Duke of Gisoreux Posted February 9, 2020 Author Share Posted February 9, 2020 There's already a battle report using the new allegiance: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roark Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) Sorry to be that guy but are the rules for this allegiance summarised anywhere in writing? I can only find bits and pieces. EDIT: Never mind. Found them on the War of Sigmar blog. Edited February 9, 2020 by Roark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleeperAgent Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 Rerolling Ones is really good, but damn why didn't' he try to summon more demons after turn 1? Yeah you might take some mortal wounds but you get 10 or more wounds back in models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darksider Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 14 hours ago, Hannibal said: The Mark of Nurgle does nothing for the list. In fact, Mark of Khorne would be much better because you can get an additional shooting phase then. @all: What are the benefits of Legion of Chaos Ascendant? Why not just Grand Alliance Chaos instead? Thx for the reply. Yeah mark of Khorne is better, you're right. Benefit is that you can summon daemons each turn, that your daemons get a 6+ fnp and if you take Belakor with the standard daemons you get some boni on top of that. You also get your own command traits and artifacts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darksider Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, Hannibal said: Edited February 9, 2020 by Darksider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decker_cky Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 19 hours ago, Darksider said: Thx for the reply. Yeah mark of Khorne is better, you're right. Benefit is that you can summon daemons each turn, that your daemons get a 6+ fnp and if you take Belakor with the standard daemons you get some boni on top of that. You also get your own command traits and artifacts. Interestingly, legion of the first prince doesn't require belakor (ability and command ability do) and doesn't require belakor to be general (very strong command ability does). There's no forced command trait and magic item like most subfactions. If you don't want belakor, might as well take it for the free bonus spell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PainfullyMediocre Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 (edited) I had a think about this army while doing some tedious jobs at work. The summoning potential seems insane, If you put 3 Gaunt Summoners in you can pump out 40 Pink Horrors turn 1, then 10 more each turn. Throw in Bel'akor and Karanak for debuffs and a bit more summoning, 1x10 man unit of Bloodletters, Plaguebearers and Daemonettes for Bel'akor to hang around with. 9 Bloodcrushers to use the command ability on, that leaves 180 points spare. Its stupid and not something i'd ever do, just a bit of fun to think about. Edited February 10, 2020 by PainfullyMediocre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moogoodoo Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Does this mean you can use the chaos dwarf daemons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke of Gisoreux Posted February 12, 2020 Author Share Posted February 12, 2020 14 hours ago, Moogoodoo said: Does this mean you can use the chaos dwarf daemons? K'Daai Fireborn? Yes, why not. They have both the CHAOS and DAEMON keywords. Btw. I created a Battletome Cover for the Legion of Chaos Ascendant as there is no regular Battletome: 2 2 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firtahl Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 I've been playing with list ideas for Be'Lakor. In particular ive been looking for ways to use some of my favorite under powered models. Here is a list that uses skull cannons. The hope is that in combination with Be'Lakor's ability to bring back D3 models with the bloodletter keyword, the cannons will keep coming back. The gaunt summoner will also allow the list to put out some pink horrors that also combo well with the D3 models getting returned. Plaguebearers are there to soak wounds for Be'Lakor. Trashy list? yes. Lets you kill models and shoot thier skulls back at them? also yes. Let me know if you have any good ideas how to use skull cannons you think would work better then below. Allegiance: Legion of Chaos Ascendant- Host of Chaos: Legion of the First PrinceMortal Realm: HyshLeadersBe'Lakor (240)- General- Spell: Echo of HatredSkulltaker (120)Bloodmaster, Herald of Khorne (80)Gaunt Summoner on Disc of Tzeentch (260)- Artefact: Aetherquartz Brooch- Spell: Bolt of RuinBattleline10 x Plaguebearers (120)20 x Bloodletters (220)10 x Bloodletters (110)Units3 x Skull Cannons (390)3 x Skull Cannons (390)Endless Spells / Terrain / CPsExtra Command Point (50)Total: 1980 / 2000Extra Command Points: 1Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 105 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus The Blue Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Ok, putting together my first list. Using a combination of Tzeetch and Slannesh. Mainly because I love the Slannesh Battalion and feel Tzeentch compliments it well. Legion of the First Prince Be'lakor- General The Contorted Epitome- Fourfold Blade Keeper of Secrets- Armour of the Pact Fateskimmer 10 Daemonettes 10 Daemonettes 10 Pink Horrors 5 Seekers * 4 Host of the Depraved (all Slaanesh units) Wheels of Excrutiation Feels like Seekers will be hard to deal with, 6 3+/3+ attacks each when charging with Soulhunters active, two spells that make them fight on death and a command ability that brings them back! Epitome has a lot of synergies being the best summoner available to us (although can't summon horrors how are obviously the best summonable). 9 attacks with 4 foul blade and the strike last ability. Keeper feels reasonably tanky with reroll to save, 6++ and probably the hand to regenerate wounds. Only 4 drops too. Thoughts/comments welcome 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olmdebil Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Allegiance: Legion of Chaos Ascendant- Host of Chaos: Legion of the First PrinceLeadersGreat Unclean One (340)- Plague Flail & Massive BileswordPoxbringer Herald of Nurgle (120)Poxbringer Herald of Nurgle (120)Be'Lakor (240)Battleline30 x Plaguebearers (320)30 x Plaguebearers (320)10 x Plaguebearers (120)10 x Plaguebearers (120)BattalionsTallyband of Nurgle (160)Endless Spells / Terrain / CPsEmerald Lifeswarm (50)Prismatic Palisade (30)Geminids of Uhl-Gysh (60)Total: 2000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 1Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 114 Is it legal to use an nurgle battalion here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 29 minutes ago, Olmdebil said: Allegiance: Legion of Chaos Ascendant- Host of Chaos: Legion of the First PrinceBattalionsTallyband of Nurgle (160) Is it legal to use an nurgle battalion here? I do not think so, because it is a Maggotkin of Nurgle Battalion. Another question: What allies are allowed to use? I can´t find any information in my battletome. Do I overlook something? Last question: Do you see any outstanding synergies within this faction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan I Guess Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 So who do we think are the best battleline for this army? Plaguebearers get the minuses to hit, daemonettes are fast, and I think bloodletters are only great with buffs from BoK stuff. I think I like Daemonettes most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tato492 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 7 hours ago, Bryan I Guess said: So who do we think are the best battleline for this army? Plaguebearers get the minuses to hit, daemonettes are fast, and I think bloodletters are only great with buffs from BoK stuff. I think I like Daemonettes most. I think, maybe pink horrors are the best, because, they shooting, split in blue horrors, and with the legion of the first prince, you can return pink horrors. It's my opinion. 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan I Guess Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 6 hours ago, tato492 said: I think, maybe pink horrors are the best, because, they shooting, split in blue horrors, and with the legion of the first prince, you can return pink horrors. It's my opinion. 😊 I thought horrors weren't battleline options. At least Azyr doesn't include them in the battleline section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecktron Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Bryan I Guess said: I thought horrors weren't battleline options. At least Azyr doesn't include them in the battleline section. Horrors are a unconditional battleline unit. Edited February 17, 2020 by Gecktron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan I Guess Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Got it! You've got to pick a color on Azyr. Then it fixes itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roark Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Here's my trash list! One drop. Everyone rerolls charges. Virtually no magic defence. The Thirsters are very durable if they stay together and the Crushers deliver buckets of MWs after charging. 😛 Allegiance: Legion of Chaos AscendantMortal Realm: AqshyWrath of Khorne Bloodthirster (300)- General- Command Trait: Ruinous Aura- Artefact: Ignax's ScalesBloodthirster of Insensate Rage (270)- Artefact: Armour of the Pact10 x Bloodletters (110)10 x Bloodletters (110)10 x Bloodletters (110)10 x Bloodletters (110)10 x Bloodletters (110)6 x Bloodcrushers (240)6 x Bloodcrushers (240)6 x Bloodcrushers (240)Host of Rage (160)Total: 2000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 1Wounds: 150 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus The Blue Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Going to be rocking the Legion of The First Prince tonight. Mostly trying stuff out, so don't expect it to be hugely competitive: Be'lakor- General, Bolt of Ruin Contorted Epitomie- fourfold blade, Echo of Hatred The Masque 2 * 10 Daemonettes 10 Pink Horrors 4*5 Seekers 2 Soul Grinders Host of the Deprived (all Slannesh units). I'm hoping the Seekers will be able to pull a lot of weight between the battalion bonus, two strike after death spells and Be'lakors awesome command trait returning models in both players turns! The Soul Grinder don't fit with the list very well, but they have just been build, so I want to get them on the battlefield. Battle report coming tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldarain Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Beginner question. Can we use all the god specific Battalions in Chaos Ascendant? I am kinda confused when it comes to the faction of battalions. There was a similar issue before the Everchosen book was rolled into Slaves with using Plaguetouched in Nurgle allegiance. In the new Slaves book it specifies the godmarked battalions are both Slaves faction and *god* faction. Any clarity would be much appreciated as I might just not be reading a specific entry somewhere that clears it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus The Blue Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 57 minutes ago, Eldarain said: Beginner question. Can we use all the god specific Battalions in Chaos Ascendant? I am kinda confused when it comes to the faction of battalions. There was a similar issue before the Everchosen book was rolled into Slaves with using Plaguetouched in Nurgle allegiance. In the new Slaves book it specifies the godmarked battalions are both Slaves faction and *god* faction. Any clarity would be much appreciated as I might just not be reading a specific entry somewhere that clears it up. As it stands, no. Legion of Chaos Assendent is a new allegiance, so can only use allegiance specific battalions (the four in the Wrath book). Hopefully they will FAQ is so we can and the Legion battalions can be used in the god specific allegiances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roark Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 It's... a little frustrating that Legions is the one allegiance beyond basic Chaos that draws multiple gods' units together, but only offers mono-god battalions. Ah well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peegee Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 Hi guys! I loooove the new book and I've started playing around lists. I'm at this state right now: Allegiance: Legion of Chaos Ascendant - Host of Chaos: Legion of the First Prince Leaders Be'Lakor (240) - General Verminlord Corruptor (280) - NURGLE -(Artefact that deals D3 MW on 5+ to hit) Slaves to Darkness Daemon Prince (210) - KHORNE The Blue Scribes (120) - TZEENTCH Gaunt Summoner of Tzeentch (240) - TZEENTCH Battleline 10 x Pink Horrors of Tzeentch (200) 10 x Pink Horrors of Tzeentch (200) 30 x Plaguebearers (320) Total: 1810 / 2000 Extra Command Points: 0 Allies: 0 / 400 Wounds: 88 I don't know what to add, if I should go for Endless or try to squeeze in a Slaanesh Hero. I feel like only summoning Pinks in most games so... Anyway if you have ideas or feedback, I'd take it! Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Peegee said: Hi guys! I loooove the new book and I've started playing around lists. I'm at this state right now: Allegiance: Legion of Chaos Ascendant - Host of Chaos: Legion of the First Prince Leaders Be'Lakor (240) - General Verminlord Corruptor (280) - NURGLE -(Artefact that deals D3 MW on 5+ to hit) Slaves to Darkness Daemon Prince (210) - KHORNE The Blue Scribes (120) - TZEENTCH Gaunt Summoner of Tzeentch (240) - TZEENTCH Battleline 10 x Pink Horrors of Tzeentch (200) 10 x Pink Horrors of Tzeentch (200) 30 x Plaguebearers (320) Total: 1810 / 2000 Extra Command Points: 0 Allies: 0 / 400 Wounds: 88 I don't know what to add, if I should go for Endless or try to squeeze in a Slaanesh Hero. I feel like only summoning Pinks in most games so... Anyway if you have ideas or feedback, I'd take it! Cheers! I think I´d drop one unit of Pinks and instead get 6 Flamers + Exalted Flamer. They won´t be as good as under DoT Rules, but they still dish out a lot of damage at range. Other than that there is an endless spell in the StD range which everyone is talking about. Daemonrift ... (???) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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