Kramer Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) On 1/28/2020 at 11:37 AM, DestructionFranz said: New Destruction army automatically means new investement for me π Just want to throw it out there, as proof of my incredible ability to guess the future π, that I expect them to be ORDER.Β So far they often kind of write ahead with the narrative and all those mentions of an intelligent race of giants that worked with the pantheon. Iβm just so convinced that this year will by all about Hysh.Β the only way I feel itβs going to destruction is if they do a storyline where the descendants of the intelligent giants resent the pantheon and their ancestors that sacrificed themselves. So in their resentment of the pantheon found GorkaMorka. #NostradamusOfHysh Edited January 30, 2020 by Kramer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheadTheOgorSlayer Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 23 minutes ago, Kramer said: Just want to throw it out there, as proof of my incredible ability to guess the future π, that I expect them to be ORDER.Β So far they often kind of write ahead with the narrative and all those mentions of an intelligent race of giants that worked with the pantheon. Iβm just so convinced that this year will by all about Hysh.Β the only way I feel itβs going to destruction is if they do a storyline where the descendants of the intelligent giants resent the pantheon and their ancestors that sacrificed themselves. So in their resentment of the pantheon found GorkaMorka. #NostradamusOfHysh To be fair they can spoof this to be destruction, chaos, or order what if chaos got some kind of foothold on behemats sons before the sigmarines were able to destroy behemat him/herself (I donβt remember if they gave behemat a gender? The giants seem to all be male so idk) this could open the possibility of chaotic sons. And as for why chaos would be fighting chaos (they hate beastmen) I think we all know that infighting is kind of chaosβs thing lol destruction giants seem the best fit. It makes sense to point out that the original sons of behemat battalion was made up of Aleguzzlers right? So maybe this isnβt intelligent giants, more so ogor or Orruk levels of intelligence for their leaders (or perhaps they always were as intelligent as orruks, I donβt remember them being any more stupid then their Orruk and ogor overlords. Iβm pretty sure with ogors itβs cuz they get beaten into submission. And with orruks they kinda join waaaghs sometimes) Itβs also possible that we get factions that are different alliances! What if some sons took refuge in cities of sigmar or something (they could help build and such, very useful and weβve seen destruction work with order so all we need is a long term commitment and bam order giants) some of them were corrupted to chaos, and some are pure destruction (brogg or whatever the namedΒ giant was called seems to me like a destruction aesthetic, so my bets are on this being a destruction tome) Β 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Public Universal Duardin Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 I could see SoB go any way, really. A multi-alliance army would be something new but at the same time it makes me feel a deep worry that instead of a full army comparable to Knights in 40K, it'll be some minor mercenary force requiring you to field another army to use. I want an army of Gargants! However, if GW is their traditionalist selves I could see @Kramer being correct. That would undoubtedly lead to much groaning by those who feel (rightly so!) Destruction is the odd allegiance out and I am unsure whether "intelligence" and "destruction" can be reconciled, even if I'd love tragic intelligent Gargants reduced to alcoholism. Β Β Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheadTheOgorSlayer Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Public Universal Duardin said: Β However, if GW is their traditionalist selves I could see @Kramer being correct. That would undoubtedly lead to much groaning by those who feel (rightly so!) Destruction is the odd allegiance out and I am unsure whether "intelligence" and "destruction" can be reconciled, even if I'd love tragic intelligent Gargants reduced to alcoholism. Β Β Β Iβll have you know that destruction also includes goblins and orks.Β These very factions once included Gorbad ironclaw. A massive ork known not for his strength (which he had plenty of) but for his tactics and ability to lead orks and goblins as a functional army (thatβs right, an army, not a horde)Β that would put the empires old generals to shame. they included Skarsnik, a goblin who would outwit dwarves and skaven many many times during his time. His old rules reflected his intelligence and use of tricks and traps to win over brawn. we also have gitilla the hunter, who outwitted the order of the hammer by making them underestimate his goblins Β destruction is notΒ team stupid.Β they have many legendary characters from the world that was that were able to outdo the other races in guile and cunning. I know destruction is definitely the most relaxed and comedic of the alliances, and many dumb brutes are counted among their number, but they do have intelligent leaders at least in fantasy battles, and I hope they give us more like the above heroes of legend. Β This rantΒ is fueled by my pent up aggression from losing my ork and goblins armies when archaon decided to split open the planet, Iβll go back to painting my chaos now Β Β Β 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Public Universal Duardin Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 58 minutes ago, TheadTheOgorSlayer said: destruction is notΒ team stupid.Β they have many legendary characters from the world that was that were able to outdo the other races in guile and cunning. I know destruction is definitely the most relaxed and comedic of the alliances, and many dumb brutes are counted among their number, but they do have intelligent leaders at least in fantasy battles, and I hope they give us more like the above heroes of legend. Β This rantΒ is fueled by my pent up aggression from losing my ork and goblins armies when archaon decided to split open the planet, Iβll go back to painting my chaos now Β It's okay, I understand - I lost my Bretonnians and my brother had a huge collection of Tomb Kings. GW giveth ad GW taketh etc etc etc. It's true there has been a lot of cunning in Destruction - and still is! But I was maybe thinking more on wisdom. Not that I expect any Aleguzzler to start quoting philosophy, but I took both Kramer's mention of intelligent giants and my own hopes and dreams to be about a wise race fallen into obscurity (such as the old WHFB lore was!). That would make our current Aleguzzlers tragic creatures - instead of being just 'kunnin' and capable to use intelligence to kill better, they would be descendants of a proud race and now drown their sorrows in the nearest bottle barrel silo of ale. Feeling intense shame and regret while they try to chase that new high to distract themselves from the unquestionable truth that the Good Old Times will never return. Now, will that happen? No. Most likely we'll just get 'Aleguzzlers, but bigger and meaner'. Which I am okay with, mind you, because I just want big models to paint with my poor eyesight. And then, hopefully to field. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 4 hours ago, Kramer said: Just want to throw it out there, as proof of my incredible ability to guess the future π, that I expect them to be ORDER.Β So far they often kind of write ahead with the narrative and all those mentions of an intelligent race of giants that worked with the pantheon. Iβm just so convinced that this year will by all about Hysh.Β the only way I feel itβs going to destruction is if they do a storyline where the descendants of the intelligent giants resent the pantheon and their ancestors that sacrificed themselves. So in their resentment of the pantheon found GorkaMorka. #NostradamusOfHysh Honestly I feel that if Sons of Behemat are Alligned with Order that would be a kick in the teeth to Destruction. An army of Gargants is as destructiony as you can get. Order has the most Factions and Models, give Destruction some love. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NauticalSoup Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 1 hour ago, KingBrodd said: Honestly I feel that if Sons of Behemat are Alligned with Order that would be a kick in the teeth to Destruction. An army of Gargants is as destructiony as you can get. Order has the most Factions and Models, give Destruction some love. I feel the same way 1000%, and that's as someone who actually plays Order. We've already got a new and presumably large army coming this year to add to our already bloated range. Destruction is by far the most maligned GA in terms of releases, and Giants have always been an orc & goblin/ogre thing. It'd be such a travesty for it to get shuffled off to Order. Not that I think it'll happen, the gargant kit isn't going away and it's got old WHFB monster feel including a human cage and a fleeing Empire dude. Too monstrous for Order. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheadTheOgorSlayer Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Public Universal Duardin said: It's okay, I understand - I lost my Bretonnians and my brother had a huge collection of Tomb Kings. GW giveth ad GW taketh etc etc etc. It's true there has been a lot of cunning in Destruction - and still is! But I was maybe thinking more on wisdom. Not that I expect any Aleguzzler to start quoting philosophy, but I took both Kramer's mention of intelligent giants and my own hopes and dreams to be about a wise race fallen into obscurity (such as the old WHFB lore was!). That would make our current Aleguzzlers tragic creatures - instead of being just 'kunnin' and capable to use intelligence to kill better, they would be descendants of a proud race and now drown their sorrows in the nearest bottle barrel silo of ale. Feeling intense shame and regret while they try to chase that new high to distract themselves from the unquestionable truth that the Good Old Times will never return. Now, will that happen? No. Most likely we'll just get 'Aleguzzlers, but bigger and meaner'. Which I am okay with, mind you, because I just want big models to paint with my poor eyesight. And then, hopefully to field. After hearing your vision of giants I might just need to join team order on this one! However perhaps we can have tragic giants without making them order. I think the coolest way to do giants is as a multi alliance army! Definitely would be a cool thing to introduce, and what better way to start then with the model thatβs been part of multiple armies since foreverΒ Edited January 31, 2020 by TheadTheOgorSlayer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlasticCraic Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 9 hours ago, Kramer said: Just want to throw it out there, as proof of my incredible ability to guess the future π, that I expect them to be ORDER.Β So far they often kind of write ahead with the narrative and all those mentions of an intelligent race of giants that worked with the pantheon. Iβm just so convinced that this year will by all about Hysh.Β It would mean a massive retcon if so.Β The Celestant PrimeΒ murdered Behemat, and Sigmar murdered his father.Β I don't see it personally. Β 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DestructionKev Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 I think it will be Destruction. Not just because i love Destruction and have to have everything from that Alliance No i think it will be Destruction, because they brought Ossiarch Bonereapers for DEATH and now the pointy Elves for ORDER, so next in Line would be DESTRUCTION or CHAOS.Β And even the Gargant we have today can be buidl and played as Aleguzzler or Chaos Gargant, i don't feel the Vibe of a Chaos Sons of Behemath Army.Β But i have to give credit to the good Guy "TheadTheOgorSlayer"Β Β for his input of in Faction fighting within Chaos.Β Β DESTRUCTION FOR LIFE ! β€οΈΒ 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKsmash Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 5 hours ago, DestructionKev said: I think it will be Destruction. Not just because i love Destruction and have to have everything from that Alliance No i think it will be Destruction, because they brought Ossiarch Bonereapers for DEATH and now the pointy Elves for ORDER, so next in Line would be DESTRUCTION or CHAOS.Β And even the Gargant we have today can be buidl and played as Aleguzzler or Chaos Gargant, i don't feel the Vibe of a Chaos Sons of Behemath Army.Β But i have to give credit to the good Guy "TheadTheOgorSlayer"Β Β for his input of in Faction fighting within Chaos.Β Β DESTRUCTION FOR LIFE ! β€οΈΒ Thank you so much for this!Β Frankly, I cannot understand all the "gargants will be order!" stuff. Order already has way more armies than they need, and they just had a big reveal. Plus, Destruction is discriminated against by GW lol. We need more love! β€οΈβ€οΈβ€οΈβ€οΈβ€οΈβ€οΈβ€οΈβ€οΈβ€οΈβ€οΈ Β 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Yeah destruction need a new army releaseΒ considering that Ironjawz and Bonesplitterz got combine. Order is already kind of bloated with Lumineath release on the horizon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Public Universal Duardin Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 (edited) That's either a Gargant or the world's tallest duardin. Anybody know where that picture is sourced from? Edited February 1, 2020 by Public Universal Duardin Nvm, it's from the Black Library email list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaleb Daark Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 On 1/23/2020 at 3:56 PM, Eevika said: 66% of books in a grand allegiance being weaker than 50% winrate is a trend I would say. Gitz is a competitive book when you play 160 Stabbas and 600 points of endless spells. The book has no sub allegiances, mount traits, extremely restrictive terrain, and an incredibly rng allegiance ability. It has one of the if not the best model range is AoS and great fluff but is it a great competitive book? No. 90% of units are not a competitively viable choice.Β Yebbut massive huge as tall as archaon giants.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth π Posted February 2, 2020 Author Share Posted February 2, 2020 On 2/1/2020 at 3:18 PM, Public Universal Duardin said: That's either a Gargant or the world's tallest duardin. Anybody know where that picture is sourced from? Newsletter email from Black Library apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth π Posted February 2, 2020 Author Share Posted February 2, 2020 4 hours ago, Kaleb Daark said: Yebbut massive huge as tall as archaon giants.. Bonegrinder gargant size or bigger? Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaleb Daark Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Gareth π said: Bonegrinder gargant size or bigger? Β The bone grinder is way taller than arky,- lets leave out the wings to make the model seem taller. Β Iβd imagine these guts as imperial knight size, otherwise what is there to separate them from the regular gargant model- which was fine before everything started to grow in scale. Edited February 2, 2020 by Kaleb Daark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheadTheOgorSlayer Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 5 hours ago, Kaleb Daark said: Yebbut massive huge as tall as archaon giants.. Hard to argue with that! Β Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheadTheOgorSlayer Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Kaleb Daark said: The bone grinder is way taller than arky,- lets leave out the wings to make the model seem taller. Β Iβd imagine these guts as imperial knight size, otherwise what is there to separate them from the regular gargant model- which was fine before everything started to grow in scale. If this isnβt battletome: fantasy imperial knights Iβll be very disappointed.Β 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Public Universal Duardin Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 21 minutes ago, TheadTheOgorSlayer said: If this isnβt battletome: fantasy imperial knights Iβll be very disappointed.Β How foolish we'll feel when the new "Gargants" are revealed as Dispossessed: Primaris Duardin. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheadTheOgorSlayer Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, Public Universal Duardin said: How foolish we'll feel when the new "Gargants" are revealed as Dispossessed: Primaris Duardin. If they are foot tall monstrosityβs (model wise) Iβd still buy em 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaleb Daark Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 1 hour ago, TheadTheOgorSlayer said: If this isnβt battletome: fantasy imperial knights Iβll be very disappointed.Β Amen to that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth π Posted February 2, 2020 Author Share Posted February 2, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Kaleb Daark said: The bone grinder is way taller than arky,- lets leave out the wings to make the model seem taller. Β Iβd imagine these guts as imperial knight size, otherwise what is there to separate them from the regular gargant model- which was fine before everything started to grow in scale. Similar size as Mantic's giant perhaps: http://thehobbyheroes.blogspot.com/2018/11/mantic-games-giant-review.html Edited February 2, 2020 by Gareth π 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 5 hours ago, Gareth π said: Similar size as Mantic's giant perhaps: http://thehobbyheroes.blogspot.com/2018/11/mantic-games-giant-review.html damn that model is huge, is about two feet tallΒ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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