cplhicks Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 46 minutes ago, Tizianolol said: Oh, sad. Maw crusha still the same Where i can find all FAQ? Here ya go! https://www.warhammer-community.com/faqs/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabbuk Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Hey guys, So with the new GHB dropping and the changes to the "special rule", am I right to assume that Ardboys with shields can only use one 6+ dpr now? I'm asking because I had heard somewhere that text written on the warscrolls themselves was unaffected and it was only the allegiance abilities that were. So, I guess to make it as clear as possible: can Ardboys with shields, and with the right amount of Waaagh! points, use their 6+ to shrug off a wound and then use the 6+ save of Laugh at 'Em if they failed that first try? Or they can only use one and I need to choose. Thanks for clarifying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizianolol Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Wow thx! Italian page is not updated lol!!;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broche Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 16 hours ago, Jabbuk said: So with the new GHB dropping and the changes to the "special rule", am I right to assume that Ardboys with shields can only use one 6+ dpr now? I'm asking because I had heard somewhere that text written on the warscrolls themselves was unaffected and it was only the allegiance abilities that were. They can't use both 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlasticCraic Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 In their GH20 review, THWG mentioned that the Rogue Idol may actually be 400 points, because another update came out afterwards that took him back down to 400 (from 420). The guest (Dispossessed Dan) took the view that although he hates Greenskinz (boo!), it is the most recent document, and therefore 400 is the valid points level. Does anyone know what they were referring to, and what's your view on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NauticalSoup Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 (edited) Hmmm curious, what update could we have had since the errata? It's only been a few days. Edit: Dan is on twitter, could just ask him there if it's ambiguous. Edited July 24, 2020 by NauticalSoup 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizianolol Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 (edited) Guys what do you think about my new list? Megaboss on maw krusha 460 -destroyer -mean un mount trait -brutish cunning -haka and choppas Megaboss 150 -metalrippa s klaw Wurrgog prophet: 160 - gorkamorka war cry (spell) Warchanter 110 -get em beat Warchanter 110 - fixin beat 10 ardboys 200 -4 shields 1 banner 1 glyph bearer 10 brutes 260 - 2 gore choppa - boss choppa -gore hakas 6 gore gruntas 320 -pig iron choppas Ironfist battalion 160 1 command point 50 Tot 1980 What do you think?:) Edited July 24, 2020 by Tizianolol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlasticCraic Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 58 minutes ago, NauticalSoup said: Hmmm curious, what update could we have had since the errata? It's only been a few days. Edit: Dan is on twitter, could just ask him there if it's ambiguous. Just asked him 😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackroks981 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 It’s the forgeworld points that he was referring too. They came out after the GHB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypno Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, PlasticCraic said: Just asked him 😃 Warhammer community site under Downloads is the monstrous arcanum faq that’s dated 16/7/20 After the GHB in which the rogue idol is 400 points Edited July 24, 2020 by Hypno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiky Norman Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Hypno said: Warhammer community site under Downloads is the monstrous arcanum faq that’s dated 16/7/20 After the GHB in which the rogue idol is 400 points That is true, but in the document itself, this line is above the list of points: So even though it was uploaded after the release of GHB2020, it seems that the list of points haven't been updated since March 2020, which is then perhaps nullify the argument that the 400 supersceeds the 420. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizianolol Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Guys if i give choppas to my gore gruntas unit.if i charge, my pigs got +1 hit and wound? Or that buff works only for a unit with gore hackas? Ty for clarifications!!:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonSmall Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Tizianolol said: Guys if i give choppas to my gore gruntas unit.if i charge, my pigs got +1 hit and wound? Or that buff works only for a unit with gore hackas? Ty for clarifications!!:) It would still work for the pigs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlmGandix3 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Spiky Norman said: That is true, but in the document itself, this line is above the list of points: So even though it was uploaded after the release of GHB2020, it seems that the list of points haven't been updated since March 2020, which is then perhaps nullify the argument that the 400 supersceeds the 420. yep the ghb states "updated profiles june 2020" so it should be 420 points, sadly Edited July 24, 2020 by AlmGandix3 typing error 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlasticCraic Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 Yep, I got my hopes up there, but looks like 420. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DestructionFranz Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 9 hours ago, PlasticCraic said: Yep, I got my hopes up there, but looks like 420. 420 is officially the new price even on Warscrolls builder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoosh Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 Here's a list I'm thinking of bringing to an upcoming Meeting Engagement tournament, I'd appreciate feedback on it. Allegiance: IronjawzSpearheadOrruk Warchanter (110)- Warbeat: Fixin' Beat3 x Orruk Gore-gruntas (160)- Jagged Gore-hackasMain BodyMegaboss on Maw-Krusha (460)- General- Boss Choppa and Rip-tooth fist- Command Trait: Ironclad- Artefact: Daubing of Mork- Mount Trait: Mean 'Un5 x Orruk Brutes (130)- Jagged Gore-hackas- 1x Gore ChoppasRearguard5 x Orruk Brutes (130)- Jagged Gore-hackas- 1x Gore ChoppasTotal: 990 / 1000Extra Command Points: 0Wounds: 66 Is the Maw Krusha a bit much for a meeting engagement? am I better off bringing more bodies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakree Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 @Tizianolol bit of a late response but since nobody else has I'll throw in my 2cents. Quick note first, the footboss is 140 now so you're overcharging yourself. Honestly I don't think ardboys compete with brutes anymore in standard IJ lists. Definitely not in big waaagh. The primary advantage ardboys always had was the fact they were so much harder to shift than brutes. The +2 bravery, 6++ save and better points per wound all added up to a solid block which was "almost" as good as brutes on the damage. -10 points made brutes better points per wound than ardboys and that's without the +10 points hike on ardboys. In addition the damage difference, which slightly favoured brutes, is now much more pronounced. So you're losing +2 bravery/charge and the 6++ shields but gaining 50% more wounds and much better damage for 30points. However. The most important change for big waaagh is that you can no longer roll multiple after saves on any wounds you take. So if you have the 12 waaagh point 6++ up the shields are now worthless. With all that in mind I'd suggest dropping the extra CP and swapping to 10 brutes instead of 10 ardboys. Then shift metal rippers onto the cabbage (it's fricking amazing on him) and take the +1 bravery banner on your footboss to push the brutes to bravery 7. Allegiance: Big Waaagh! LeadersMegaboss on Maw-Krusha (460)- Boss Gore-hacka and Choppa- Artefact: Metalrippa's Klaw- Mount Trait: Weird 'UnOrruk Megaboss (140)- Artefact: The Boss SkewerOrruk Warchanter (110)Orruk Warchanter (110)Wurrgog Prophet (160)Battleline6 x Orruk Gore-gruntas (320)- Pig-iron Choppas10 x Orruk Brutes (260)- Pair of Brute Choppas10 x Orruk Brutes (260)- Pair of Brute ChoppasBattalionsIronfist (160)Total: 1980 / 2000Extra Command Points: 1Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 131 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakree Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 Oh and in case anyone was wondering this would be the kinda list I'd take if I had the brutes/boarboys. Allegiance: Big Waaagh!LeadersOrruk Megaboss (140)- Artefact: The Boss SkewerOrruk Warchanter (110)Orruk Warchanter (110)Orruk Weirdnob Shaman (120)- Artefact: Shamanic Skullcape- Lore of the Weird: Da Great Big Green Hand of GorkBattleline10 x Orruk Brutes (260)- Pair of Brute Choppas10 x Orruk Brutes (260)- Pair of Brute Choppas10 x Orruk Brutes (260)- Pair of Brute Choppas10 x Orruk Brutes (260)- Pair of Brute Choppas5 x Savage Boarboys (130)- Chompas5 x Savage Boarboys (130)- ChompasBattalionsBrute Fist (120)Endless Spells / Terrain / CPsChronomantic Cogs (80)Total: 1980 / 2000Extra Command Points: 1Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 175 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkahn Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 @Malakree we think the same about brutes since GHB20, I need to buy 10 brutes to try this list asap Allegiance: Big Waaagh!Mortal Realm: ChamonLeadersMegaboss on Maw-Krusha (460)- General- Boss Gore-hacka and Choppa- Command Trait: Ironclad- Artefact: Plate of Perfect Protection- Mount Trait: Weird 'UnOrruk Warchanter (110)- Warbeat: Get 'Em BeatOrruk Warchanter (110)- Warbeat: Fixin' BeatOrruk Weirdnob Shaman (120)- Artefact: Shamanic Skullcape- Lore of the Weird: Da Great Big Green Hand of GorkBattleline10 x Orruk Brutes (260)- Jagged Gore-hackas5 x Orruk Brutes (130)- Pair of Brute Choppas30 x Savage Orruks (300)- Stikkas6 x Orruk Gore-gruntas (320)- Pig-iron ChoppasBattalionsIronfist (160)Total: 1970 / 2000Extra Command Points: 1Allies: 0 / 400Wounds: 168 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanoss Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 @Arkahn I now battle with the problem of Weirdnob with GGHoH for 5 more brutes! Haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkahn Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 28 minutes ago, Lanoss said: @Arkahn I now battle with the problem of Weirdnob with GGHoH for 5 more brutes! Haha My other option is to swap 5 brutes + weirdnob into 5 Ardboyz + Wurrgog prophet But HoG is too good to me, with the new meta we have to kill key hero and HoG is our main (only) option ! I'm thinking about arrowboyz instead of savage orruk maybe too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boggler Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 I like your loadout on the MBMK. Won't you miss Brutish Cunning? I am going to try Brutish Cunning and Gravesand Brooch. Though ignoring that extra rend might be more usefull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkahn Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 5 hours ago, Boggler said: I like your loadout on the MBMK. Won't you miss Brutish Cunning? I am going to try Brutish Cunning and Gravesand Brooch. Though ignoring that extra rend might be more usefull. I would try today vs Ogor Boulderhead, because the idea of a MK in 2+ ignoring -1 seems good on paper and I want to know if an Ironfist is enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boggler Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 This is five drops. Close to 200 wounds. 70 models. No magic. Can Alpha. Not sure what Artifact to give the Warchanters. If I have to go first or second, that is fine by me. The extra Mighty Destroyers is to help get those boyz on to the objectives. Should have 20+ Waagh points by turn two. Allegiance: Big Waaagh! - Mortal Realm: AqshyLEADERS Orruk Megaboss (140) - General - Command Trait : Brutish Cunning - Artefact : Metalrippa's Klaw Orruk Warchanter (110) - Warbeat : Fixin' Beat Orruk Warchanter (110) - Warbeat : Get 'Em BeatUNITS 6 x Orruk Gore-gruntas (320) - Pig-iron Choppas 6 x Orruk Gore-gruntas (320) - Jagged Gore-hackas 5 x Orruk Brutes (130) - Pair of Brute Choppas 10 x Orruk Ardboys (200) 10 x Orruk Ardboys (200) 30 x Savage Orruks (300) - StikkasBATTALIONS Ironfist (160) 1990pts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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