novakai Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 they like mixing cultural stuff lately, Bonereapers had some elements of Samurai armor and Egyptian aesthetics, Realmlords where kind of a lot stuff ( Spartan/ High elf/ eastern Asian/ Tibetan feel) guesses would be that Vampire has some classic Transylvania/ Count dracula vibes but also traits from other culture. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBrodd Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Vamp Chavs. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangelist of Cinders Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 though i do wish vampire players get their wish my feeling on GW demanding some IP control(that and I recall more info and lore items inthe old world then Aos for vampirates) I will def have some Schadenfreude if these all turn into slaanesh mortal bits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AverageBoss Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 GW can go either way. Bone reapers exist. On the other hand, Nighthaunt are a bog standard gothic ghost army (with amazing models) when you get down to it. AoS seems to have no problem using old troupes or new experiments. As long as they sell. And making zany models does not really protect them on an IP front (other than making alternative model sources have to start fresh to match). You can't copyright a concept, only a specific sculpt. This if why Raging Heroes and other companies can get away with making clear alternatives for chaos daemons, GWs most unique line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezzhil Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 The "vampires" could be Felix and Ulrika Black Library commemorative models. We can expect anything. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inferno Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 9 hours ago, Nezzhil said: I think it is Ulrika or something like that. Sword seems matching, 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rattila Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Well it would be fun to have Ulrika, Félix and the sorcerer (forgot his name, Max? ) as a Direchasm Warband ! How cool would that be? ^^ 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nostrammo Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, rattila said: Well it would be fun to have Ulrika, Félix and the sorcerer (forgot his name, Max? ) as a Direchasm Warband ! How cool would that be? ^^ I dont know if I am ready for this 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastmaster Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Funny enough, all those Rapier-wielders seem to be left-handed. What do they do with their right, I wonder? Holding a pirate-style pistol, maybe? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inferno Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Beastmaster said: Funny enough, all those Rapier-wielders seem to be left-handed. What do they do with their right, I wonder? Holding a pirate-style pistol, maybe? I've got to same conclusion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandlemad Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 3 hours ago, AverageBoss said: GW can go either way. Bone reapers exist. On the other hand, Nighthaunt are a bog standard gothic ghost army (with amazing models) when you get down to it. AoS seems to have no problem using old troupes or new experiments. As long as they sell. And making zany models does not really protect them on an IP front (other than making alternative model sources have to start fresh to match). You can't copyright a concept, only a specific sculpt. This if why Raging Heroes and other companies can get away with making clear alternatives for chaos daemons, GWs most unique line. Bog-standard might be a bit much. Nighthaunt aren’t radical but they do develop the gothic ghost angle with stuff like the cruel & unusual Sisyphus-style punishment aspect and GW-specific visual cues like the briars/roses. So there’s a sliding scale to my mind and even where GW’s doing a ‘safer’ new thing they’re still anxious to put their own stamp on it. I’d agree though that there’s more to this than copyright protection. You can go back to the WD designer’s notes for 6th edition ogre kingdoms, before all the copyright/lawsuit stuff, and see the emphasis the designers were putting on these being Warhammer ogres, unique to GW and distinct from other fantasy universes. GW push their brand as much as a unique selling point as out of concern for copyright. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBrodd Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Honestly I dont know if I'd rather have a unique looking Vampireates army or a classic updated AOS Vampire army. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramer Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 16 hours ago, novakai said: i guessing no one considering that it just going to be regular Vampire that are not pirates 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramer Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 16 hours ago, novakai said: i guessing no one considering that it just going to be regular Vampire that are not pirates I agree tho. The pirate element feels more fandom echo chamber than anything. It started because of the rumour engines that turned out to be part of the kraken eater as far as I can tell. And now it just repeats while, to me at least, the nautical elements isn’t there. 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastmaster Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 13 minutes ago, Kramer said: I agree tho. The pirate element feels more fandom echo chamber than anything. It started because of the rumour engines that turned out to be part of the kraken eater as far as I can tell. And now it just repeats while, to me at least, the nautical elements isn’t there. Then again, this is the rumour thread. The irrefutable truth thread is next door. 😁 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramer Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 34 minutes ago, Beastmaster said: Then again, this is the rumour thread. The irrefutable truth thread is next door. 😁 Haha tell that to my gravedigger, halfling, dragon army Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojojojo101 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 1 hour ago, KingBrodd said: Honestly I dont know if I'd rather have a unique looking Vampireates army or a classic updated AOS Vampire army. The correct answer is both. If it is a 'classic' vampire army I think it's going to need a bit more to it than that to stand up to the rest of what AoS has to offer, probably focused around Neferata (not Mannfred, he's a right ******). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBrodd Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 The statement that GW made about all Major Factions being present in Broken Realms makes me think that perhaps the Sons as a Faction wont be. My guess would be that a few Mega Gargants show up as Mercs or alternatively perhaps a Stomp overhears the clangour of battle and dives right in!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverstu Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 57 minutes ago, mojojojo101 said: The correct answer is both. If it is a 'classic' vampire army I think it's going to need a bit more to it than that to stand up to the rest of what AoS has to offer, probably focused around Neferata (not Mannfred, he's a right ******). Those weapons look very classic- almost to the point of me thinking they are WFB, to me it either is Cities or a Vampire faction in the cities/modelled on the cities, it doesn't scream Realm of Death to me, could be the martial prowess of Blood dragons, the infiltration of Neferata and the classic nobility of Vlad. But it might well be a human force. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Under the Mountain Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Sounds like a fun party 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 42 minutes ago, KingBrodd said: The statement that GW made about all Major Factions being present in Broken Realms makes me think that perhaps the Sons as a Faction wont be. My guess would be that a few Mega Gargants show up as Mercs or alternatively perhaps a Stomp overhears the clangour of battle and dives right in!! Rule wise or lorewise? i don’t see how they going to drag more mercenary rules without another mega variant. Easy thing would just making any battalions since Sons have literally zero at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogregut Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 49 minutes ago, KingBrodd said: The statement that GW made about all Major Factions being present in Broken Realms makes me think that perhaps the Sons as a Faction wont be. My guess would be that a few Mega Gargants show up as Mercs or alternatively perhaps a Stomp overhears the clangour of battle and dives right in!! Can parts not be switched around on the gargants? Like giving the warstomper the gate breakers weapon? Easy enough to give them rules for another tribe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clan's Cynic Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 52 minutes ago, KingBrodd said: The statement that GW made about all Major Factions being present in Broken Realms makes me think that perhaps the Sons as a Faction wont be. My guess would be that a few Mega Gargants show up as Mercs or alternatively perhaps a Stomp overhears the clangour of battle and dives right in!! They're probably going to share that really awkward spot Sisters of Battle did in regards to Psychic Awakening, wherein they're referenced in the fluff and might even pop up quote prominently, but likely won't receive any new rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoby Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 9 minutes ago, King Under the Mountain said: Sounds like a fun party It sounds Slaaneshi (birthday with the newborn, 'excessive', 'delights', etc) but doesn't look it, which is interesting. Maybe the next Broken Realms (Slaanesh/Sigvald) will be in Ashqy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 13 minutes ago, King Under the Mountain said: Sounds like a fun party I guess it’s related to Cinderfall not sure if rebirthday is related to Sigvald but that tag line does sound like a Slaaneshi tag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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