x 3/16 Inch  would be in metric measure... 

 

I wonder if two 3x1 would work, since one 3x2 seems to fit perfectly

Reading back, I realized the size I gave was way too large (turns out I put my magnets back in the wrong bag).

I've edited my posts, but the correct size is 1/8" x 1/32", or about 3mm x 1mm.

These are the specific magnets I used, and while they do have international shipping, I do not know the cost, and it would almost certainly be cheaper to source them locally.

Edited March 12, 2021 by Pravus_Obsideo

[Howdyhedberg]

10 hours ago, Pravus_Obsideo said:

Reading back, I realized the size I gave was way too large (turns out I put my magnets back in the wrong bag).

I've edited my posts, but the correct size is 1/8" x 1/32", or about 3mm x 1mm.

These are the specific magnets I used, and while they do have international shipping, I do not know the cost, and it would almost certainly be cheaper to source them locally.

Thanks!

Yeah, it seemed a little bit to big.

I got 50 3x1mm for around 15€ with shipping from Amazon. I only need 2, but I don't know where to buy such magnets in brick and mortar stores.

Thanks for your guide! Did you use super glue to make your magnets stick by the way?

 

[Pravus_Obsideo]

3 hours ago, Howdyhedberg said:

Did you use super glue to make your magnets stick by the way?

 

Yes

[Howdyhedberg]

I managed to get Teclis stuck with magnets. The ones I ordered from Amazon (First4Magnets 3x1)  is unfortunately not strong enough to keep Teclis in place when you move the model though.

Teclis falls down easily when I move the model forward. 

I will glue the models together now based on that experience. 

[Howdyhedberg]

On 2/21/2021 at 12:34 AM, Howdyhedberg said:

Luxja Overlock Bag for Overlock Machines, Overlock Bag for Storage Overlock Sewing Machines, Coverlock Bag for Transport Overlock Machine and Accessories, 33 cm x 30.5 cm x 34 cm, Black: Amazon.de: Küche & Haushalt

I went with that bag and one ikea kvissle.

This is how the result looks like.

I have 20 sentinels and 20 wardens on the top. I recon it could fit at least 20 more.

Since Teclis falls down way to easy with the magnets I got, I will glue him to Celenar.

But it you could remove Teclis, then you would easily fit another shelf!

The bag has plenty of space to put extra stuff in it!

[MidnightFox0083]

The kvissle is metal, right? So magnetized models will hold onto it? What are the dimensions on it if you don't mind?

[Howdyhedberg]

19 hours ago, MidnightFox0083 said:

The kvissle is metal, right? So magnetized models will hold onto it? What are the dimensions on it if you don't mind?

Yeah! It has cork board on one side though (on those plates you put in and out). The case itself feels little bit unstable, but it worked well when I traveled with public transportation.

And if you don't have a big model like Teclis, the you could make it more stable with using more plates (I only have one).

Dimensions: 

Width: 32 cm Depth: 25 cm Height 32 cm

 

 

 

 

 

[Dare]

On 4/11/2021 at 10:43 AM, Howdyhedberg said:

I went with that bag and one ikea kvissle.

This is how the result looks like.

I have 20 sentinels and 20 wardens on the top. I recon it could fit at least 20 more.

Since Teclis falls down way to easy with the magnets I got, I will glue him to Celenar.

But it you could remove Teclis, then you would easily fit another shelf!

The bag has plenty of space to put extra stuff in it!

So I bought both of these, and they're outstanding and far cheaper than the "official" stuff.

 

My only concern is getting the kvessle in and out of the bag it feels very flimsy and unstable due to how thin the metal is. Hopefully it's no big deal, just a feeling.

[Howdyhedberg]

On 5/19/2021 at 11:42 AM, Dare said:

So I bought both of these, and they're outstanding and far cheaper than the "official" stuff.

 

My only concern is getting the kvessle in and out of the bag it feels very flimsy and unstable due to how thin the metal is. Hopefully it's no big deal, just a feeling.

I know that feeling! I wish the sides of kvissle was thicker, but so far it's been working for me. I don't play regularly, so if you use it often in travels, please let us know how it goes!

[Pravus_Obsideo]

Took a few minutes to throw together a a stand for storing the top arch part of the Shrine Luminor separately from the rest of the model, which is very nice for managing vertical space in a magnetic storage case.

Full height, with magnets in the bottom. A very large model, difficult to store/transport. Magnets used were various sizes, really whatever you can fit under there that is strong. Definitely recommend N52.

Showing where the magnets go. I used 1/4" x 1/16" N52 magnets, but honestly N52 is overkill, and it was just what I had on hand. Weaker magnets should be totally fine, though I might not go much smaller. The bottom of the printed part has holes sized for two 1/4" x 1/16" magnets.

The shrine, without the arch, is just a bit taller than Celennar (sans Teclis) and will fit on a Tablewar tray.

I've attached the STL files for the shrine stand and the updated Teclis stand, which should more easily accommodate custom poses, as it is much slimmer, and has two holes underneath for a 1/4" x 1/16" magnet and a 1/8" x 1/32" magnet (the second is mostly just to stop it from spinning as easily in the case).

 

Teclis stand.stl Shrine Luminor (top) stand.stl

 

Edited May 26, 2021 by Pravus_Obsideo

[kollapse]

Anyone here used the Really Useful Boxes proposed in Duncan's videos for your Lumineth army? I'm looking at trying this solution, but I'm not sure which box sizes I would need. I guess all regular models like Wardens etc goes into the 4l one (most likely 2+ boxes needed for an army), but which sizes would I need for i.e. Sevireth, and separated Teclis/Celennar and the Shrine (as shown above)? I'm asking since the boxes aren't readily available in b&m stores here in Sweden, so I would need to order them online. 

[Dreadmund]

5 hours ago, kollapse said:

Anyone here used the Really Useful Boxes proposed in Duncan's videos for your Lumineth army? I'm looking at trying this solution, but I'm not sure which box sizes I would need. I guess all regular models like Wardens etc goes into the 4l one (most likely 2+ boxes needed for an army), but which sizes would I need for i.e. Sevireth, and separated Teclis/Celennar and the Shrine (as shown above)? I'm asking since the boxes aren't readily available in b&m stores here in Sweden, so I would need to order them online. 

I've used Really Useful boxes for several years. After seeing how much damage people's models take from foam boxes I honestly can't imagine another way to transport my army than magnetizing.

4L A4 will fit your wardens, loreseeker, cathallar and sentinels (the Sentinel unit champion is too tall however). I'm afraid I don't have any bladelords or stoneguard so I can't say for sure that they would fit, but it looks like they would except for the bladelord banner bearer. These will fit a Sanctum of Amyntok, but Twinstones and Rune of Petrification are too tall.

9L A4 is a great size. It will handily fit 90% of your army. Dawnriders, Windchargers, Eltharion, Windmage, Stonemage, Bannerblade, Lord Regent/Lyrior, Endless spells and Ellania + Ellathor. However, I think it would be a bit too short for a Spirit of the mountain/avalenor. I have a Sevireth kit, but haven't built it yet, so I'm afraid I can't say for sure if it would fit.

I also use a 19L A4. This is tall enough for both Teclis and the Shrine Luminor and will fit both models at the same time. If you aren't taking Teclis, there would be enough room for 2-3 spirits of wind or mountain and the Shrine at the same time. I put my shrine on a base and measure from the model instead of the base for ranges just so it would be easier to magnetize and so it would share basing with the rest of my army.

Hopefully someone else could help with measurements for Avalenor and Sevireth.

[kollapse]

9 hours ago, Dreadmund said:

I've used Really Useful boxes for several years. After seeing how much damage people's models take from foam boxes I honestly can't imagine another way to transport my army than magnetizing.

4L A4 will fit your wardens, loreseeker, cathallar and sentinels (the Sentinel unit champion is too tall however). I'm afraid I don't have any bladelords or stoneguard so I can't say for sure that they would fit, but it looks like they would except for the bladelord banner bearer. These will fit a Sanctum of Amyntok, but Twinstones and Rune of Petrification are too tall.

9L A4 is a great size. It will handily fit 90% of your army. Dawnriders, Windchargers, Eltharion, Windmage, Stonemage, Bannerblade, Lord Regent/Lyrior, Endless spells and Ellania + Ellathor. However, I think it would be a bit too short for a Spirit of the mountain/avalenor. I have a Sevireth kit, but haven't built it yet, so I'm afraid I can't say for sure if it would fit.

I also use a 19L A4. This is tall enough for both Teclis and the Shrine Luminor and will fit both models at the same time. If you aren't taking Teclis, there would be enough room for 2-3 spirits of wind or mountain and the Shrine at the same time. I put my shrine on a base and measure from the model instead of the base for ranges just so it would be easier to magnetize and so it would share basing with the rest of my army.

Hopefully someone else could help with measurements for Avalenor and Sevireth.

Thanks for your input! Sounds like the 4L doesn't really work optimally when in my case only the Wardens and the Cathallar would go there - I'm planning on using magnetized MiniMagTrays for Wardens and Sentinels, and I think I want to keep the regular models and champion together where possible. That might not be practical, having to use only 9L+ boxes for the entire army, so I'll have to think about it. How many of these are you using? 

If I'm playing Shrine Luminor and the Sevireth package with three wind spirits it sounds like I would need two 19L boxes, right? 

[kollapse]

So does anyone have the height (or can measure) of Celennar sans Teclis, Shrine Luminor sans the shrine (i.e. the tallest of the two parts) and Sevireth? Trying to calculate what storage solution (and how many) would fit it all.