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On 1/31/2020 at 2:20 PM, HollowHills said:

The only thing that makes me question 40k getting a new edition is the fact that the space marine codex is so new. I'd have thought if they were going to do a new edition it would come with a load of new marine models, new marine starter set and a new marine book. 

I still think they will announce 9th Ed 40k at Adepticon though and do the aos 2.0 style thing where the codices are kept in use. 

I don't really care though to be honest. It's hard to be into 40k when everything they release is so relentlessly focused on marines. Plus pretty much every decent army list is soupy as ****** and includes over priced forge world nonsense. 

In aos they do a good job of focusing on all the factions evenly and making sure you can run thematically coherent armies and still do well. 

There was a leaked photo from a couple of weeks back with even more new marine models (grav bikes and something else I don’t remember) so they’re far from done with the flood of marines.

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27 minutes ago, Public Universal Duardin said:

I really hope this is a proper army with a battletome rather than something smaller, as that possibility has once again reared it's ugly head. Then again, I am unsure how the Imperial Knight codex is comparable to other 40K codexes so GW might just follow the same pattern here.

Its the same essentially but just with fewer model options.

so it’ll have the same as any other battletome with traits, artefacts etc.

hopefully bag loads of fluff :)

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1 hour ago, Neinball said:

There was a leaked photo from a couple of weeks back with even more new marine models (grav bikes and something else I don’t remember) so they’re far from done with the flood of marines.

It was gravbikes and an updated Land Speeder-like model. 

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2 hours ago, BarfAtTheMoon said:

Here's a thing from the community website, sure looks different from the current giants...

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This is artwork from the old KO battletome, they could have had SoB planned way back then (although I doubt they did) but I really think this is just the artist taking some artistic license with the aleguzzler.

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8 minutes ago, Dirtnaps said:

This is artwork from the old KO battletome, they could have had SoB planned way back then (although I doubt they did) but I really think this is just the artist taking some artistic license with the aleguzzler.

Looks kind of similar to attack on titan

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2 hours ago, Kaleb Daark said:

Its the same essentially but just with fewer model options.

so it’ll have the same as any other battletome with traits, artefacts etc.

hopefully bag loads of fluff :)

Looking at the price of an Aleguzzler in $, it seems pretty close to the "smaller" units accompanying the Knights of 40K...which would fit with the idea that Aleguzzlers are the battleline choice of SoB

8 minutes ago, 123lac said:

Looks kind of similar to attack on titan

Whoever fields Gargants and doesn't play the soundtrack of Attack on Titan is playing wrong.

Back when the show originally came out I painted - or at least attempted to - a WHFB Giant/Aleguzzler Gargant into the Colossal Titan of the show.

 

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I think there must be some element of the Sons of Behamut release we're not seeing. While I wouldn't be surprised if the army was simply Bragg and the aleguzzler kits, it doesn't seem...feasible as a whole faction.

1) There'd be zero diversity or ways to play the thing, aside from potential mini-faction rules, which, even in themselves would be highly limited with so few warscrolls.
2) They're selling us warscrolls for the army. So are they going to sell us 2 cards and maybe one sheet of tokens? Seems like a stretch. Although GW's greed knows no bounds, so who can say?
3) It feels unlikely anyone would be able to convince John Businessman that they could release an entirely new army (warscroll cards, tome, and all) with only two models in the range. It's not enough to build up marketing hype.

So my guess is that there are going to be more models than we can anticipate (or multikits), OR the whole Sons of Behamut thing isn't a full army, but rather some kind of mercenary sub-faction for Destruction.

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41 minutes ago, Mutton said:

OR the whole Sons of Behamut thing isn't a full army, but rather some kind of mercenary sub-faction for Destruction.

Man, I hope not. That would be such a disappointing waste of potential.

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35 minutes ago, Mutton said:

I think there must be some element of the Sons of Behamut release we're not seeing. While I wouldn't be surprised if the army was simply Bragg and the aleguzzler kits, it doesn't seem...feasible as a whole faction.

1) There'd be zero diversity or ways to play the thing, aside from potential mini-faction rules, which, even in themselves would be highly limited with so few warscrolls.
2) They're selling us warscrolls for the army. So are they going to sell us 2 cards and maybe one sheet of tokens? Seems like a stretch. Although GW's greed knows no bounds, so who can say?
3) It feels unlikely anyone would be able to convince John Businessman that they could release an entirely new army (warscroll cards, tome, and all) with only two models in the range. It's not enough to build up marketing hype.

So my guess is that there are going to be more models than we can anticipate (or multikits), OR the whole Sons of Behamut thing isn't a full army, but rather some kind of mercenary sub-faction for Destruction.

This makes sense to me. I do think it's a new proper faction because there were warscroll cards, but the models could act like a mercenary faction and therefore the tome includes all the different rules for other mixing with other factions. Maybe? Dunno on that one. Seems most likely that more units surely have to be coming, as you said.

Then again, GW are GW and they're not exactly against releasing small armies with limited kits. Flesh Eater Courts are an example. There are a total of 4 kits? Can't quite remember. Not to mention Archaon and the Varanguard are considered a viable way to play by GW. So maybe they view each gargant model as having their own rules, plus a multipart new hero that is massive like Archaon, terrain and endless spells, and they make up the lack of extra units by having some allying/mercenary capacity?

I'm not saying I think that's a good idea. Just that seeing the Warscroll Cards shipped this far in advance makes me think it's somewhere in the nearish future rather than ages away, and I can't see them doing a proper expanded new army so close to Lumineth. Just a gut feeling, I suppose.

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3 minutes ago, TheShogun said:

 

Does anyone know if the FEC got warscroll cards? I thought they got some in Carrion Empire but I don't know about outside of that. They're a small faction so that sets a precedent.

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This is nasty

 

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35 minutes ago, TheShogun said:

Does anyone know if the FEC got warscroll cards? I thought they got some in Carrion Empire but I don't know about outside of that. They're a small faction so that sets a precedent.

I believe they did, but like all warscroll cards it would be one shipment and once out of stock GW doesn't seem to order more. Dice have been left out of one or two factions here and there (eg Slaanesh didn't get any faction dice); however warscroll cards I believe have been released for every single faction so far with a 2.0 Battletome. 

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, Mutton said:

I think there must be some element of the Sons of Behamut release we're not seeing. While I wouldn't be surprised if the army was simply Bragg and the aleguzzler kits, it doesn't seem...feasible as a whole faction.

1) There'd be zero diversity or ways to play the thing, aside from potential mini-faction rules, which, even in themselves would be highly limited with so few warscrolls.
2) They're selling us warscrolls for the army. So are they going to sell us 2 cards and maybe one sheet of tokens? Seems like a stretch. Although GW's greed knows no bounds, so who can say?
3) It feels unlikely anyone would be able to convince John Businessman that they could release an entirely new army (warscroll cards, tome, and all) with only two models in the range. It's not enough to build up marketing hype.

So my guess is that there are going to be more models than we can anticipate (or multikits), OR the whole Sons of Behamut thing isn't a full army, but rather some kind of mercenary sub-faction for Destruction.

The Imperial Knights army literally launched with one kit, and that’s all they had for like 3 years. 

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If I remember correctly the Knights didn't get a codex of their own until the other kits were released though, right?  They were just available to imperial factions as a stand-alone piece before that?

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Knights got two codexes with a single kit (maybe two if we count the warden variant)

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Their where also the Armigers, if I recall correctly, they where release first in the Forgebane box, but where release separately when IK codex came out with the other variant 

they released the  Castellan/ Valiant was a new kit and Canis Rex came out a bit later after the codex drop

Warden/Gallant/Crusader kit existed before the codex.

 

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I am very curious to see if they keep the current kit. If they keep it there could be at least two warscrolls from that kit. A new bigger kit could build a couple of elite options and then we could have a hero kit with options for warrior, mage and special character. 

Personally I hope they take a step away from the potbellied drunkard aesthetic towards something more menacing but that might be an unpopular opinion. 

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1 hour ago, Chikout said:

Personally I hope they take a step away from the potbellied drunkard aesthetic towards something more menacing

I say do both. Have the proper ones with their stones and clubs and glimmer of menacing intellect, and then have their, um, "remote cousins" who are visiting from the boonies.

Have a rule called "Aww No, Who Invited Them" that does something to reflect embarrassment over the trashy relatives.

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15 hours ago, TheShogun said:

Does anyone know if the FEC got warscroll cards? I thought they got some in Carrion Empire but I don't know about outside of that. They're a small faction so that sets a precedent.

Yes they did 

17 cards and 2 token sheets to be fair, I would struggle to see that amount from one or two kits...

FEC is also 5 kits including the Varghulf Courtier. Also how can a 2 units faction have endless spells? All wizards? The King is a wizard and the spells can be used only by him? I doubt 

If they sell cards it means there’s a decent amount available cause otherwise you can just use the Battletome open to that page...

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The knights had a sort of slow-grow situation, starting from a codex with one kit and two units/warscrolls/datasheets, moving to an updated kit with five warscrolls in a new codex, and now have a codex with 3-4 kits and ten warscolls. And a sizeable chaos equivalent with an additional kit and two more builds.

In that, they followed GW's changing feelings about the viability of a faction built around big guys, from initial caution (a bunch of the model options were left on the table and according to Jes Goodwin then put into development literally weeks after the first IK release, when they saw how good the sales numbers were) to making it a fairly fully fledged faction. 

Sons of Behemat would not necessarily be starting from a standing position of one kit. To a degree imperial knights have set out the path and proven that big dude armies of a handful of units can work. I wouldn't go in expecting loads of new boxes and I doubt they'd have the same appeal as knights do in 40k but maybe two new kits with multiple builds and a battletome of 5-6 warscrolls . Doesn't seem too much to expect.

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15 hours ago, xking said:

This is nasty

 

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I think that's actually the best Nurgle Blightking mini so far... and there are a lot.

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hmm they still also have to release the remaining Sister of Battle stuff this month too

Seraphon is probably going to be release either on the 22 or 29

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46 minutes ago, Overread said:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/02/02/new-tau-new-titans-and-more/

New AT Titan models and sets, new Xenos awakening book (Tau based with new model) so a general 40K and specialist games week next. 

Not AoS related, but as someone that was glacially slow building a Genestealer Cult army, I am pretty disappointed the Start Collecting has the Ridge Runner and not the Goliath Truck included.  I was counting on the Start Collecting featuring the truck to finally finish my army.  Now, I don't know if I ever will finish it. Being both a horde army and the models being, even for GW, all the money.

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