Maturin Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) Behold, my shiny and exotic creations! So I've got a few models I want to try, like the Errant Questor that I bought second hand (it means it's well painted ha!), so i'm going to lay down silly lists with silly combos mixed in with some less silly stuff. Feel free to chime in! Edited July 8, 2020 by Maturin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals- Stormhost: Anvils of the HeldenhammerLeadersLord-Relictor (100)- Prayer: Bless WeaponsCelestant-Prime (340)- GeneralErrant-Questor (140)- Artefact: Soutlhief. LCast shines on him or Prime depending on the situation - Acts a wound reserve for the primes or go tanking alone.Lord-Castellant (120)- Mystic Light (Artefact): Fury Brand Fury brand on the Prime for moar damage.Knight-Incantor (140)Battleline5 x Liberators (100)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandhammers5 x Liberators (100)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandhammers20 x Judicators (640)- Skybolt Bows- 4x Shockbolt BowsUnits3 x Prosecutors with Stormcall Javelins (90)- 1x Stormsurge Tridents3 x Prosecutors with Stormcall Javelins (90)- 1x Stormsurge Tridents3 x Prosecutors with Stormcall Javelins (90)- 1x Stormsurge TridentsBattalionsVanguard Wing (140)Endless Spells / Terrain / CPsExtra Command Point (50)Total: 2140 / 2000Extra Command Points: 2Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 107 The goal of this one is to play the exploding D2 dices game, twice per turn. Edited July 8, 2020 by Maturin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) The "Oh, you got a one drop list ? That's cute". Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals- Stormhost: Anvils of the HeldenhammerLord-Celestant (100)- General- Command Trait: Deathly Aura - Artefact: Soulthief Knight-Azyros (100)- Mystic Light (Artefact): Lantern of the Tempest5 x Liberators (100)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandhammers5 x Liberators (100)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandhammers5 x Liberators (100)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandhammers5 x Judicators (160)- Boltstorm Crossbows- 1x Thunderbolt Crossbows20 x Judicators (640)- Skybolt Bows- 4x Shockbolt Bows9 x Prosecutors with Stormcall Javelins (270)- 3x Stormsurge Tridents5 x Protectors (180)- 2x Starsoul Maces5 x Protectors (180)- 2x Starsoul MacesWarrior Brotherhood (180)Total: 2130 / 2000Extra Command Points: 1Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 139 Clocks in at 1970 points when all reductions applied. 1 drop army, but you're not forced to drop them altogether, you can have some of them starting on the table. If you're not facing a 1 drop army, you could : - give your opponent first turn. Depending on what he's got on the table and if he can make a T1 charge or not, you can just leave the judicators and prosecutors on the table. He moves, you shoot him in your hero phase with the two units. then you drop accordingly your melee units. - you take first turn, you drop everything on his face at an advantageous position, trying to apply maximum pressure with shooting, then charge, between shooting and melee + bravery debuff, it's going to be funky for his battleshock tests. The "Oh you've got a one drop list, that's cute, melee version" : Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals- Stormhost: Celestial VindicatorsLeadersLord-Celestant (100)- General- Command Trait: Single-minded Fury - Artefact: Armor of Silvered Sigmarite Knight-Vexillor (120)- Pennant of the Stormbringer- Artefact: Stormrage Blade Battleline5 x Liberators (100)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandhammers5 x Liberators (100)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandhammers5 x Liberators (100)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandhammers5 x Judicators (160)- Boltstorm Crossbows- 1x Thunderbolt Crossbows5 x Judicators (160)- Boltstorm Crossbows- 1x Thunderbolt CrossbowsUnits10 x Decimators (360)3 x Prosecutors with Stormcall Javelins (90)- 1x Stormsurge Tridents15 x Protectors (540)BattalionsWarrior Brotherhood (180)Endless Spells / Terrain / CPsExtra Command Point (50)Total: 2060 / 2000Extra Command Points: 2Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 141 Edited July 8, 2020 by Maturin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) The "I'm gonna wreck you from afar before my big hammer dude comes and say hello" list Allegiance: Stormcast EternalsLeadersLord-Celestant (100)- General- Command Trait: Deathly Aura - Artefact: Armor of Silvered Sigmarite Lord-Ordinator (140)- Artefact: Soulthief Celestant-Prime (340)Battleline5 x Liberators (100)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandhammers5 x Liberators (100)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandhammers5 x Judicators (160)- Skybolt Bows- 2x Shockbolt Bows5 x Judicators (160)- Skybolt Bows- 2x Shockbolt BowsUnits5 x Decimators (180)5 x Protectors (180)3 x Aetherwings (50)ArtilleryCelestar Ballista (110)Celestar Ballista (110)Celestar Ballista (110)Celestar Ballista (110)BattalionsSkyborne Slayers (190)Total: 2140 / 2000Extra Command Points: 1Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 122 Clocks in at 2000 points after reductions. libs, juds aetherwings on the table so you can deepstrike balistas + LO. That list is maximum swing! No innate rerolls. Use at your own risks and perils. Edited July 7, 2020 by Maturin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) A two drop list, melee oriented! Allegiance: Stormcast EternalsLeadersLord-Celestant (100)- General- Command Trait: Staunch Defender - Artefact: Armor of Silvered Sigmarite Battleline5 x Liberators (100)- Warhammers- 1x Grandhammers5 x Liberators (100)- Warhammers- 1x Grandhammers5 x Judicators (160)- Boltstorm Crossbows- 1x Thunderbolt Crossbows5 x Judicators (160)- Boltstorm Crossbows- 1x Thunderbolt CrossbowsUnits2 x Concussors (240)2 x Concussors (240)2 x Desolators (200)2 x Desolators (200)5 x Decimators (180)5 x Protectors (180)BattalionsSkyborne Slayers (190)Thunderwave Echelon (100)Total: 2150 / 2000Extra Command Points: 2Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 115 Edited July 8, 2020 by Maturin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) A three drop "HAVE YOU SEEN MY PET STARDRAKE" list (also called by myself only : A cheap Starcast knockout) : Allegiance: Stormcast EternalsLeadersLord-Celestant on Stardrake (500)- General- Celestine Hammer- Command Trait: Staunch Defender - Artefact: Mirrorshield - Mount Trait: Storm-wingedLord-Castellant (120)- Mystic Light (Artefact): Fury BrandLord-Relictor (100)- Prayer: TranslocationKnight-Heraldor (120)- Meteoric StandardKnight-Vexillor (120)- Meteoric Standard- Treasured Standard (Artefact): Lichebone StandardKnight-Heraldor (120)Battleline5 x Liberators (100)- Warhammers- 1x Grandhammers5 x Liberators (100)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandhammers5 x Judicators (160)- Skybolt Bows- 1x Shockbolt BowsUnits6 x Prosecutors with Stormcall Javelins (180)- 1x Stormsurge Tridents3 x Prosecutors with Stormcall Javelins (90)- 1x Stormsurge Tridents3 x Prosecutors with Stormcall Javelins (90)- 1x Stormsurge TridentsBattalionsLords of the Storm (140)Vanguard Wing (140)Total: 2060 / 2000Extra Command Points: 2Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 96 1990 points. The goal of that one is to hope the enemy is going to bunker up. Then rain down upon him all of Sigmar's wrath, either T1 or T2 ( 3 vexillors = possible 9 MW in a 2D6 range, albeit just once). Heraldors could aso be used instead of Vexillors since their worth doesn't degrade after seeing use. Furthermore, their shooting ability takes place in the movement phase, so you can deepstrike them then use your ability, which is depending on terrain ( sad face). Edited July 9, 2020 by Maturin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) A two drop list based on Skyborne slayers.Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals- Stormhost: Anvils of the HeldenhammerMortal Realm: ShyishLeadersLord-Celestant (100)- Artefact: Armor of Silvered Sigmarite Lord-Arcanum on Tauralon (320)- General- Command Trait: Deathly Aura - Artefact: Soulthief - Spell: Celestial Blades- Mount Trait: Steel PinionsBattleline10 x Judicators (320)- Boltstorm Crossbows- 2x Thunderbolt Crossbows20 x Judicators (640)- Skybolt Bows- 4x Shockbolt Bows5 x Liberators (100)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandhammers5 x Liberators (100)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x GrandhammersUnits5 x Protectors (180)- 2x Starsoul Maces5 x Decimators (180)- 2x Starsoul MacesBattalionsSkyborne Slayers (190)Total: 2130 / 2000Extra Command Points: 1Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 125 Clocks in at 1990 points. Tauralon to boost shooting hit chance by +1. Another possibility would be to remove 5 judicators, and take a relictor instead for "Bless weapons". Edited July 8, 2020 by Maturin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) Allegiance: OrderMortal Realm: ShyishLeadersLord-Celestant on Stardrake (500) => D6 targets, 4+ = D3MW in the shooting phase.- General- Celestine Hammer- Command Trait: Legendary Fighter- Artefact: Phoenix StoneLord-Exorcist (120) =>casts cometsLord-Exorcist (120) => casts somethingArchmage Teclis and Celennar, Spirit of Hysh (660) => Casts 5++ in 18" to everybody. Casts Umbral, casts His damage spell and mystic shield on someone.Battleline10 x Vanari Auralan Wardens (120) => help in casting an endless spell10 x Vanari Auralan Wardens (120) => same10 x Vanari Auralan Wardens (120) => sameEndless Spells / Terrain / CPsEverblaze Comet (100)Umbral Spellportal (70)Soulscream Bridge (80)Quicksilver Swords (30)Malevolent Maelstrom (10)Total: 2050 / 2000Extra Command Points: 0Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 72 Edited July 10, 2020 by Maturin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals- Stormhost: Hammers of SigmarLeadersVandus Hammerhand (260)- General- Mount Trait: Keen-clawedLord-Castellant (120)- Artefact: God-forged Blade Lord-Relictor (100)- Prayer: Bless WeaponsKnight-Azyros (100)Knight-Vexillor (110)- Pennant of the Stormbringer- Treasured Standard (Artefact): Lichebone StandardKnight-Vexillor (110)- Pennant of the StormbringerBattleline5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandhammers5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandhammers5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x GrandhammersUnits3 x Aetherwings (40)20 x Protectors (680)- 4x Starsoul MacesBattalionsLords of the Storm (130)Endless Spells / Terrain / CPsExtra Command Point (50)Total: 1970 / 2000Extra Command Points: 2Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 129@Nizrah What about this list? Edited August 3, 2020 by Maturin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) Awaiting list Edited July 8, 2020 by Maturin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted July 7, 2020 Author Share Posted July 7, 2020 (edited) awaiting list Edited July 8, 2020 by Maturin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted July 8, 2020 Author Share Posted July 8, 2020 So I have been trying to make up some lists using models I own and battalions available. Everybody is rightfully afraid of our heroes being sniped by either MW or high volume shooting with the recent armies. What could we do to prevent that ? One way to do it is to have a one drop army list. So far we've got usable at 2000 points : - Vanguard mega battalion. But no magic. No priest either, Azyros for rr1. Seems like the most powerful. - Skyborne Slayers. +1 to hit bubble with LC, no magic, no priest. - Warrior brotherhood. +1 to hit bubble with LC, no magic, no priest but AZyros for rr1, or Vexilor/Heraldor/Venator. One of the problem we face is that if we play one of those one drop list, we're stuck with a very thematic and restrained chamber. All of them lack access to support (magic, prayers) if you want a one drop army. Can we get a two drop army to do that ? Nope. So our only way to have a mix of this stuff is to go for a three or four drop list or go the full "we don't care about our drops list", right ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcvs Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, Maturin said: Can we get a two drop army to do that ? Nope. So our only way to have a mix of this stuff is to go for a three or four drop list or go the full "we don't care about our drops list", right ? You can go for 2 drops with Skyborne slayers and add an incantor / a veritant / a kroak -but then you are practically only running MSUs, so don't know if that's viable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted July 8, 2020 Author Share Posted July 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, Marcvs said: You can go for 2 drops with Skyborne slayers and add an incantor / a veritant / a kroak -but then you are practically only running MSUs, so don't know if that's viable Check out the last list posted in here. 20 Judicators +10 Judicators and a Tauralon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcvs Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Maturin said: Check out the last list posted in here. 20 Judicators +10 Judicators and a Tauralon. Yeah, not sure about the choice of the tauralon (the +1 flyover is quite difficult to use in practice and generally means suicide ), but I agree with general idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted July 8, 2020 Author Share Posted July 8, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Marcvs said: Yeah, not sure about the choice of the tauralon (the +1 flyover is quite difficult to use in practice and generally means suicide ), but I agree with general idea Yeah. It's either a Tauralon for +1 to hit, or a relictor for exploding dices on 6. But the exploding dices are less interesting outside a Vanguard Wing. But then, we're at 3/4 drops, not two. Edited July 8, 2020 by Maturin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted July 10, 2020 Author Share Posted July 10, 2020 Just for giggles, added a bunker GA : Order list. Like a CoS HH one, but with less synergy albeit with TECLIS! What do you guys think ? Enough screens to withstand a turn 1 Changehost then retaliate ? Would it be better to switch to liberators knowing those wardens will surely end dead ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted July 15, 2020 Author Share Posted July 15, 2020 (edited) Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals- Stormhost: Anvils of the HeldenhammerMortal Realm: ChamonLeadersLord-Celestant on Dracoth (200)- General- Tempestos Hammer & Thundershield- Command Trait: Deathly Aura - Artefact: Plate of Perfect Protection - Mount Trait: Keen-clawedLord-Castellant (120)- Artefact: Soulthief - Mystic Light (Artefact): Lantern of the TempestLord-Relictor (100)- Prayer: Bless WeaponsKnight-Azyros (100)- Mystic Light (Artefact): Lantern of the TempestKnight-Heraldor (100)Knight-Heraldor (100)Battleline5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandhammers5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammers- 1x Grandhammers20 x Judicators (560)- Skybolt Bows- 4x Shockbolt BowsUnits3 x Prosecutors with Stormcall Javelins (90)- 1x Stormsurge Tridents3 x Prosecutors with Stormcall Javelins (90)- 1x Stormsurge Tridents3 x Prosecutors with Stormcall Javelins (90)- 1x Stormsurge TridentsBattalionsVanguard Wing (140)Lords of the Storm (130)Total: 2000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 2Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 111 LCoD is 2+ with LC's light, reroll 1's, ignore rend 1. Relictor can heal LCoD and cast bless weapons on judicators. Castellant protects (like the Emperor) with the reroll unmodified 6's to hit during shooting phase. Heraldors are droped where convenient for D3MW fuckery. Alternative would be to swap one heraldor for vexilor but to do that you need to downgrade the LCoD to a LC. If you do then crossbows judi over bolts one because TP would mean no problem with range. 3 drops so there's a good chance you'd go first and wreck faces. Quite mobile for objective taking with the Prosecutors. What do you guys think ? Edited July 15, 2020 by Maturin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juicy Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 i found that xbolt judicators dont work well with a lord relictor but bow judicators are awsome. Its cause of the range so would keep the bow dudes. I like how the new points make this list possible but i dont think its strong cause its 1 treath and thats 20 juds. Would love 2 treaths atleast:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted July 15, 2020 Author Share Posted July 15, 2020 6 hours ago, Juicy said: i found that xbolt judicators dont work well with a lord relictor but bow judicators are awsome. Its cause of the range so would keep the bow dudes. I like how the new points make this list possible but i dont think its strong cause its 1 treath and thats 20 juds. Would love 2 treaths atleast:) Thanks for your input. Yes, it's only one threat on the table, alas, there's not much to be done when we try to take battalions for less drops possible! IF drops aren't a concern then it could be working as a different list. There's around 500 points that could be spent on a second threat unit, but then, we have more drops and if we go for more drops route, then why not go Starcast ^^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted August 13, 2020 Author Share Posted August 13, 2020 Allegiance: Stormcast EternalsLeadersLord-Relictor (100)- Artefact: Soulthief - Prayer: Bless WeaponsLord-Arcanum on Tauralon (280)- General- Command Trait: Deathly Aura - Celestial Staves (Artefact): Staff of Azyr- Spell: Azyrite Halo- Mount Trait: Steel PinionsLord-Exorcist (90)- Spell: Lightning BlastBattleline5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandhammers5 x Liberators (90)- Warhammer & Shield- 1x Grandhammers20 x Judicators (560)- Skybolt Bows- 4x Shockbolt BowsUnits20 x Phoenix Guard (320)3 x Prosecutors with Stormcall Javelins (90)- 1x Stormsurge Tridents3 x Prosecutors with Stormcall Javelins (90)- 1x Stormsurge Tridents3 x Prosecutors with Stormcall Javelins (90)- 1x Stormsurge TridentsBattalionsVanguard Wing (140)Endless Spells / Terrain / CPsEmerald Lifeswarm (50)Total: 1990 / 2000Extra Command Points: 1Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 118 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nizrah Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 @Maturin Have you tested it? Do you actualy menaged effectivly fly over and over with tauralon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maturin Posted August 13, 2020 Author Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Nizrah said: @Maturin Have you tested it? Do you actualy menaged effectivly fly over and over with tauralon? I tried a 20PG unit against IJ backed by 2*10 Handgunners during a 1500game a few month ago. It survives thé charge of a Mawcrusha and a 6man GoreGunta unit, but hé had shot thé Handgunners behind. I then raides 6of them. You should have Seen his face( COS HH). So even in an SCE liste it Can bé powerful, especially with th -1 to be hit. Concerning thé Tauralon, I didn't play it yet because of the Covid. Maybe you could try on-line ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ggg Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 I've made a wonky list on paper. Goes like this : Allegiance: Stormcast Eternals LEADERS Lord-Aquilor (170) - General Celestial Hurricanum With Celestial Battlemage (280) - Allies UNITS 18 x Castigators (420) 18 x Castigators (420) 5 x Vanguard-Hunters (100) - Boltstorm Pistols and Shock Handaxes 5 x Vanguard-Hunters (100) - Boltstorm Pistols and Shock Handaxes 5 x Vanguard-Hunters (100) - Boltstorm Pistols and Shock Handaxes ARTILLERY Celestar Ballista (110) Celestar Ballista (110) BATTALIONS Soulstrike Brotherhood (120) TOTAL: 1930/2000 So... the Soulstrike Brotherhood give +1 ranged attack to any sacrosant unit that turn if ANY unit from the vanguard hunter is on the battlefield when they drop. With that in mind, that mean that each Castigator unit will be shooting 36 attacks. With the Hurricanum in range, that could mean 36 attacks, 2+ to hit (re-roll 1 for good measure), 3+ to wound, -2 rend (with castigator Aetheric Channeling). The two balistas are only here for grazy. Efficient shooting? Check. Wonky list? Check. Efficient? Probably not. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucur Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Hurricanum in CoS only. You might try a Tauralon but likely loose it after the first fly over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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