Fight at the start of combat vs get engaged mid of combat

[AndyPa]

Hi all,

I've got a question (obviously...):

For example one player has the S2D-DaemonPrince on the field 8" of an enemy Khorgos Khul. Start of combat is over and the Daemon Prince is not able to fight. Khorgos Khul can still be picked because of his ability and is able to pile in and attack.

Does the Daemon Prince fight back?

 

Abilites:
Daemon Prince:
Immortal Champion: This model fights at the start of the combat phase. This model cannot fight again in that phase unless an ability or spell allows it to fight more than once.

Khorgos Khul:
Aqshy’s Bane: This model is eligible to fight in the combat phase if it is within 8" of an enemy unit instead of 3", and can move an extra 5" when it piles in.

[T10]

The AoS designers commentary says this:

Q: Some abilities say that a unit fights at the start of the combat phase. What happens if that unit is not within 3" of the enemy, but later in the phase an enemy unit piles in to within 3" of it?

A: A unit that can fight at the start of the combat phase but does not do so is allowed to fight normally during the combat phase should an enemy unit move to within 3" of it.

Then again, the Commentary also includes this pile of ox manure, so they may be talking out of their donkeys in general.

Q: Let’s say Unit A has been made to fight at the end of the combat phase. If, when Unit A fights at the end of the combat phase, its pile-in move results in Unit B being eligible to fight when previously it wasn’t, because Unit B was outside 3", can Unit B now pile in and attack?

A: If Unit A is from the army of the player whose turn is taking place, then Unit B will be able to fight (as its opportunity to fight comes after that of Unit A, and it will be eligible to fight because it is within 3" of the enemy). If, on the other hand, Unit A is part of the army belonging to the player whose turn is not taking place, then Unit B will not be able to fight (as its opportunity to fight came before that of Unit A, when it was not within 3" of the enemy).

So in one case it's ok for your unit to fight later even though "it's moment" has passed, but in the other case the opportunity to fight is lost altogether, just to conform to their made-up "I fight last, you fight last" policy.

Edited March 19, 2020 by T10

[JackStreicher]

2 minutes ago, AndyPa said:

But he does strike back, right?

Yes he does since he becomes eligible to be picked to fight once an enemy is within 3“

Edited March 18, 2020 by JackStreicher

[JackStreicher]

the daemon prince will strike after Khorgos Kul.

Edited March 18, 2020 by JackStreicher

[AndyPa]

2 minutes ago, JackStreicher said:

No the daemon prince will strike after Khorgos Kul.

But he does strike back, right?