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Aos 2 - Lumineth Realm-Lords Discussion

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39 minutes ago, LuminethMage said:

Probably next week will also be mainly about 40K, but I do hope we get some focus on the Lumineth - and it’s finally their week in the first place  ... . Don’t be sad if there is nothing else, both the WD article and one of the writers on Soulbound basically said that’s all we’ll get now in terms of units. 

Luckily when they had they talked about the Lumineth in the preview it did it sound like they were totally on the Vulkan trip. They’ll likely have that a bit, or a bit of a Buddhist influence, but it looks like they are still struggling with that. Will be interesting to see the details about that. 

man, it is hard to write a faction of nothing but Spocks. Gonna have to see how the novel does it to be honest, but I'm excited to see how it's done. I do wonder if the aetherquarts wears off over time and makes the Lumineth more depressive / volitile, or if it's a permanent effect. I know the Cathaller exists, but I have to see how it's done.  I hope the novel fleshes this out a bit more... and doesn't turn into another court of the blind king bout of narrative dissonance between novel and battletome.

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I’m expecting next week to be one of, if not both of, the last 2 campaign 40k books, and discussing 9th edition in more depth. I don’t think we’ll see Lumineth until later in the month, after the campaign books are all done.

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7 hours ago, Acid_Nine said:

man, it is hard to write a faction of nothing but Spocks. Gonna have to see how the novel does it to be honest, but I'm excited to see how it's done. I do wonder if the aetherquarts wears off over time and makes the Lumineth more depressive / volitile, or if it's a permanent effect. I know the Cathaller exists, but I have to see how it's done.  I hope the novel fleshes this out a bit more... and doesn't turn into another court of the blind king bout of narrative dissonance between novel and battletome.

Oops I had spelling mistake there, I wanted to write it “didn’t sound like”. I agree, if they would be nothing but Spocks it wouldn’t be much fun. I don’t think that’s what it will look like, maybe only for some of them. I’m also really interested on how the aetherquartz effect is depicted and how the bonding with the elemental spirits works, and the whole Teclian culture. If the novel is very different, there will also be an RPG book which focuses on them in Q3 which should flesh things out. 

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So there’s a potential leak that the last 40k campaign book and 9th Ed are coming out in July, so we may see Lumineth quite soon, possibly even next. So fingers crossed we get an article tonight about our pre-order next week.

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Quite excited for them to be released. I have quite a few old High Elf units, Spire of Dawn being the source of most of them. If I counts-as my Reavers as the Lumineth Cavalry, put together the dragon princes I've had for a while, and with the Lumineth Box, that'll be 15 cavalry. 20 spears with the Sea guard counting as the Lumineth spears, and 10 Alarith counts as with the Swordsmasters. Are the Lumineth on 32mm bases? If so, I'll be alright to rebase them but the old models look a little small on 32mm. 

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Looks like they will be on 32mm, yeah. To fill the space you’ll have to make some epic scenic bases!

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Can't believe they dedicated a whole week to Aeronautica Imperialis after the shutdown. I know I'm salty, but can't believe many people wanted it, I was prepared for another 40k week but man, this feels bad, if the most unsuccessful specialist game is prioritised before Lumineth, it can take far longed that I hoped.

They could at least release the army box and latter the army like they did with sisters

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What I can't understand is the complete lack of articles/information not only on the Lumineth, but on AoS in general. I play 40k, and I love it, but even though you are releasing the new edition soon, shouldn't they, at least, save a couple of the 15/16 articles they upload per week to give something to players from their other main game?

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52 minutes ago, Thaliontil said:

What I can't understand is the complete lack of articles/information not only on the Lumineth, but on AoS in general. I play 40k, and I love it, but even though you are releasing the new edition soon, shouldn't they, at least, save a couple of the 15/16 articles they upload per week to give something to players from their other main game?

I know, right? at least discuss a tactica article about piling in or building Warcry warbands out of the underworlds warbands. We've been getting strung along since January for this army and we still don't know how much we're getting or if there is more. just give us a little crumble of information. Heck, something for forbidden power would be nice. This isn't Warhammer fantasy battles, people actually wanna play AoS!

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I’ve got these credit card rewards burning a hole in my pocket for at least another week now...

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On the plus side I found this gem in the hammerhal herald:

 

 

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18 hours ago, Thaliontil said:

What I can't understand is the complete lack of articles/information not only on the Lumineth, but on AoS in general. I play 40k, and I love it, but even though you are releasing the new edition soon, shouldn't they, at least, save a couple of the 15/16 articles they upload per week to give something to players from their other main game?

Agreed, over the last two weeks we have only had Roll Models, A Stormcast showcase and a very lack lustre Death Match series. I used to check the site and these forums daily but I’ve been down to once or twice a week lately with so little information flowing.

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I have to agree with all of the latest comments. This is starting to feel... I don't know, weird.

It's one of the most hyped and expected releases for AoS in the recent past (93 pages without much information about the range speaks volumes) and it's not just that they're delaying it so much, it's the fact that there's been almost complete silence in the other end of the line. Pandemic and all, even if there are no more minis for the release, there's always rules you can preview, articles you can make about lore, color schemes, mor base details, the design of the boxed set or whatever.

I've had to disconnect for almost two weeks for work reasons and the status is the exact same - no preorders, no leaks, no previews, nada. Even when WD454 comes by the end of the month. It feels like they keep forgetting on purpose, and that they'll have to rush everything when it finally comes (and I'll still love 'em by then).

It's not in line with the general behavior of GW as of late - they even announced price hikes openly and transparently. But on Lumineth, no word at all. Weird.

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I on purpose didn't write anything for the last few days to avoid being too negative. But it is really strange, even considering the virus situation. I also followed the release of the Soulbound RPG, and it was just so different. The editor always kept fans up to date, very often personally. Explained delays (also caused by Covid 19) etc. We have a clear release plan there for the rest of the year. And even though there is no mystery there (will my product launch next week??), people still buy the stuff, and are still hyped about it. 

I understand it's a different situation, scale and market, but I doubt that it's impossible for GW to make their release schedule public for more than a week in advance, for the period until everything people have been waiting for a long time now is out. But of course I don't know, maybe their sales rely to such an extend on impulse purchases that they can't do that. 

If they are all in on 40k right now, fine, but why not let us know when it's supposed to happen for us. Next week? In two weeks? Or in August after they are done with all the 40k stuff? And why not write an article or two per week to keep fans of the Lumineth (and also Sons of Behemat) engaged? 

It's not really great from a company if if they make it that obvious that they feel they can just turn us off and on on-demand, which likely is true (100% in my case 😓), but nevertheless. 

Let's hope it's our turn soon, and they still have some nice promotion material for us. 

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And now it's official:  WE MADE IT!! MOST POPULAR AELF FACTION ON THE BOARD* (views and posts)👍🎊🎉🥂🍰

*Sylvaneth are not an aelf faction (except in case I need them to be to prove another point I want to make)

* it doesn't matter that half the post are about how awful the horned helmets are, those are clearly also expressions of affection

 

To properly celebrate this mountainous  momentous event let us feast our eyes on a nice art piece!

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In regards to Sylvaneth not being aelves, was there any official lore reason why WoodlElf Ariel, who was goddess Isha reincarnated and was an Elf in the old world but Alarielle who was originally an elf and a fusion of the very same Ariel / Isha is not anymore ?  Is there a point in the goddess reincarnation cycle where your race vanishes over time  ?   Does this mean the other gods are no longer aelven  / human / dwarven as well ?

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1 hour ago, Aloth_Corfiser said:

Nice!
Is this from the White Dwarf Nr. 454 ?

It’s great, isn’t it? If that doesn’t get you pumped for playing Lumineth, I don’t know what will. 
Stoneguard looks really awesome in this one. Can’t wait until I have that picture in real before me. And yes, it is, found it on a YouTube vid. 

1 hour ago, Incineroar87 said:

In regards to Sylvaneth not being aelves, was there any official lore reason why WoodlElf Ariel, who was goddess Isha reincarnated and was an Elf in the old world but Alarielle who was originally an elf and a fusion of the very same Ariel / Isha is not anymore ?  Is there a point in the goddess reincarnation cycle where your race vanishes over time  ?   Does this mean the other gods are no longer aelven  / human / dwarven as well ?

As far as I understand it, there were many aelves in Ghyran and Alarielle was their goddess too, but during the Age of Chaos they had to flee to Azyr or would have been wiped out. Alarielle took this retreat as abandoning her and the Sylvaneth. She also basically died at that time, and the reincarnated Alarielle focuses on the Sylvaneth, but still remembers the old Wood Elves and the Ghyran Aelves, hence she made the Revenants in their imagine. It also looks like the Wanderers and Alarielle are getting a bit closer again. But maybe someone more knowledgeable of the Sylvaneth than me can explain it better. 

As for the gods, they are not really their species, they often just take the form of humans, dwarfs, elves etc. And seem more connected to one species. But many have believers of more than one species. 

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On 5/25/2020 at 11:50 PM, madmac said:

... Generic heroes are...mostly nonexistent but the ones we have look like strictly support types, with only one of them being a Wizard. The only seemingly strong generic hero is the Cow Man ... 

Because I just found out about that: The Scinari Cathaller is also 99% a Wizard, because she can cast "Arcane Bolt".

Not meaning that this changes necessarily the rest of your analysis in your previous post that I'm quoting, just thought this might be interesting for us all, bereft of any real news that we are right now. 

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5 hours ago, LuminethMage said:

Because I just found out about that: The Scinari Cathaller is also 99% a Wizard, because she can cast "Arcane Bolt".

Not meaning that this changes necessarily the rest of your analysis in your previous post that I'm quoting, just thought this might be interesting for us all, bereft of any real news that we are right now. 

I think the stonemage could be like the vampire lord as a hybrid fighter/caster as in the battle report the stonemage was the general with the command ability "almighty blow". Not the title of a command ability for hanging back away from a fight.

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I think next sunday could be the day for the "Lumineth Next Week Preorder" Post (in worst case 1 week later).

My assumpion for this is that they put the releasedate for White Dwarf 454 on last June week, even though some already have it since mid may. If we get the Post on sunday (June, 7.), preorder will be starting on June 13. and release would be on June 20.  and then the white Dwarf on June 26.  If it is one week later the Lumineth would be on preorder at Juni 20. and White Dwarf und Army will be out on the same weekend.

At least we doesn't have the problem the Blackstone Fortress player have. Deadly Alliance was announced for next weeks preorder the week before the shutdown (and it isn't on preorder yet).

 

My most interest is actually the Battletome because I want to see how the Lore will look like in it's complete state. Hopefully the Armyorganisation will not be as weird as the Sylvaneth one where they discripe that the households are the military armies of the of the sylvaneth and than a Household is 1 Treelord, 1 Branchwych and 1 unit of Tree-Revenants. I mean, the Forest folk battalion looked more like an army than the household. 

 

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