AoS 2 - Ogor Mawtribe Discussion

[Ganigumo]

2 hours ago, Lord Krungharr said:

Well I'll still run my Gluttons, as they're all nicely painted so it would suck to try and convert them to Maneaters.  So I'll make some Maneaters!  Still Gluttons with IronFists can get some MW in if they take a whole bunch of saves. Maybe bless them with a 6++ from HoTT and add an All Out Defence vs a nonrendy enemy?    

Leadbelchers should be able to Unleash Hell with D6 shots per dude I think, so that's something maybe worth extra points?  

 

They only get the d6 if they're not in combat, so you'll need a screen of some sort to do it.

[Malakithe]

9 minutes ago, Ganigumo said:

They only get the d6 if they're not in combat, so you'll need a screen of some sort to do it.

Where is that change?

[Malakithe]

Hmm...going to be tricky figuring out an Underguts list 

[Ganigumo]

15 minutes ago, Malakithe said:

Where is that change?

Nevermind i'm dumb, maybe i'm thinking of an older edition...

[Soolong]

There has to be a warscroll change to gluttons. Coherency changes, base size and range of 1 inch means they have to change something. Also, as someone with 12 mournfang they couldn't put them in units of 4? I thought they were changing the units to how they are sold in the boxes?

[CDM]

[peasant]

37 minutes ago, CDM said:

What is this?

[CDM]

There's some mercenary rules in the new white dwarf for these two named characters and some good siege of excelsis battlepans etc. Not read through most of it yet though

Edited June 18, 2021 by CDM

[Bayul]

New marketing article for Ogres in 3.0: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/06/18/hit-em-hard-then-eat-em-a-mantra-for-the-ogor-mawtribes-in-the-new-edition

[Ganigumo]

I've been playing around with some lists for the new edition trying to figure out my next project (my poor BCR are grey still), but I've come up with this list so far.

Allegiance: Ogor Mawtribes
- Mawtribe: Boulderhead

Battalions:

-Command Entourage (Artifact)

-Battle Regiment

Leaders
Frostlord on Stonehorn (430)
- Artefact: Brand of the Svard
- Mount Trait: Black Clatterhorn
Frostlord on Thundertusk (385)

-artifact: Amulet of Destiny (5+ ward)
- General
- Command Trait: Lord of Beasts
- Mount Trait: Rimefrost Hide
Firebelly (125)
Icebrow Hunter (125)

Battleline
3 x Icefall Yhetees (120)
3 x Icefall Yhetees (120)
4 x Mournfang Pack (320)
- Gargant Hackers
4 x Mournfang Pack (320)
- Gargant Hackers

Units
2 x Frost Sabres (55)

Total: 2000 / 2000
Extra Command Points: 0
Allies: 0 / 400
Wounds: 116

Obviously there's some room for improvement, SH beastriders are probably better than a 4 model mournfang pack, but I think the FLoTT stocks are way up. This build gives him a 3+/5++ that reduces incoming rend by 1, and has a -1 to be hit in melee. MSU yhetees feel like they might be interesting to block unleash hell and be objective grabbers, and the deepstriking hunter + cats can threaten open objectives although they're mostly there to fill out command entourage.

The one thing I was having trouble deciding was whether to go boulderhead or not. Tribeless would let me either take a CT to stop things retreating from the FLoTT, or Winter Ranger for d3 command points per turn from a hunter (although I think you lose out on the 1 CP per turn if your general is in reserve so that might be weaker in general) although leaving boulderhead would make taking the FLoSH a worse choice since he wouldn't get a free mount trait.

[Malakithe]

22 minutes ago, Bayul said:

New marketing article for Ogres in 3.0: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/06/18/hit-em-hard-then-eat-em-a-mantra-for-the-ogor-mawtribes-in-the-new-edition

Biggest winners Gluttons...lol no. Just no. Coherency alone will make them almost unplayable 

[James101]

21 minutes ago, Bayul said:

New marketing article for Ogres in 3.0: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/06/18/hit-em-hard-then-eat-em-a-mantra-for-the-ogor-mawtribes-in-the-new-edition

Love that they have Glutttons listed first in the “biggest winners” section. Way to read the room on your own rules GW. 
 

Gluttons are absolute trash. Unit coherency on top of losing the block purchase discount makes them absolutely dreadful. I am not sure why you’d ever take them over Ironguts or Leadbelchers who are both far more coherency resistant. 

Their analysis on Leadbelchers is good though and I think overlooked in some early comments on here. They are an excellent unit for Unleash Hell

[yacob]

14 hours ago, HostilSpike said:

Honestly feels like we got off better than a lot of factions. 

Just realised the effective 120pts increase on 12 Gluttons, ooooof.

So we don't get the 12man unit discount anymore? or is this still possible?

[HostilSpike]

1 hour ago, yacob said:

So we don't get the 12man unit discount anymore? or is this still possible?

I don't think so, that seems to be gone as a mechanic

[Lord Krungharr]

I'll be testing the new rules as we know them so far tomorrow with my all Gutbusters (or maybe a HoTT to try the priestly class).  Vs Blades of Khorne.  

My initial thoughts are to put the Gluttons in a Vanguard, and run them up as a screen early on.  Then the Ironguts and Leadbelchers can be more choosy about where to go coming up from behind.  If I take Alvagr Ancient on the HoTT near some Ironguts where I think a heavy hitter will charge, then that's a good chance the Ironguts get to eat first.  My friend is a skilled player, but not too much experience with Khorne.  Luckily I have plenty of experience playing with and against Khorne.  Skulls for fiber, blood to wash it down.....

[Sigmarusvult]

The article is strange, it suggests that you can stack both Bloodbath and All Out Attack on a single unit of Gluttons but in the core rule it is said that a unit cannot receive more than one command ability per phase. 

Edited June 18, 2021 by Sigmarusvult

[Ganigumo]

1 minute ago, Sigmarusvult said:

The article is strange, it suggests that you can stack both Bloodbath and All Out Attack on a single unit of Gluttons but in the core rule it is said that a unit cannot receive more than one command ability per phase. 

The recipient of the Bloodbath command is the butcher, who then has an aura.

The new rules still allow stacking command abilities, but you need to have command abilities written for different phases and/or auras.

[Sigmarusvult]

So butcher can issue bloodbath and has to receive it even if Bloodbath only affects units of gluttons that are in the aura? 

Edited June 18, 2021 by Sigmarusvult

[Ganigumo]

14 minutes ago, Sigmarusvult said:

So butcher can issue bloodbath and has to receive it even if Bloodbath only affect gluttons that are in the aura? 

Yeah, exactly.

If you read the ability it asks you to pick a Butcher as a target, and the effect is reroll wounds for gluttons within 12 of the butcher. Most aura command abilities function this way too, like the Frostlord's Bellowing Voice

[Kadeton]

5 hours ago, Bayul said:

New marketing article for Ogres in 3.0: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/06/18/hit-em-hard-then-eat-em-a-mantra-for-the-ogor-mawtribes-in-the-new-edition

Big winners: Frostlord on Stonehorn!

Picture: Huskard on Stonehorn.

Good job, GW.

[Bayul]

My new Beastclaw Slayers on their way to Age of Sigmar 3.0:
 

Edited June 20, 2021 by Bayul

[KingBrodd]

45 minutes ago, Bayul said:

My new Beastclaw Slayers on their way to Age of Sigmar 3.0:
 

Beautiful mate.

[HostilSpike]

So with our Battalions gone, I can't help but wonder what the point of a Huskard on Stonehorn is now. They really should make it a Priest to give it a purpose

[Kadeton]

11 hours ago, HostilSpike said:

So with our Battalions gone, I can't help but wonder what the point of a Huskard on Stonehorn is now. They really should make it a Priest to give it a purpose

Yeah, agreed. Or at least give it a profile that's not strictly worse than the Beastriders. I can't think why I'd take one, now - might have to break the Stonehorn's head off and replace it with a Thundertusk.

[Magnus The Blue]

14 hours ago, HostilSpike said:

So with our Battalions gone, I can't help but wonder what the point of a Huskard on Stonehorn is now. They really should make it a Priest to give it a purpose

Ability to take a mount trait (but cheaper than FLoST) is the only thing I can think of.