PlasticCraic Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 A question for everyone out there...we know from the Feb FAQ that Scurry counts as an action on a fighter card towards Keep Them Guessing: Q: Does Scurry count as an action on a fighter card for the purpose of scoring Keep Them Guessing? A: Yes. This is how Scurry is worded: Reaction: After a friendly fighter other than a Squig makes a Move action, if that move began in an adjacent hex, this fighter makes a Move action. They cannot do this if they have any Move or Charge tokens My question is whether Bjorgen Thundrik's Reaction (on his fighter card) would also count towards Keep Them Guessing? The wording is: Reaction: Use this after this fighter's activation. In the next activation, enemy fighters treat hexes adjacent to this fighter (other than blocked hexes) as lethal hexes. Do we think that this is also in scope, because both are Reactions? Or is Scurry different because it is a Reaction that incorporates an action, whereas Thundrik's does not incorporate a defined action? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaldoBeardo Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Keep them guessing requires an *action* on a fighter card. Scurry required an FAQ because it explicitly states an action that is triggered as a reaction. Thundrik's reaction is not an action, so out of scope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riddlesworth Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 3 hours ago, BaldoBeardo said: Keep them guessing requires an *action* on a fighter card. Scurry required an FAQ because it explicitly states an action that is triggered as a reaction. Thundrik's reaction is not an action, so out of scope. I dont have my rulebook to hand but it does state that reactions are a special type of action. The Scurry FAQ confirms that, although it's a little unclear. If you look at the various Facebook groups, the general consensus is yes, reactions on a fighter card count towards keep them guessing. Haven't yet heard of a TO or Grand Clash ruling otherwise. Next FAQ may change this and make keep them guessing much less playable 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belly318 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 21 hours ago, BaldoBeardo said: Keep them guessing requires an *action* on a fighter card. Scurry required an FAQ because it explicitly states an action that is triggered as a reaction. Thundrik's reaction is not an action, so out of scope. Yes it is. Rulebook states that Reactions are a special type of action. Ergo, an Action. One that is printed on a fighter card. The designers commentary confirmed this, as it speaks about Scurry itself counting as an action. Not the move that is triggered by Scurry. So essentially, if a charge action triggers scurry, and a goblin moves - this counts as 3 actions for Keep them Guessing - charge, move, and an action on a fighter card. The same principal applies to the Guardian reactions, Gorefists, and Thundrik. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlasticCraic Posted June 20, 2019 Author Share Posted June 20, 2019 Thanks for the feedback guys, that's much clearer to me now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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