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4 hours ago, GeneralZero said:

I can't beleive you more!

You know what? I waited 2 month to get the dire wolves (out of stock at GW). Then they were again available (friday last week). ordered asap (the same day,  last week). They are now, AGAIN out of stock at GW, they were available only 3 days :(9_9O.o

Their internal talk says these production issues should start being resolved around the middle of this year. It’s multiple issues adding up to trouble with demand from what we’ve been told. The major stuff could take until mid late ne t year if what chatter we heard was true at the start of the year. 

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If I recall right one big issue is power supply due to works by the local council so that could be one key thing that is holding them back; and might well be something that they can't just buy extra machines to cover. Might be those works finish some time this year or next and thus let them get that factory back to full production capacity. 

 

I also think that they don't want to invest too much in machines and new staff only to ride out this big wave of purchasing and find that it eases off in half a year or more; leaving them with excess production capacity (which means having to let staff go - or operate at higher than needed running costs or even have machines sitting around empty!)

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18 hours ago, Bloodmaster said:

 

 

@Sleboda calm down, LLV was nowhere near insulting, but I guess nowadays everything can be taken as an insult if you want. 

I dunno.  Telling someone they are choosing to be ignorant is not exactly friendly, especially after you've complimented them.

 

Anyhoo, Allen Merit and Golden Demon -

Yep. I used to judge Golden Demon in the US. He was a co-judge one year. I vaguely recall scratching my head at some of his thoughts, but they didn't seem horrible.

Models got eliminated for all sorts of reasons. Heck, one year (Co-judge may have been Gary Morley iirc) it came down to two models and we eliminated one because it used NMM as a technique and the other didn't. It's a very subjective thing.

 

As to rumors - if plastic squigs are a thing and they look more classical than fungal, my gf and I will take on part time work and have the checks go straight to GW.

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5 hours ago, Kugane said:

I actually think the made to order is partly there as a market survey to see which cut miniatures sell well to figure out in what direction to guide releases. 

Wow, then it's not going to be good data.

I have pretty much had my hobby in limbo since TK went (I do mess around with Darkling Covens a bit, as a place-holder), and, in terms of GW, my biggest hope is a TK return (not new models, but just the plastics and Ushabti back).

Yet, I didn't buy Khalida or Settra.

If they want good data - and cannot produce plastic Made to Orders - Ushabti would be a much better barometer than two characters than most people have already (especially as one of the Tomb King on Exhalted Chariot's main abilities is basically obsolete now).

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16 minutes ago, Kyriakin said:

Wow, then it's not going to be good data.

I have pretty much had my hobby in limbo since TK went (I do mess around with Darkling Covens a bit, as a place-holder), and, in terms of GW, my biggest hope is a TK return (not new models, but just the plastics and Ushabti back).

Yet, I didn't buy Khalida or Settra.

If they want good data - and cannot produce plastic Made to Orders - Ushabti would be a much better barometer than two characters than most people have already (especially as one of the Tomb King on Exhalted Chariot's main abilities is basically obsolete now).

Indeed...  setters was very wanted pre-Ghb2017 though. I ended up selling my TK army so I don't think about it anymore and can focus on new stuff. I really hope they return though. I miss their aesthetic. 

I read somewhere that the majority of warhammer buyers do not play the game though. Perhaps it was marketed towards those?

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4 hours ago, Mr. White said:

Wait...the made to order models released last week were in plastic? I thought made to order was done in their original materials.

If i missed an all plastic Zacharias...

They are in their original materials. They aren’t going to get a very expensive plastic mould machined for a model they’re getting rid of. 

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12 hours ago, Barkanaut said:

Their internal talk says these production issues should start being resolved around the middle of this year. It’s multiple issues adding up to trouble with demand from what we’ve been told. The major stuff could take until mid late ne t year if what chatter we heard was true at the start of the year. 

 

11 hours ago, Overread said:

If I recall right one big issue is power supply due to works by the local council so that could be one key thing that is holding them back; and might well be something that they can't just buy extra machines to cover. Might be those works finish some time this year or next and thus let them get that factory back to full production capacity. 

 

I also think that they don't want to invest too much in machines and new staff only to ride out this big wave of purchasing and find that it eases off in half a year or more; leaving them with excess production capacity (which means having to let staff go - or operate at higher than needed running costs or even have machines sitting around empty!)

I live about 10mins from Warhammer World and have a few friends who work for either GW or their distribution (Great Bear I think manage their logistics). Last I heard, we're talking major investment into plastic equipment. Stock has to be shifted around because of storage capacity and distribution. It'll all catch up, but I imagine GW will just focus on key lines until the new production stuff is in place. 

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7 hours ago, Mr. White said:

Wait...the made to order models released last week were in plastic? I thought made to order was done in their original materials.

If i missed an all plastic Zacharias...

I'm waiting on the Tyrant and I was expecting metal as well. But we'll see. 

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8 hours ago, Mr. White said:

Wait...the made to order models released last week were in plastic? I thought made to order was done in their original materials.

If i missed an all plastic Zacharias...

I brought the mounted sorceress, dreadlord and Lokhir Fellheart on the last made to order run; all metal in blitzer packs. It's doubtful it'll be any different for future made to order runs.

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7 minutes ago, MightyMetro said:

My local store posted a list of items to be discontinued from July.  Can an expert eye glean any information  from this list?

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Fellwater Troggoths

Is this an actual GW store or an FLGS?

My local non-GW put everything not in the new boxes on a discount shelf.

There are a lot of clampack heroes there. Clampacks I would think wouldn’t be selling well since a) they’re too expensive for one model and b) you can pick them up in the SC or other starter boxes.

On second thought, extend that to a few of the unit boxes listed there.

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36 minutes ago, SuperHappyTime said:

Is this an actual GW store or an FLGS?

 My local non-GW put everything not in the new boxes on a discount shelf.

There are a lot of clampack heroes there. Clampacks I would think wouldn’t be selling well since a) they’re too expensive for one model and b) you can pick them up in the SC or other starter boxes.

On second thought, extend that to a few of the unit boxes listed there.

I was incorrect.  Please, disregard this rumor

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Yeah I translated it (with Google Translate, I like to live dangerously :) ) and most of these are not discontinued, just being sold only in the shop and not available online. They're going to discontinue only sets that were discontinued by GW.

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4 minutes ago, michu said:

Ok maybe I misunderstood, because I ommited "GW" during translation. Right now it says "Sell without GW Online Store". Now it doesn't make any sense to me.

No you are correct.  There is something weird with the copying / pasting and formating on my Iphone.

The original post on the FLGS website doesnt appear to say anything about availability. Also, i cant see it here in tga.  

However, if i paste my quote back into another iphone app i can see a second column in Korean.

TLDR:  i jumped the gun. These products will be online only with the exception if those replaced by AOS 2. For example, Thunder and Blood.

 

 

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49 minutes ago, MightyMetro said:

My local store posted a list of items to be discontinued from July.  Can an expert eye glean any information  from this list?

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Not really an expert, but yeah, they seem to be in Korean......?

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Warhammer community published their "next week" article. If I understand correctly, these are the last releases for the new SCE and NH.

I'm surprised there's no Castigators box. Seems like they will only be available in the starter sets and the ETB box.

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Would it really be the last NH release for now, do you think? that would mean for NH the knight of shrouds on ethereal steed, and the guardian of souls are only available from the boxed set (apart from the aniversary GoS). is this something GW does more often?. especially GoS seems to be something that has not much alternatives for a NH list.

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