Ironfist Battalion in Bonesplitterz Allegiance Army?

[Brandfas Machine]

In the Orruk Warclans Battletome FAQ, the final Q&A reads as follows:

Q: If a Big Waaagh! or Bonesplitterz army takes the Ironfist warscroll battalion, can both armies use the 'Mighty Destroyers' command ability even though it is an Ironjawz battle trait?
A: Yes.

The circumstances they're describing talk about an Ironjawz battalion being taken in a Bonesplitterz army. The Core Rules FAQ says that Warscroll battalions that share the battalions in a battletome belong to all of the factions in that battletome. So am I interpreting correctly that an Ironjawz-allegiance army could take a Kop Rukk without it counting as allies, and a Bonesplitterz army could take an Ironfist battalion without it counting as an ally?

[EMMachine]

5 hours ago, Brandfas Machine said:

The circumstances they're describing talk about an Ironjawz battalion being taken in a Bonesplitterz army. The Core Rules FAQ says that Warscroll battalions that share the battalions in a battletome belong to all of the factions in that battletome. So am I interpreting correctly that an Ironjawz-allegiance army could take a Kop Rukk without it counting as allies, and a Bonesplitterz army could take an Ironfist battalion without it counting as an ally?

To specify this.

Yes you can use them without spending points for allies or counting against the 1/4 Rule because they are in a Battalion.

They still count as allies for anything else (so they can't fill the minimum for Battleline or can't be general, can't get Artefacts etc.).

Edited November 15, 2019 by EMMachine

[Brandfas Machine]

4 hours ago, EMMachine said:

To specify this.

Yes you can use them without spending points for allies or counting against the 1/4 Rule because they are in a Battalion.

They still count as allies for anything else (so they can't fill the minimum for Battleline or can't be general, can't get Artefacts etc.).

Interesting, so would they not gain the benefits of the army's allegiance abilities?

[EMMachine]

No, because they are still allies after they don't have the keyword.

Here the part of the corerules (Page 17, Allegiance Abilities):

Quote

WARSCROLL BATTALIONS
A warscroll battalion can include
allies. They do not count against the
limit on the number of allied units
you can include in the army.

They do not count towards the limits of allies, but they are still allies.

[Brandfas Machine]

7 minutes ago, EMMachine said:

No, because they are still allies after they don't have the keyword.

Here the part of the corerules (Page 17, Allegiance Abilities):

They do not count towards the limits of allies, but they are still allies.

Awesome, thank you so much for the clarification!