Heijoshin Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) On 1/2/2020 at 1:46 PM, Scurvydog said: *Snip* Sorry for the late reply! Thanks for the info and I agree 40 is probably too much. What do you and everyone else advise in situations when you are against a shooting heavy list and / or heavy magic (so Hallowheart basically). Say you are going in knowing 99.9% even before list building its a heavy shooting and magic list, what are your lists looking like? Would you recommend something like prismatic palisade? What about Immortis guard for the heroes? By heavy shooting and magic im talking 30 Darkshards, 2-4 reaper bolt throwers (we allow them in our group despite them not being "legal"), and basically 4 casters, (2 sorcs, 1 battlemage and dreadlord with artefact to cast). The Battlemage with the Transmutation of Lead spell is a pain, and a lot the Hallowheart spells look like massive kick in the groin as well to boot. I may have a game soon with this list, which is VERY un-optimised - at least whilst I am waiting for my crawler and Katakross to arrive and be built etc. I name it my "I finally have close to 2k, this is what I have and I am tired of building, I just want a game for heavens sake!" list: Legion: Up for debate but i'll stick in PE for now. Liege Kav Helm of the Ordained General Bone Shaper Godbone armour Bone Shaper Soul Mason Mortek Guard x 20 - Swords Mortek Guard x 20 - Swords Mortek Guard x 10 - Swords 1 unit Morghast Harbinger / Archai 1 unit Morghast Harbinger / Archai 1 Unit Stalker / Immortis Mortek Shield Corp. 1990 / 2000 So yeah, far from the best and still unsure on a lot of things like which of the Morghast variants to go with and whether to go with them as one or two units. Same with stalkers over immortis. I may pull a Morghast unit or the stalkers / immortis and just buy and build a harvester quickly. Also may even get the Endless spells and build the Carrion as well if I drop a Morghast unit. Would this be a definite Null Myriad choice? Or even something like Stalliarch to get in there asap and cause some mayhem? Or is PE still the go to even in this scenario? Edited January 5, 2020 by Heijoshin More Info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan I Guess Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just remember if you run Stalliarch you'll lose that helm of the ordained as the first liege to get an artifact has to use the Stalliarch artifact. Speaking of which if you dont give a liege an artifact in stalliarch lords you are open to all Mortisan and realm artifacts. Rule just says "the first Stalliarch Lords Liege to receive an artifact. . ." So as long as you leave him blank you can give your mortisans whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArgyBargy Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 9 hours ago, Gwendar said: Only used it once so far and did a batrep on it. It went fine, though I'm not convinced it works from a competitive standpoint.. could probably go even. I just run Nagash, 3x20 Mortek and 6 Stalkers. Like I said, it works well enough but I've only played it against Sylvaneth and I feel against many other armies it could potentially crumble with the low RDP which this army really hinges on. Had a look at your batreps, Double mortarch wouldve been cool. What do you run in that list and how has it fared? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwendar Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 45 minutes ago, ArgyBargy said: Had a look at your batreps, Double mortarch wouldve been cool. What do you run in that list and how has it fared? The Katakros + Arkhan list looks like this: Spoiler Allegiance: Ossiarch Bonereapers- Legion: Petrifex EliteLeadersKatakros, Mortarch of the Necropolis (500)- GeneralArkhan the Black, Mortarch of Sacrament (360)Battleline20 x Mortek Guard (260)- Nadirite Blade and Shield20 x Mortek Guard (260)- Nadirite Blade and Shield5 x Kavalos Deathriders (180)- Nadirite Blade and ShieldUnits6 x Necropolis Stalkers (400)Endless Spells / Terrain / CPsNightmare Predator (40)Total: 2000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 0Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 110 Unfortunately I haven't been able to play it yet. Was going to today but had to cancel my game, so I will likely get 1-2 games in with it come next weekend. I suspect it will be my favorite choice for competitive play and I fall back on the Nagash list for everything else. I don't want to go with Crawlers for reasons that have been discussed for pages and pages (easily shutdown, swingy) and Harvesters are far too easily shot\MW'd off the board to make a difference to me. With the above I'm getting solid mobility and 2x20 Mortek are generally enough to cover an objective each while Stalkers 'hunt and kill' what is needed... Kavalos just go where needed or screen backfield. With a minimum of 6 RDP you're doing pretty good in that department too. Katakros is a great buff piece and Arkhan can expand on that.. plus if you manage to get off a solid Curse of Years that's a pretty cool moment too 😉 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casandora Yellow Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Hello all! So I'm finishing up my first list for bonereapers and wanna know what you guys think. I'll be playing Null Myriad. Budget is a little tight, I'll be buying a liege and death riders this month, but I am open to suggestion. Would Arkhan be a better choice? It is his legion after all. Liege Kavolos - General -unsettling sinister - Baleful Blade Boneshaper - artisan key Soulmason Mortek guard x10 Blade Mortek guard x10 Blade Mortek guard x10 Blade Kavolos Deathrider x5 spear(?) Mortek crawler Mortek shield Corp Necropolis stalker x6 spirit blades Morghast Archai x2 Halberd Ravenaks gnashing jaws 2000pts exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArgyBargy Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I know its really dumb but what do you guys make of this 12 stalkers list? Theyre absolute murder machines and i want a novelty list with as many as i can fit. Liege Shaper Mason 40x Mortek 10x Mortek 10x Mortek 6x Stalkers 6x Stalkers Shrieker or Katakros 20x Mortek 20x Mortek 5x Deathriders 6x Stalkers 6x Stalkers 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwendar Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 @ArgyBargy I mean if novelty is your thing I would just go with the Katakros list.. also because I don't like Mortek in 40's or 10. Katakros' aura should cover most of the fightable board area if he stays above that threshold so.. could be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Mackay Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 11 hours ago, Gwendar said: The Katakros + Arkhan list looks like this: Hide contents Allegiance: Ossiarch Bonereapers- Legion: Petrifex EliteLeadersKatakros, Mortarch of the Necropolis (500)- GeneralArkhan the Black, Mortarch of Sacrament (360)Battleline20 x Mortek Guard (260)- Nadirite Blade and Shield20 x Mortek Guard (260)- Nadirite Blade and Shield5 x Kavalos Deathriders (180)- Nadirite Blade and ShieldUnits6 x Necropolis Stalkers (400)Endless Spells / Terrain / CPsNightmare Predator (40)Total: 2000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 0Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 110 I’ve played a couple of games with the following Katakros + Arkhan lists (once each so far) Allegiance: Ossiarch Bonereapers- Legion: Petrifex EliteLeadersKatakros, Mortarch of the Necropolis (500)- GeneralArkhan the Black, Mortarch of Sacrament (360)Battleline20 x Mortek Guard (260)- Nadirite Blade and Shield20 x Mortek Guard (260)- Nadirite Blade and Shield5 x Kavalos Deathriders (180)- Nadirite Blade and ShieldUnits2 x Morghast Harbingers (210)- Spirit Swords2 x Morghast Harbingers (210)- Spirit SwordsEndless Spells / Terrain / CPsSuffocating Gravetide (20)Total: 2000 / 2000Extra Command Points: 0Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 110 I played vs Slaanesh with this list. Gift From The Heavens, it didn’t go well for me. The Locus making you fight last plus their ability to fight multiple times hurts a lot. Allegiance: Ossiarch Bonereapers- Legion: Petrifex EliteLeadersKatakros, Mortarch of the Necropolis (500)- GeneralArkhan the Black, Mortarch of Sacrament (360)Battleline20 x Mortek Guard (260)- Nadirite Blade and Shield20 x Mortek Guard (260)- Nadirite Blade and Shield10 x Kavalos Deathriders (360)- Nadirite Blade and ShieldUnits2 x Morghast Harbingers (210)- Spirit SwordsEndless Spells / Terrain / CPsNightmare Predator (40)Total: 1990 / 2000Extra Command Points: 0Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 113 I played this vs Stormcast in Places Of Arcane Power. It was technically a draw when we called it but I would have automatically won in the next turn as I’d killed all his heroes. I probably could have tabled him too. I did make some rules mistakes though (gave Katakros the Petrifex Elite -1 rend command ability, Deathriders probably weren’t wholly within 6” of the Hekatos for command abilities) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwendar Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 @Joseph Mackay Yeah...when I play Slaanesh with anything but Skaven (or anyother shoot\teleport heavy army) I never have a great time. I haven't been able to play them since their FAQ so all in all I would fair better but... yeah, AFL + Double Pile-in will always hurt. But yeah.. wholly within 6" of Hekatos is the reason I don't run more than 20 or more than 5 of Guard and Kavalos respectively.. and I really think those are the best numbers to have for each overall. Did the Harbingers work for you at all? I really never considered them (even with their 3d6 charge) as the Stalkers just put out so much more. While it's nice to be able to charge over a screen and hit the supporting units behind, I find that 6 Stalkers will kill whatever is in front of them anyway and they're seldom afraid of what is behind that screen.. unless it's something like a Maw-Krusha or TG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Mackay Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 @Gwendar I’m not sure on the Morghasts to be honest, I’ve been running them mostly because that’s what I have. sometimes they do quite a bit of damage and other times they just get murdered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwendar Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 38 minutes ago, Joseph Mackay said: other times they just get murdered Which is why a lot of people who do take them will go with Archai but.. meh. Harbinger charge range is great but the output isn't there when Stalkers can RR their charges and put out more for fewer points which... is nuts on that and I feel it's an oversight. Initially I had anticipated using them as hero assassins instead of a Crawler as they could easily get into the backline, but that also proved to not be worth it in comparison 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abesolutzero Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 I'm a fan of this list so far- it's won me a match vs Blightkings. Allegiance: Ossiarch Bonereapers- Legion: Petrifex EliteMortal Realm: ShyishLeadersArkhan the Black, Mortarch of Sacrament (360)Mortisan Soulmason (140)- General- Trait: Mighty Archaeossian- Artefact: Godbone Armour- Lore of Mortisans: Arcane CommandBattleline20 x Mortek Guard (260)- Nadirite Blade and Shield- 2x Soulcleaver Greatblades10 x Mortek Guard (130)- Nadirite Blade and Shield- 1x Soulcleaver Greatblades10 x Mortek Guard (130)- Nadirite Blade and Shield- 1x Soulcleaver GreatbladesUnits3 x Necropolis Stalkers (200)3 x Necropolis Stalkers (200)BehemothsMortek Crawler (200)Mortek Crawler (200)BattalionsMortek Ballistari (100)Endless Spells / Terrain / CPsSoulsnare Shackles (40)Bone-tithe Shrieker (30)Total: 1990 / 2000Extra Command Points: 1Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 104 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadDice0809 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, abesolutzero said: I'm a fan of this list so far- it's won me a match vs Blightkings. Allegiance: Ossiarch Bonereapers- Legion: Petrifex EliteMortal Realm: ShyishLeadersArkhan the Black, Mortarch of Sacrament (360)Mortisan Soulmason (140)- General- Trait: Mighty Archaeossian- Artefact: Godbone Armour- Lore of Mortisans: Arcane CommandBattleline20 x Mortek Guard (260)- Nadirite Blade and Shield- 2x Soulcleaver Greatblades10 x Mortek Guard (130)- Nadirite Blade and Shield- 1x Soulcleaver Greatblades10 x Mortek Guard (130)- Nadirite Blade and Shield- 1x Soulcleaver GreatbladesUnits3 x Necropolis Stalkers (200)3 x Necropolis Stalkers (200)BehemothsMortek Crawler (200)Mortek Crawler (200)BattalionsMortek Ballistari (100)Endless Spells / Terrain / CPsSoulsnare Shackles (40)Bone-tithe Shrieker (30)Total: 1990 / 2000Extra Command Points: 1Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 104 Pretty sure the list is illegal. Ballastari needs a boneshaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadDice0809 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Anyone got any good recommendations for 25mm movement trays for our Mortek units? Bonus points if there is a little bit of space to put some basing material on there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abesolutzero Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, BadDice0809 said: Pretty sure the list is illegal. Ballastari needs a boneshaper. Stupid hero names look all the same. Guess that'll save me a lot of points, then, by not bothering with the Ballistari. Reroll 1s to hit is way too valuable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sception Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 55 minutes ago, BadDice0809 said: Anyone got any good recommendations for 25mm movement trays for our Mortek units? Bonus points if there is a little bit of space to put some basing material on there. None that I currently like, but this kickstarter looks promising: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tt2/thunder-trays?fbclid=IwAR1vA-GMgTpsOX_H6Kc414gINb2zk539Prl6GybdloFxugM0jFk5CwL1Ae0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chosen_of_khaine Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Had my first game with a Nagash list the other day, and did not expect him to do as well as he did. In addition to shutting down casting, he's just so much more resilient AND deadly in OBR - between Petrifex, Protection of Nagash, and healing 3 each turn defensively, coupled with +1 to hit from Shrieker, additional -1 rend from Petrifex CA, +1 attack from Liege, and his own CA rerolling 1s, he is MUCH more of a presence in combat than in LoN. Not to mention the +3 move you can give him to get him where you need him to be much easier. None of this is even "magical christmas land", you can reliably do all this and have 2-3 RDP left over for Shieldwall and whatnot. For reference, my list was:Petrifex Elite Nagash Liege Kavalos (general) 20 Mortek 20 Mortek 10 Deathriders Bone-Tithe Shrieker I didn't feel as starved for RDP as I expected, and this list was really fun to play. As the only one who plays OBR at my store, I'm getting the sense the other players are definitely of the mind that OBR (or at least Petrifex) is a bit OP, and I can't say I disagree. Haven't even come close to losing a game with them yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmoerk Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Hello everybony, Im new to the community, also new to the obr, and i like to join a regional tournament with this army next month. 1500 points Katakros Mason 2x20 guards sword 3 stalkers 200 points left... Harvester for more durability? Crawler to snipe champs? More stalkers? Riders? Help me pls 😋👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmoerk Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 32 minutes ago, bigmoerk said: Hello everybony, Im new to the community, also new to the obr, and i like to join a regional tournament with this army next month. 1500 points Katakros Mason 2x20 guards sword 3 stalkers 200 points left... Harvester for more durability? Crawler to snipe champs? More stalkers? Riders? Help me pls 😋👍 Oh no... i misscalculated... thought of 230 points for 20 guards... so 140 points left, and that means 10 guards on top. would be this list: Katakros (500) Soulmason (140) 20 guards (260) 20 guards (260) 10 guards (130) 3 stalkers (200) = 1490 points. Any suggestions? the szenarios we will play are -starstrike - border war - shifting objectives i think, that these missions are not that fast, more statik and slow. good for our guards and katakros. what do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngryPanda Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) I’ve been playing OBR for a month now trying the different sub factions and units to see what works/doesn’t work. Haven’t played with Katakros cause I don’t own him yet, but as a post-holiday gift I decided to treat myself by purchasing him as he’s a gorgeous model. When I finish painting him up I plan on fielding this list along side a bunch of mortek guard. I really want to make use of the mortek guard as I love the models, and I plan to do so with the buffs that Katakros and the other heroes provide, in addition to the various types of healing. Let me know what you guys think; any suggestions/improvements are welcome: Allegiance: Ossiarch Bonereapers- Legion: Mortis Praetorians LeadersKatakros (500)- General Mortisan Boneshaper (130)- Lore of Mortisans: Reinforce Battle-Shields Mortisan Soulreaper (120)- Lore of Mortisans: Drain Vitality - Artifact: Artificer’s Blade Mortisan Soulmason (140)- Lore of Mortisans: Empower Nadirite weapons - Lore of Mortisans: Protection of Nagash - Artifact: Gothizzar Cartouche Battleline20 x Mortek Guard (260)- Nadirite Blade and Shield- 2x Soulcleaver Greatblades20 x Mortek Guard (260)- Nadirite Blade and Shield- 2x Soulcleaver Greatblades20 x Mortek Guard (260)- Nadirite Blade and Shield- 2x Soulcleaver GreatbladesBehemothsGothizzar Harvester (200)BattalionsMortek Shield-corps (120)Endless Spells / Terrain / CPsBone-Tithe Nexus (0) Total: 1990 / 2000Extra Command Points: 1Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 106 Edited January 8, 2020 by AngryPanda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obeisance Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Got my second AOS tournament on the weekend. I finished painting my OBR last night. The lists have been published. Tournament is 40 players and there's some rough lists. Like one list with four Bloodthirsters of Insensate Rage. There's a cool Skyre list with a Warpcog Convocation. ... I sure have painted a lot since Contrasts came out six months ago. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArgyBargy Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 44 minutes ago, Obeisance said: Got my second AOS tournament on the weekend. I finished painting my OBR last night. The lists have been published. Tournament is 40 players and there's some rough lists. Like one list with four Bloodthirsters of Insensate Rage. There's a cool Skyre list with a Warpcog Convocation. ... I sure have painted a lot since Contrasts came out six months ago. Whats this 4 insensate rage BT list? That could really hurt OBR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obeisance Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) Adam Simpson Battlemaster AOS Adam Simpson’s Khorne Demons Allegiance: Khorne Slaughter Host: Reapers of Vengeance Hidden Agenda: Obliterate, invade, Ancient Heirloom, dominate, terrify, retake, onslaught and overrun Command Points: +1 Army Total: 1960 LEADERS (General) Blood Thirster of Insensate Rage [270] Artefact of Power: Skullshard Mantle, Mage Eater Blood Thirster of Insensate Rage [270] Artefact it Power: A’ragth the King of Blades Blood Thirster of Insensate Rage [270] Blood Thirster of Insensate Rage [270] Bloodletters (30) Bloodreaper Horn blower Standard bearer Bloodsoaked Banner [300] Flesh Hounds (5) [100] Flesh Hounds (5) [100] Bloodcrushers (3) Blood Hunter Horn blower Icon bearer [120] Bloodcrushers (3) Blood Hunter Horn blower Icon bearer [120] WARSCROLL BATTALIONS Tyrants of Blood [140] https://downunderpairings.com/ArmyList.php?ArmyID=15297 Edited January 8, 2020 by Obeisance Edited to make it more legibile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obeisance Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 To be honest, I'm not really sure how to handle it if I play it. Aside from try to limit Insensate damage and kill them on the counter charge. Try to play the scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxi99 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) I play Khorne as my other army, unsurprising given my pic... I think that list would really struggle, without buffs, which other than locus there aren’t any, all of the IR thirster will be hitting on 4s with only 5 attacks each on the top bracket. The one to look out for is the one with A’ragth as that will hit heroes on a 2+, so as long as all your heroes are screened it should be fine. Also, apart from the bloodletter blob, when it’s >20, you can pretty much ignore the rest of the units, they will just bounce off of mortek guard. Meant to add, any debuffs like the -1 hit from the nexus are your friend! Edited January 8, 2020 by Maxi99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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