madmac Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Just now, 123lac said: I honestly think they are being squatted. If Wanderers were being squatted they'd have finished the job, like they did for Order Draconis, Eldritch Council, Swifthawk, Lion Rangers... The fact that the only got rid of the oldest unit and finecast/metal heroes means they have other plans for them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AthlorianStoners Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, madmac said: If Wanderers were being squatted they'd have finished the job, like they did for Order Draconis, Eldritch Council, Swifthawk, Lion Rangers... The fact that the only got rid of the oldest unit and finecast/metal heroes means they have other plans for them. I definitely agree with this, there’s been indicators Wanderers were different from the other Aelven factions from the start 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123lac Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 1 hour ago, madmac said: If Wanderers were being squatted they'd have finished the job, like they did for Order Draconis, Eldritch Council, Swifthawk, Lion Rangers... The fact that the only got rid of the oldest unit and finecast/metal heroes means they have other plans for them. That was just round 1... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmac Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 1 minute ago, 123lac said: That was just round 1... Whatever you say dude. Just remember to come back and admit you were wrong later. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueraven84 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 4 hours ago, Cataphract said: Mostly Heroes with the exception of the Glade Guard. Potentially making room for Kurnothi My guess also. If I was betting man I would say no wanderers in 2020 handbook anymore and what is left from that army is in cities book. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cataphract Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, Blueraven84 said: My guess also. If I was betting man I would say no wanderers in 2020 handbook anymore and what is left from that army is in cities book. Hard to say what they would do because they have literally built up an entire faction around just one model set, the Black Orcs/ ard’boys for IronjawZ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick in York Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 I suspect Wanderers as we currently know them will be done. GW will lean into the wardancer aesthetic for a new faction (a la DoK) - maybe Kurnothi. And then there will be the Cities factions including Wanderers. Only speculation but GW do seem to be streamlining the AoS range and bringing it all into line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cafarom89 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 of wanderers have survived essentially those of the cover of the book, someone knows the fate of the griffin? lastly I think that the glade guards are gone because they are out of scale with other, very small models Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zilberfrid Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 (edited) Yeah, the NZ CR guy needs a promotion, communication to the players and a banner on the NZ games workshop page. Nothing like that on other pages, so get this guy in charge of the whole CR of GW. Lost for wanderers: All heroes except Nomad Prince, and glade guard. Left: Eternal guard/rangers, Sisters of the thorn/wild riders, Sisters of the watch, Nomad prince. The hope for Wanderers now lies with the Kurnothi, I think. Edited August 3, 2019 by zilberfrid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overtninja Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 All the heroes outside of the Nomad Prince were resin or metal, so it's a no-brainer that they'd get rid of them as soon as they could - GW's experiment with keeping their metal molds usable with a proprietary resin was pretty much a flop - Finecast was a massive fiasco in terms of quality and probably cost them a good deal of money. (I've not got the monetary figures but I do know that there were massive issues with bubbling, bending from heat, being malformed or poorly molded, etc.) They have likely sold through most of their existing stock, so it's time to retire them. It's a shame, as some of them are actually nice sculpts (I own most of them in metal, which is awful to paint but oh well), but GW is capable of creating even better miniatures now that they don't rely entirely on hand-molding their minis. I'm not upset about the loss of GG models either, because they are runty compared to most other AoS models, and we could end up with much nicer aelven archers out of the deal - which would be a net win for the game - us older players could use our GG as counts-as and newer players could buy the new models. Also, I am 100% into buying any satyr/centaur aelves they make, I love the overall look and would love to field units of them - even if #2 from the right looks really, really derpy. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStreicher Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 It‘s no surprise the old kits are gone, though I am happy wild riders will stay =} Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zilberfrid Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 2 hours ago, JackStreicher said: It‘s no surprise the old kits are gone, though I am happy wild riders will stay =} Wild riders/sisters of the thorn look awesome. Still trying for a reason to put them in my army. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenshin620 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 4 hours ago, overtninja said: All the heroes outside of the Nomad Prince were resin or metal, so it's a no-brainer that they'd get rid of them as soon as they could - My only weird issue is that gw also appears wildly inconsistent (I mean I dont even play wanderers, not sure why Im here) Plastic Grot Shaman they could have reused for gloomspite gitz? Removed. Metal (or resin? they didnt specify) Madcap Shaman that comes in a 2 pack from like 14 years ago? Sure keep using them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overtninja Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 1 hour ago, kenshin620 said: My only weird issue is that gw also appears wildly inconsistent (I mean I dont even play wanderers, not sure why Im here) Plastic Grot Shaman they could have reused for gloomspite gitz? Removed. Metal (or resin? they didnt specify) Madcap Shaman that comes in a 2 pack from like 14 years ago? Sure keep using them! It's not about what can continue to be used - most models can be used long after they are sold as counts-as. It's about what they choose to keep in production, keeping in mind the age and condition of the molds, the popularity and number of models sold, and whether or not it's cost-effective to produce them as they are now. You should definitely use your cool old minis! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turin Turambar Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 so do you think shadow warriors will replace glade guard as the wanderer's generic archers since all other swifthawk stuff is going away or do you think they will throw them in with what they plan to do with them Phoenix boys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zilberfrid Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 9 minutes ago, Turin Turambar said: so do you think shadow warriors will replace glade guard as the wanderer's generic archers since all other swifthawk stuff is going away or do you think they will throw them in with what they plan to do with them Phoenix boys? Sisters for Kurnothi/Wanderers, Shadow Warrors for Teclis elves would be my guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfhead Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 I have a feeling GW is moving elves from quick, skillfull and slender pointy eared humans into something more extreme. The cities of sigmar contain the more traditional elves and the other elves will explore new esthetic choices and concepts. I’m actually a little puzzled why we’re seeing these kurnothi instead of the light/shadow elves. But I’m fine just sitting back and seeing what GW comes up with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zilberfrid Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, elfhead said: I have a feeling GW is moving elves from quick, skillfull and slender pointy eared humans into something more extreme. The cities of sigmar contain the more traditional elves and the other elves will explore new esthetic choices and concepts. I’m actually a little puzzled why we’re seeing these kurnothi instead of the light/shadow elves. But I’m fine just sitting back and seeing what GW comes up with. They seem to stick everything to a god. - What remains of the light elves could be allied to Teclis - Dark elves to Malerion - Plant elves to Alarielle - Beast related wild elves to Kurnoth They'll stick Freeguild to Sigmar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AthelLoren Posted August 3, 2019 Author Share Posted August 3, 2019 The removal of most of our heroes makes me very sad... The Waystrider was actually my favorite sculpt in the range, ever. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cafarom89 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 do you know if in the city of sigmar we will have the warscroll update? having seen the escape of some heroes and glade guards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zilberfrid Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Cafarom89 said: do you know if in the city of sigmar we will have the warscroll update? having seen the escape of some heroes and glade guards Updated warscrolls will be in the tome. I don't expect them for discontinued models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overtninja Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 12 hours ago, AthelLoren said: The removal of most of our heroes makes me very sad... The Waystrider was actually my favorite sculpt in the range, ever. I am going to work my very hardest to find ways to field them with the new tome, I've customized all my heroes and I'm sure they'll find a home representing something! I'm a big fan of the Waywatcher myself - if need be she can be the unit champ for my SotW (which are old Waywatchers themselves), or another elite ranged unit, particularly if a scouting elite archer unit is in the cards. For the rest, it will be a bit harder, but I'll figure something out, and I'm sure you will too! I'm looking forward to seeing how different forces get arranged - there will almost certainly be more unit options in an all-elf list now than before, and without knowing allegiance requirements it's hard to spitball what we'll be able to use. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cafarom89 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 In my opinion the magician is the biggest loss of the wanderers, glade guard are instead those that weigh less than the sisters of the watch, much more powerful and useful than the glade guard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmac Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 18 minutes ago, Cafarom89 said: In my opinion the magician is the biggest loss of the wanderers, glade guard are instead those that weigh less than the sisters of the watch, much more powerful and useful than the glade guard I think it's just your starting point is a large influence on how you take it. People who painted up 80+ Glade Guard are naturally going to be unhappy with the cut, while people like me who got to build a box of Glade Guard and Sisters side by side and compare can just toss the Glade Guard over my shoulder with a relieved sigh I'm not forced to use those things for battleline or battalion purposes. Seriously, Sisters are a dream to put together, especially contrasted with GG. I also dislike horde factions in general, so I prefer to go with more elite options when possible. I agree with you though that losing the mage is a bigger loss, albeit it is always a lot simpler to rotate out a hero or two for new kits then a spammy batteline unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cafarom89 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 do you think they will ever make new kits for wanderers after these cuts or not? sorry tagazzi but it is from January that I play AoS and I love wanderers, all this has discouraged me a lot, but fortunately it is not all lost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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