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Behold, my shiny and exotic creations!
So I've got a few models I want to try, like the Errant Questor that I bought second hand (it means it's well painted ha!), so i'm going to lay down silly lists with silly combos mixed in with some less silly stuff.
Feel free to chime in!

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Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals
- Stormhost: Anvils of the Heldenhammer

Leaders
Lord-Relictor (100)
- Prayer: Bless Weapons
Celestant-Prime (340)
- General
Errant-Questor (140)
- Artefact: Soutlhief.
LCast shines on him or Prime depending on the situation

- Acts a wound reserve for the primes or go tanking alone.
Lord-Castellant (120)
- Mystic Light (Artefact): Fury Brand
Fury brand on the Prime for moar damage.
Knight-Incantor (140)

Battleline
5 x Liberators (100)
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x Grandhammers
5 x Liberators (100)
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x Grandhammers
20 x Judicators (640)
- Skybolt Bows
- 4x Shockbolt Bows

Units
3 x Prosecutors with Stormcall Javelins (90)
- 1x Stormsurge Tridents
3 x Prosecutors with Stormcall Javelins (90)
- 1x Stormsurge Tridents
3 x Prosecutors with Stormcall Javelins (90)
- 1x Stormsurge Tridents

Battalions
Vanguard Wing (140)

Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs
Extra Command Point (50)

Total: 2140 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 2
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 107

The goal of this one is to play the exploding D2 dices game, twice per turn.


 
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The "Oh, you got a one drop list ? That's cute".


Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals

- Stormhost: Anvils of the Heldenhammer
Lord-Celestant (100)
- General
- Command Trait: Deathly Aura
- Artefact: Soulthief
Knight-Azyros (100)
- Mystic Light (Artefact): Lantern of the Tempest
5 x Liberators (100)
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x Grandhammers
5 x Liberators (100)
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x Grandhammers
5 x Liberators (100)
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x Grandhammers
5 x Judicators (160)
- Boltstorm Crossbows
- 1x Thunderbolt Crossbows
20 x Judicators (640)
- Skybolt Bows
- 4x Shockbolt Bows
9 x Prosecutors with Stormcall Javelins (270)
- 3x Stormsurge Tridents
5 x Protectors (180)
- 2x Starsoul Maces
5 x Protectors (180)
- 2x Starsoul Maces
Warrior Brotherhood (180)

Total: 2130 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 1
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 139



Clocks in at 1970 points when all reductions applied.
1 drop army, but you're not forced to drop them altogether, you can have some of them starting on the table.
If you're not facing a 1 drop army, you could :
- give your opponent first turn. Depending on what he's got on the table and if he can make a T1 charge or not, you can just leave the judicators and prosecutors on the table. He moves, you shoot him in your hero phase with the two units. then you drop accordingly your melee units.
- you take first turn, you drop everything on his face at an advantageous position, trying to apply maximum pressure with shooting, then charge, between shooting and melee + bravery debuff, it's going to be funky for his battleshock tests.


The "Oh you've got a one drop list, that's cute, melee version" :
 

Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals
- Stormhost: Celestial Vindicators

Leaders
Lord-Celestant (100)
- General
- Command Trait: Single-minded Fury
- Artefact: Armor of Silvered Sigmarite
Knight-Vexillor (120)
- Pennant of the Stormbringer
- Artefact: Stormrage Blade

Battleline
5 x Liberators (100)
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x Grandhammers
5 x Liberators (100)
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x Grandhammers
5 x Liberators (100)
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x Grandhammers
5 x Judicators (160)
- Boltstorm Crossbows
- 1x Thunderbolt Crossbows
5 x Judicators (160)
- Boltstorm Crossbows
- 1x Thunderbolt Crossbows

Units
10 x Decimators (360)
3 x Prosecutors with Stormcall Javelins (90)
- 1x Stormsurge Tridents
15 x Protectors (540)

Battalions
Warrior Brotherhood (180)

Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs
Extra Command Point (50)

Total: 2060 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 2
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 141

 

 

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The "I'm gonna wreck you from afar before my big hammer dude comes and say hello" list

Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals


Leaders
Lord-Celestant (100)
- General
- Command Trait: Deathly Aura
- Artefact: Armor of Silvered Sigmarite
Lord-Ordinator (140)
- Artefact: Soulthief
Celestant-Prime (340)

Battleline
5 x Liberators (100)
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x Grandhammers
5 x Liberators (100)
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x Grandhammers
5 x Judicators (160)
- Skybolt Bows
- 2x Shockbolt Bows
5 x Judicators (160)
- Skybolt Bows
- 2x Shockbolt Bows

Units
5 x Decimators (180)
5 x Protectors (180)
3 x Aetherwings (50)

Artillery
Celestar Ballista (110)
Celestar Ballista (110)
Celestar Ballista (110)
Celestar Ballista (110)

Battalions
Skyborne Slayers (190)

Total: 2140 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 1
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 122


Clocks in at 2000 points after reductions. libs, juds aetherwings on the table so you can deepstrike balistas + LO.
That list is maximum swing! No innate rerolls. Use at your own risks and perils.
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A two drop list, melee oriented!


Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals


Leaders
Lord-Celestant (100)
- General
- Command Trait: Staunch Defender
- Artefact: Armor of Silvered Sigmarite

Battleline
5 x Liberators (100)
- Warhammers
- 1x Grandhammers
5 x Liberators (100)
- Warhammers
- 1x Grandhammers
5 x Judicators (160)
- Boltstorm Crossbows
- 1x Thunderbolt Crossbows
5 x Judicators (160)
- Boltstorm Crossbows
- 1x Thunderbolt Crossbows

Units
2 x Concussors (240)
2 x Concussors (240)
2 x Desolators (200)
2 x Desolators (200)
5 x Decimators (180)
5 x Protectors (180)

Battalions
Skyborne Slayers (190)
Thunderwave Echelon (100)

Total: 2150 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 2
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 115

 
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A three drop "HAVE YOU SEEN MY PET STARDRAKE" list (also called by myself only : A cheap Starcast knockout) :
 
Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals

Leaders
Lord-Celestant on Stardrake (500)
- General
- Celestine Hammer
- Command Trait: Staunch Defender
- Artefact: Mirrorshield
- Mount Trait: Storm-winged
Lord-Castellant (120)
- Mystic Light (Artefact): Fury Brand
Lord-Relictor (100)
- Prayer: Translocation
Knight-Heraldor (120)
- Meteoric Standard
Knight-Vexillor (120)
- Meteoric Standard
- Treasured Standard (Artefact): Lichebone Standard
Knight-Heraldor (120)

Battleline
5 x Liberators (100)
- Warhammers
- 1x Grandhammers
5 x Liberators (100)
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x Grandhammers
5 x Judicators (160)
- Skybolt Bows
- 1x Shockbolt Bows

Units
6 x Prosecutors with Stormcall Javelins (180)
- 1x Stormsurge Tridents
3 x Prosecutors with Stormcall Javelins (90)
- 1x Stormsurge Tridents
3 x Prosecutors with Stormcall Javelins (90)
- 1x Stormsurge Tridents

Battalions
Lords of the Storm (140)
Vanguard Wing (140)

Total: 2060 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 2
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 96

1990 points. The goal of that one is to hope the enemy is going to bunker up. Then rain down upon him all of Sigmar's wrath, either T1 or T2 ( 3 vexillors = possible 9 MW in a 2D6 range, albeit just once). Heraldors could aso be used instead of Vexillors since their worth doesn't degrade after seeing use. Furthermore, their shooting ability takes place in the movement phase, so you can deepstrike them then use your ability, which is depending on terrain ( sad face).
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A two drop list based on Skyborne slayers.

Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals
- Stormhost: Anvils of the Heldenhammer
Mortal Realm: Shyish

Leaders
Lord-Celestant (100)
- Artefact: Armor of Silvered Sigmarite
Lord-Arcanum on Tauralon (320)
- General
- Command Trait: Deathly Aura
- Artefact: Soulthief
- Spell: Celestial Blades
- Mount Trait: Steel Pinions

Battleline
10 x Judicators (320)
- Boltstorm Crossbows
- 2x Thunderbolt Crossbows
20 x Judicators (640)
- Skybolt Bows
- 4x Shockbolt Bows
5 x Liberators (100)
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x Grandhammers
5 x Liberators (100)
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x Grandhammers

Units
5 x Protectors (180)
- 2x Starsoul Maces
5 x Decimators (180)
- 2x Starsoul Maces

Battalions
Skyborne Slayers (190)

Total: 2130 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 1
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 125

Clocks in at 1990 points. Tauralon to boost shooting hit chance by +1. Another possibility would be to remove 5 judicators, and take a relictor instead for "Bless weapons".

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Allegiance: Order
Mortal Realm: Shyish

Leaders
Lord-Celestant on Stardrake (500) => D6 targets, 4+ = D3MW in the shooting phase.
- General
- Celestine Hammer
- Command Trait: Legendary Fighter
- Artefact: Phoenix Stone
Lord-Exorcist (120) =>casts comets
Lord-Exorcist (120) => casts something
Archmage Teclis and Celennar, Spirit of Hysh (660) => Casts 5++ in 18" to everybody. Casts Umbral, casts His damage spell and mystic shield on someone.

Battleline
10 x Vanari Auralan Wardens (120) => help in casting an endless spell
10 x Vanari Auralan Wardens (120) => same
10 x Vanari Auralan Wardens (120) => same

Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs
Everblaze Comet (100)
Umbral Spellportal (70)
Soulscream Bridge (80)
Quicksilver Swords (30)
Malevolent Maelstrom (10)

Total: 2050 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 0
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 72

 
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Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals
- Stormhost: Hammers of Sigmar

Leaders
Vandus Hammerhand (260)
- General
- Mount Trait: Keen-clawed
Lord-Castellant (120)
- Artefact: God-forged Blade
Lord-Relictor (100)
- Prayer: Bless Weapons
Knight-Azyros (100)
Knight-Vexillor (110)
- Pennant of the Stormbringer
- Treasured Standard (Artefact): Lichebone Standard
Knight-Vexillor (110)
- Pennant of the Stormbringer

Battleline
5 x Liberators (90)
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x Grandhammers
5 x Liberators (90)
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x Grandhammers
5 x Liberators (90)
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x Grandhammers

Units
3 x Aetherwings (40)
20 x Protectors (680)
- 4x Starsoul Maces

Battalions
Lords of the Storm (130)

Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs
Extra Command Point (50)

Total: 1970 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 2
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 129


@Nizrah What about this list?
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Awaiting list

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So I have been trying to make up some lists using models I own and battalions available.

Everybody is rightfully afraid of our heroes being sniped by either MW or high volume shooting with the recent armies.
What could we do to prevent that ?

One way to do it is to have a one drop army list. So far we've got usable at 2000 points

- Vanguard mega battalion. But no magic. No priest either, Azyros for rr1. Seems like the most powerful.
- Skyborne Slayers. +1 to hit bubble with LC, no magic, no priest.
- Warrior brotherhood. +1 to hit bubble with LC, no magic, no priest but AZyros for rr1, or Vexilor/Heraldor/Venator.

One of the problem we face is that if we play one of those one drop list, we're stuck with a very thematic and restrained chamber.
All of them lack access to support (magic, prayers) if you want a one drop army.

Can we get a two drop army to do that ? Nope. So our only way to have a mix of this stuff is to go for a three or four drop list or go the full "we don't care about our drops list", right ?

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7 minutes ago, Maturin said:

Can we get a two drop army to do that ? Nope. So our only way to have a mix of this stuff is to go for a three or four drop list or go the full "we don't care about our drops list", right ?

You can go for 2 drops with Skyborne slayers and add an incantor / a veritant / a kroak -but then you are practically only running MSUs, so don't know if that's viable

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5 minutes ago, Marcvs said:

You can go for 2 drops with Skyborne slayers and add an incantor / a veritant / a kroak -but then you are practically only running MSUs, so don't know if that's viable

Check out the last list posted in here. 20 Judicators +10 Judicators and a Tauralon.

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2 minutes ago, Maturin said:

Check out the last list posted in here. 20 Judicators +10 Judicators and a Tauralon.

Yeah, not sure about the choice of the tauralon (the +1 flyover is quite difficult to use in practice and generally means suicide :D ), but I agree with general idea

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2 minutes ago, Marcvs said:

Yeah, not sure about the choice of the tauralon (the +1 flyover is quite difficult to use in practice and generally means suicide :D ), but I agree with general idea

Yeah. It's either a Tauralon for +1 to hit, or a relictor for exploding dices on 6. But the exploding dices are less interesting outside a Vanguard Wing. But then, we're at 3/4 drops, not two.

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Just for giggles, added a bunker GA : Order list. Like a CoS HH one, but with less synergy albeit with TECLIS!
What do you guys think ? Enough screens to withstand a turn 1 Changehost then retaliate ? Would it be better to switch to liberators knowing those wardens will surely end dead ?

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Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals
- Stormhost: Anvils of the Heldenhammer
Mortal Realm: Chamon

Leaders
Lord-Celestant on Dracoth (200)
- General
- Tempestos Hammer & Thundershield
- Command Trait: Deathly Aura
- Artefact: Plate of Perfect Protection
- Mount Trait: Keen-clawed
Lord-Castellant (120)
- Artefact: Soulthief
- Mystic Light (Artefact): Lantern of the Tempest
Lord-Relictor (100)
- Prayer: Bless Weapons
Knight-Azyros (100)
- Mystic Light (Artefact): Lantern of the Tempest
Knight-Heraldor (100)
Knight-Heraldor (100)

Battleline
5 x Liberators (90)
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x Grandhammers
5 x Liberators (90)
- Warhammers
- 1x Grandhammers
20 x Judicators (560)
- Skybolt Bows
- 4x Shockbolt Bows

Units
3 x Prosecutors with Stormcall Javelins (90)
- 1x Stormsurge Tridents
3 x Prosecutors with Stormcall Javelins (90)
- 1x Stormsurge Tridents
3 x Prosecutors with Stormcall Javelins (90)
- 1x Stormsurge Tridents

Battalions
Vanguard Wing (140)
Lords of the Storm (130)

Total: 2000 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 2
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 111

LCoD is 2+ with LC's light, reroll 1's, ignore rend 1.
Relictor can heal LCoD and cast bless weapons on judicators. Castellant protects (like the Emperor) with the reroll unmodified 6's to hit during shooting phase.
Heraldors are droped where convenient for D3MW fuckery.


Alternative would be to swap one heraldor for vexilor but to do that you need to downgrade the LCoD to a LC. If you do then crossbows judi over bolts one because TP would mean no problem with range.

3 drops so there's a good chance you'd go first and wreck faces. Quite mobile for objective taking with the Prosecutors.

What do  you guys think ?

 
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i found that xbolt judicators dont work well with a lord relictor but bow judicators are awsome. Its cause of the range so would keep the bow dudes. I like how the new points make this list possible but i dont think its strong cause its 1 treath and thats 20 juds. Would love 2 treaths atleast:)

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6 hours ago, Juicy said:

i found that xbolt judicators dont work well with a lord relictor but bow judicators are awsome. Its cause of the range so would keep the bow dudes. I like how the new points make this list possible but i dont think its strong cause its 1 treath and thats 20 juds. Would love 2 treaths atleast:)

Thanks for your input. Yes, it's only one threat on the table, alas, there's not much to be done when we try to take battalions for less drops possible!
IF drops aren't a concern then it could be working as a different list. There's around 500 points that could be spent on a second threat unit, but then, we have more drops and if we go for more drops route, then why not go Starcast ^^

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Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals

Leaders
Lord-Relictor (100)
- Artefact: Soulthief
- Prayer: Bless Weapons
Lord-Arcanum on Tauralon (280)
- General
- Command Trait: Deathly Aura
- Celestial Staves (Artefact): Staff of Azyr
- Spell: Azyrite Halo
- Mount Trait: Steel Pinions
Lord-Exorcist (90)
- Spell: Lightning Blast

Battleline
5 x Liberators (90)
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x Grandhammers
5 x Liberators (90)
- Warhammer & Shield
- 1x Grandhammers
20 x Judicators (560)
- Skybolt Bows
- 4x Shockbolt Bows

Units
20 x Phoenix Guard (320)
3 x Prosecutors with Stormcall Javelins (90)
- 1x Stormsurge Tridents
3 x Prosecutors with Stormcall Javelins (90)
- 1x Stormsurge Tridents
3 x Prosecutors with Stormcall Javelins (90)
- 1x Stormsurge Tridents

Battalions
Vanguard Wing (140)

Endless Spells / Terrain / CPs
Emerald Lifeswarm (50)

Total: 1990 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 1
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 118

 

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@Maturin Have you tested it? Do you actualy menaged effectivly fly over and over with tauralon? 

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2 hours ago, Nizrah said:

@Maturin Have you tested it? Do you actualy menaged effectivly fly over and over with tauralon? 

I tried a 20PG unit against IJ backed by 2*10 Handgunners during a 1500game a few month ago. It survives thé charge of a Mawcrusha and a 6man GoreGunta unit, but hé had shot thé Handgunners behind. I then raides 6of them. You should have Seen his face( COS HH). So even in an SCE liste it Can bé powerful, especially with th -1 to be hit. Concerning thé Tauralon, I didn't play it yet because of the Covid. Maybe you could try on-line ?

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I've made a wonky list on paper. Goes like this :

 

Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals

LEADERS

Lord-Aquilor (170) - General

Celestial Hurricanum With Celestial Battlemage (280) - Allies

 

UNITS

18 x Castigators (420)

18 x Castigators (420)

5 x Vanguard-Hunters (100) - Boltstorm Pistols and Shock Handaxes

5 x Vanguard-Hunters (100) - Boltstorm Pistols and Shock Handaxes

5 x Vanguard-Hunters (100) - Boltstorm Pistols and Shock Handaxes

 

ARTILLERY

Celestar Ballista (110)

Celestar Ballista (110)

 

BATTALIONS

Soulstrike Brotherhood (120)

 

TOTAL: 1930/2000

 

So... the Soulstrike Brotherhood give +1  ranged attack to any sacrosant unit that turn if ANY unit from the vanguard hunter is on the battlefield when they drop. With that in mind, that mean that each Castigator unit will be shooting 36 attacks.

 

With the Hurricanum in range, that could mean 36 attacks, 2+ to hit (re-roll 1 for good measure), 3+ to wound, -2 rend (with castigator Aetheric Channeling). The two balistas are only here for grazy.

 

Efficient shooting? Check.

Wonky list? Check.

Efficient? Probably not. 😄

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Hurricanum in CoS only. You might try a Tauralon but likely loose it after the first fly over :P

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