GrimDork Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Good spot! Neither has Teclis, though he probably just knows all the spells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaskier Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 (edited) There are rules leaks up on DakkaDakka; it confirms that the Lumineth regiments (at least the Sentinels and Wardens) are wizards (ala Kairic Acolytes!) and that Aetherquartz exists as an in-game resource, presumably similar to the Kharadron mechanic! Teclis can auto-cast four spells a turn with the casting value roll counting as a ten, and they are strong as heck; one lets Lumineth within 18" ignore wounds on a 5+, another does mortal wounds to every (Chaos, or just boosted against Chaos) unit within 18", and a third forces enemies to use two command points each time they use a command ability rather than the normal one. He's shown using at least six spells, so it's a safe bet he has a bunch on his warscroll and access to the entire Lumineth spell lore. Interestingly, he apparently can also stop enemy wizards from being able to cast spells full stop. Lots of other interesting details, especially deriving points costs, but at first glance Eltharion looks like a total beast for 220 - his only weaknesses appear to be mortal wounds (like anything) and mobility. Teclis at 660 puts him right up there with the big bads, I'm expecting his incredible magical abilities will be hampered by mediocre durability/hitting power relative to other models of that points bracket. Edited May 11, 2020 by Jaskier 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Thaliontil Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 (edited) I love the "Tectonic force" ability idea. Such a nice way of representing the strength + connection with the mountains of the Stoneguard. They are going to be a fantastic unit to sit on objectives. Edited May 11, 2020 by Thaliontil 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellman Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/05/11/endless-spells-to-keep-you-groundedgw-homepage-post-2/ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfhead Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 If they don't use anything we haven't seen, then chances are there really isn't anything new in the blurry pictures? There could still be other pictures of the Lumineth though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaliontil Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 (edited) I love the twinstones, but not really a fan of the design of the other two, tbh. Glad to see that there might be other things that we haven't seen in the release, though. Edited May 11, 2020 by Thaliontil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius501 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 (edited) @Thaliontil what makes you say there might be more? Also, I’m a tad worried Eltharion is a little under coated. I expected 270+ Edited May 11, 2020 by Tiberius501 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaliontil Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Well, I guess that (again) it's mostly wishful thinking, but given that the Endless spells where nowhere to be seen in previous photos (Or, at least, I don't recall any image where they were visible), and that with 10 warscrolls it would be a smaller release than Ossiarchs/Idoneth, I think it is very plausible that they have kept hidden a couple of units to show when they are finally available to pre-order. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralZero Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 A decor probably? More rules certainly, especially about the ES, where we only know half of the twin cristal one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuviel Lightbringer Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 (edited) There was an image on P77 of this forum from the white dwarf that showed a lumineth battleline against slaves and there was a very bizzare white shape that looked like a helmet and some pennants that did not match anything we were shown so far. (on the image it was behind Eltharion) thats my basis on there being at least 1 more unit but I could be wrong. Edited May 11, 2020 by Yuviel Lightbringer photo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reuben Parker Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 I was kind of expecting all the infantry to be 2 wounds similar to Fyreslayers due to being infused with magical energy. However after seeing the points they look in line with Deepkin so more likely 1 wound elite infantry. Also with those points and possible regiment discounts if not fielding Teclis can easily be a pretty high model count army if wanted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralZero Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 (edited) I'm also in the camp of "there is at least something else" just because without any news, this would be a really, really poor new army release. The lists will all be Teclis+Eltharion+ few things. Edited May 11, 2020 by GeneralZero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chosen_of_khaine Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, Yuviel Lightbringer said: There was an image on P77 of this forum from the white dwarf that showed a lumineth battleline against slaves and there was a very bizzare white shape that looked like a helmet and some pennants that did not match anything we were shown so far. (on the image it was behind Eltharion) thats my basis on there being at least 1 more unit but I could be wrong. That pic seems to be for the battle report though, and we now know there isn't anything new in that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius501 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 After staring at it again through squinted eyes, I think that the strange shape just above Eltharion is both of the other mages in the battle report army list. I think I can just make out the smoke coming from the one with the smoking chalice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuviel Lightbringer Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Just now, chosen_of_khaine said: That pic seems to be for the battle report though, and we now know there isn't anything new in that... I know, thats why I was as disapointed as I was when I saw the army list. yet something in that image within the red circle at the back does look fundementaly different to what we have already seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khaedhras Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Wow, the endless spells look very cool! Someone on dakkadakka just said that he received the WD issue way ahead of time, and that there are 11 options for Warcry: Scinari Cathallar, Alarith Stonemage, Steedmaster, High Sentinel, High Warden, Truestone Seneschal, Vanari Dawnrider, Vanari Auralan Sentinel, Vanari Auralan Warden, Alarith stoneguard with diamond pickhammer, Alarith Stoneguard with stone mallet. I imagine that the Steedmaster may be the name for the leader of the dawnriders and the Truestone Seneschal may be the name for the leader of the stoneguard. Regarding the very blurry pic of the battle report, I already had my fair share of doubt when uploading it. Now that we have seen part of the content of the battle report, even more so. Maybe we've seen the full range by now, who knows. I'm still trying to process everything we've seen in these past few hours. We've gone from no news to an avalanche (pun intended) of rules, abilities, models, and points... 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuviel Lightbringer Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Khaedhras said: Wow, the endless spells look very cool! Someone on dakkadakka just said that he received the WD issue way ahead of time, and that there are 11 options for Warcry: Scinari Cathallar, Alarith Stonemage, Steedmaster, High Sentinel, High Warden, Truestone Seneschal, Vanari Dawnrider, Vanari Auralan Sentinel, Vanari Auralan Warden, Alarith stoneguard with diamond pickhammer, Alarith Stoneguard with stone mallet. I imagine that the Steedmaster may be the name for the leader of the dawnriders and the Truestone Seneschal may be the name for the leader of the stoneguard. Regarding the very blurry pic of the battle report, I already had my fair share of doubt when uploading it. Now that we have seen part of the content of the battle report, even more so. Maybe we've seen the full range by now, who knows. I'm still trying to process everything we've seen in these past few hours. We've gone from no news to an avalanche (pun intended) of rules, abilities, models, and points... lots of names there that look very interesting, my kudos to the person who got the WD ahead of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falkman Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Steedmaster, High Sentinel, High Warden, and Truestone Seneschal are most likely the unit champions for those four units. Nice confirmation about the Stoneguard's weapon options. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolf Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Anyone got thoughts on how the "Sigil of Yngra" would work? the rules seems to reference "this model" but its a spells so cant be targeted by attacks right? Was thinking maybe its a garrison thing? Seems pretty strong to be able to give something +1 save and -1 hit for incoming attacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khaedhras Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, Yuviel Lightbringer said: [...] my kudos to the person who got the WD ahead of time. Indeed! Several people seem to have received the WD so far, from what can be read over there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reuben Parker Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 29 minutes ago, GeneralZero said: I'm also in the camp of "there is at least something else" just because without any news, this would be a really, really poor new army release. The lists will all be Teclis+Eltharion+ few things. Not sure about that if you drop Teclis you can get access to another 50 dudes. We will see what his rules are but either will be him plus units and minimal other characters or no Teclis and plenty of dudes. You can’t win Sigmar games vs decent lists with so few models. Especially as there’s a lot of shooting around at the moment that makes big points sinks generally a bad idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falkman Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 15 minutes ago, woolf said: Anyone got thoughts on how the "Sigil of Yngra" would work? the rules seems to reference "this model" but its a spells so cant be targeted by attacks right? Was thinking maybe its a garrison thing? Seems pretty strong to be able to give something +1 save and -1 hit for incoming attacks. None of the spells shown have their complete rules previewed (the Crystals only show that you get a bonus of some kind for example, not what you use it for) so the Sigil probably has another rule that tells you what it applies to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolf Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 24 minutes ago, Falkman said: None of the spells shown have their complete rules previewed (the Crystals only show that you get a bonus of some kind for example, not what you use it for) so the Sigil probably has another rule that tells you what it applies to. Ye I also noted, I was thinking its because they might have to do with the aetherquartz mechanic and which they don't want to reveal yet or something like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acid_Nine Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 My only fear is that we won't be competative without Teclis now. I love that pointy ****** but I hope he isn't in the "too good to miss out on" territory. Also still holding out on a Loremaster or archmage type hero... holding out for a hero till at least the end of the night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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