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1 hour ago, silverstu said:

I wouldn't give up hope- Sons are a book and a big single kit pretty much - pretty easy to slot into the schedule compared to other factions so you never know..

That's what I'm hoping for, you could easily drop them alongside a Warcry Warband or a Necromunda Gang. If nothing happens before 9th Edition I'll assume September and hopefully be pleasantly suprised for August :)

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Any rumors for Generals Handbook?  Only releases we are expecting are Lumineth, in pre-order, the SoB, and the GHB.

i suspect we won’t get the Handbook until after Lumineth is on the market, likely because points are in the books.  

I’m hoping the GHB preorder will be next after the Limineth are out.

Keeping to rumors- Any thoughts on the release schedule?

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The special edition of Ephrael Stern: The Heretic Saint also looks very nice. Whilst its likely going to have a pretty steep price on it, that's quite a nice collection of special print books and little additional features. Though personally as someone who never read the comics I'll likely only get the regular new colourised version of the comics that are coming out next week as well. 

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, KingBrodd said:

This weeks Pre order everyone sort of saw coming, they had to drop the last PA before 9th Edition, though I do think this means we may see nothing for AOS untill after 9th, unless they drop a Warband for Warcry or Beastgrave the week before.

The next week is the last week before 9th. I hope we will see Beastgrave, Warcry and the GHB20. It's our last hope before August.

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34 minutes ago, Nezzhil said:

The next week is the last week before 9th. I hope we will see Beastgrave, Warcry and the GHB20. It's our last hope before August.

I have a feeling GHB20 will release after the Sons of Behemat now. Though I hope you're right and all this releases otherwise we have a full month if not two before anything AOS. 

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1 hour ago, Coyote said:

And as a non-40k player, personally I have no interest in anything 40k except as a release hurdle to get past to get more Skaven.

Me too. The most I want to do with 40K is to win one of the sets being given away by MiniWarGaming so that I can sell it and buy more AoS.

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2 hours ago, Coyote said:

And as a non-40k player, personally I have no interest in anything 40k except as a release hurdle to get past to get more Skaven.

 

1 hour ago, Oak7603 said:

Me too. The most I want to do with 40K is to win one of the sets being given away by MiniWarGaming so that I can sell it and buy more AoS.

I would start playing 40K if they decided to add new and interesting Xenos or at least update the current ones. 40K is basically devoted to Space Marines. 

I just hope when AOS 3.0 comes around 40K does still get some love during its release because it feels like AOS right now is on the back burner even with 2 brand new Factions releasing.

I'm just venting as I need my Sons and deep down am happy for 40K players.

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You mean like seeing a huge bunch of new and updated Necrons? 
Perhaps as some kind of big starter set with cool new models and revamping some of their oldest plastic designs? 

 

Xenos are like AoS in that its all extremes at present. Necrons, Genestealers, Tau mecha and Tyranids are all in good places right now broadly speaking. Eldar, Dark Eldar Orks and Xenos allies for Tau are where there are some weak points (orks are sort of half way between the two). 

 

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I think the most surprising thing for me is how slow the post lockdown release rate has been. When apocalypse released last year they put out 18 different boxes in a single week, many of them big army boxes. This  week we got just one box set. I feel like they could easily have put out the two underworlds warbands at the same time. 

Maybe they don't want to put strain on their warehouses and the factory which is fine if true but the overriding message right now seems to be - prioritise 40k. Who knows when we will see the next specialist games release.  Hopefully we will see a bunch of stuff next week before the 40k avalanche. 

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Dont' forget alongside new things they've got 2 months of production backlog on what they were already selling with most of the 3rd party market being drained of models for most ranges and their own stores were likely drained pretty fast once they came online as well. Before Corona GW was only just meeting demand and staying in-stock. Post Corona they've got a big backlog to fill; 2 months of missed production; reduced production capacity and also a major launch of a new edition of the game which they know will spike 40K sales across the board and especially in marine and necron lines. So chances are they are bulk producing those two forces and as many others as the ycan to try and overcome issues for their worldwide distribution.

 

All whilst they are likely unable to run the factory at full speed because their likely bottleneck is warehouse side. Packing and shipping. With their warehouse staff limited in number and likely having to use different working methods that might slow them down, that's all going to impact their speed.

 

 

I think many of us hoped that GW would speed things up, but it seems that they are sticking to their own speed, simply writing off the last two months and pushing things around more or less to settle them down. Chances are we might see them speed up later or they might even has pushed some things off release that we don't know of. If they had plans for a new specialist game later in this year or early next that might have been shelved or pushed to the side to make room etc.... 

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I argue that they can still release intellectual property (I.e books)  digitally though, and in fact it’s a poor choice to hold electronic copies back.

Posting digitally is almost (i know it’s not as easy as I make it out to be) free cash influx.

New book PDF?  My download doesn’t require printing or shipping.  Errata?  Release a new pdf, have me download the 1.01 version.

Just give me base sizes, points costs and rules - I’ll develop my own hype once models are available if want them.  If they need cash, and who doesn’t, they’re ridiculous to not take the cash for PDFs.

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6 hours ago, Overread said:

You mean like seeing a huge bunch of new and updated Necrons? 
Perhaps as some kind of big starter set with cool new models and revamping some of their oldest plastic designs? 

 

Xenos are like AoS in that its all extremes at present. Necrons, Genestealers, Tau mecha and Tyranids are all in good places right now broadly speaking. Eldar, Dark Eldar Orks and Xenos allies for Tau are where there are some weak points (orks are sort of half way between the two). 

 

I am very fond of Necrons which are being updated and I am interested in Chaos (as I can reuse some of my Slaves To Darkness models in a Chaos Space Marine army). I do not really understand why GW seems so reluctant to expand on Xenos armies or develop further new Xenos factions. As you mentioned there is limitless potential but three flavours of Space-Elves, Post Apocalyptic-Orcs and Robot Skeletons are sadly pretty uninspired.  
But overall, I am just not a big fan of the aesthetic of Space Marines and they dominate the line in such an overbearing manner. I am interested in getting the new 40k box for the necrons and maybe running Space Marines as Imperium and proxied-Chaos. My friends are also all pressuring me to try it out. But overall, I am more interested in the creative armies presented in AOS. I might instead just purchase the AOS Starter set and help my cousin expand his Legions of Nagash and start a new army of angelic lightening paladins. As divisive as Stormcast may be, they are more interesting to me than knockoff Imperial Stormtroopers.

However negativity does not suit me, so instead I will talk rumours. Does anyone know if any of GW staff was able to work from home on design or rules development? I know that model production was delayed but I am not sure how much of GW staff was laid off for that time?

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16 hours ago, Overread said:

You mean like seeing a huge bunch of new and updated Necrons? 
Perhaps as some kind of big starter set with cool new models and revamping some of their oldest plastic designs? 

 

Xenos are like AoS in that its all extremes at present. Necrons, Genestealers, Tau mecha and Tyranids are all in good places right now broadly speaking. Eldar, Dark Eldar Orks and Xenos allies for Tau are where there are some weak points (orks are sort of half way between the two). 

 

I meant more along the lines of adding new ones. They have an entire Galaxy and it seems they're really limiting themselves or at least know that the majority of their money is in Marines so dont want to risk creating a new Xeno army. If that's the reason it's sort of a problem they brought upon themselves.

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Well there's been wispers for awhile now pertaining to a Kroot codex and with Forgeworld no longer making those sweet Kroot models I'd wager this or something along those lines is in the works. 

Back to your regularly scheduled AoS programming. 

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1 hour ago, KingBrodd said:

I meant more along the lines of adding new ones. They have an entire Galaxy and it seems they're really limiting themselves or at least know that the majority of their money is in Marines so dont want to risk creating a new Xeno army. If that's the reason it's sort of a problem they brought upon themselves.

When was the last time a new Xenos faction was introduced? I swear it feels like we've been running with the same set of 40k factions for 20 years. I know Admech is relatively recent, but that's again another Imperium force, of which there are multitudes.

They recently released that one piece of art from the 9th edition book showing off a handful of alien races that exist in the universe, but aren't in the actual game. Those were brilliant.

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38 minutes ago, Mutton said:

When was the last time a new Xenos faction was introduced? I swear it feels like we've been running with the same set of 40k factions for 20 years. I know Admech is relatively recent, but that's again another Imperium force, of which there are multitudes.

They recently released that one piece of art from the 9th edition book showing off a handful of alien races that exist in the universe, but aren't in the actual game. Those were brilliant.

I honestly cannot remember, it must've been whenever Genestealer Cults got their own Codex and that army has been around in some capacity for decades before that. Hell as a NEW army it may go way back to the Tau so almost 20 years.

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1 hour ago, KingBrodd said:

I honestly cannot remember, it must've been whenever Genestealer Cults got their own Codex and that army has been around in some capacity for decades before that. Hell as a NEW army it may go way back to the Tau so almost 20 years.

Yeah GSC was released in 8th edition, but GeneStealers have been in the books and stuff for...forever. Hell I read a charcaradons story about a genestealer uprising they had to get through on a planet they'd visited for the red tithe to supplement their chapter.

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Genestealers have had two models for years - the stealers and the broodlord. That said as a cult I don't think they had models since the Rogue Trader days. So they are a returned army, but essentially brand new - especially when you look at how they fleshed them out. 

 

That said yes Tau are the newest army that's totally new to the game.

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1 hour ago, Ravinsild said:

Yeah GSC was released in 8th edition, but GeneStealers have been in the books and stuff for...forever. Hell I read a charcaradons story about a genestealer uprising they had to get through on a planet they'd visited for the red tithe to supplement their chapter.

The Carcharadon novels are pretty recent. They only came out in the last couple of years. After the GSC became a playable army again. 

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I would rather have a 2nd wave for all the current factions (soup like lon and cos excluded) than they keep releasing new armies. In 40k most armies have 20+ units to choose from.  Also you don't get crappy but mandatory terrain for your army.

40k has loads of stupid ****** to be fair though. See anything produced by forgeworld. 

 

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