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From DakkaDakka (I have no idea how true it is):

Recent shipping bill lists "WARSCROLL CARDS SONS OF BEHEMAT" so it looks like the Aleguzzler Gargants are coming soon. 

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2 hours ago, plavski said:

Seraphon are getting cards for Warcry. Squatting conversation is done.

Ah yes, just like models in mercenary companies are safe.

Organ gun, Cannon, General on Horse...

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17 minutes ago, zilberfrid said:

Ah yes, just like models in mercenary companies are safe.

Organ gun, Cannon, General on Horse...

They wrote a few lines in a book and said "hey, here are mercenary companies."

They did rules, art design, printing, packaging and shipping for multi-language Warcry cards and printed campaigns for them in the Annual. Your comparison holds as much water as a Slann that sat on a Razordon.

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visitng this site:
https://cn.panjiva.com/Asia-Pacific-Offset-Ltd/1367220
Currently I can see Sons of Behemat warscroll cards on a shipping manifest dated Jan 20, 2020. 

If I use google cache:
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:5P7vMnnxr-wJ:https://panjiva.com/Games-Workshop/46006013+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
I can see Seraphon Warscroll cards going to GW memphis warehouse on Jan 18, 2020

To find this i googled "warscroll cards sons of behemat" and "warscroll cards seraphon" site:panjiva.com

Is this legit? 

edit: also found "Blood Bowl Underworld Old World Pitch" and "Aeronatica Imperialis Taros Board".  To find different things just google "games workshop" site:panjiva.com, and look at the cached version of the various pages. 

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15 minutes ago, sorokyl said:

Sons of Behemat warscroll cards on a shipping manifest dated Jan 20, 2020. 

If that is true then the Gargant faction might be coming way sooner than expected. I didn't think we'd see it before Pointy Elves as it would also be a major release even if they keep the old giant kit.

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Just now, Forrix said:

If that is true then the Gargant faction might be coming way sooner than expected. I didn't think we'd see it before Pointy Elves as it would also be a major release even if they keep the old giant kit.

I mean keep in mind that books/cards could sit at the warehouse for months before release. With the issues they had with Sylvaneth, You'd rather get your product from china earlier than later.   I assume they pick their release schedule based on what's ready to go. I think this just means that it is coming in the next few months. Maybe before pointy aelves, maybe after.  Unfortunately this site is not on the wayback machine so it's not possible to see the full history (I guess unless you have an account there) 

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2 minutes ago, sorokyl said:

I mean keep in mind that books/cards could sit at the warehouse for months before release. With the issues they had with Sylvaneth, You'd rather get your product from china earlier than later.   I assume they pick their release schedule based on what's ready to go. I think this just means that it is coming in the next few months. Maybe before pointy aelves, maybe after.  Unfortunately this site is not on the wayback machine so it's not possible to see the full history (I guess unless you have an account there) 

There was also the Astrolitic Monolith a few months ago. We havent seen that yet. Maybe that was the Seraphon Terrain and the main release had been pushed back? 

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Oh no...an army of giants? Giants are just bigger Ogors...*powerful sweating*

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Now, the question remains, are they going to be Destruction? Destruction deserves a new faction. But if GW wants to replicate the Knights success they have to aim for the biggest audiance. 

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3 minutes ago, Gecktron said:

Now, the question remains, are they going to be Destruction? Destruction deserves a new faction. But if GW wants to replicate the Knights success they have to aim for the biggest audiance. 

If the rumor mill picks I think are giants wind up being that then I think they are pretty much destruction through and through. That said, they could be the first "Gold" faction and be both Destruction and Chaos (going off of WFB having giants and chaos giants). I'd say most likely just destruction followed by destruction and Chaos followed by just Chaos in terms of likelihood. Pretty much 0% chance of order or death unless I'm seriously off about rumor engine pics.

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16 minutes ago, Gecktron said:

Now, the question remains, are they going to be Destruction? Destruction deserves a new faction. But if GW wants to replicate the Knights success they have to aim for the biggest audiance. 

When the current Giant kit first came out it was sold on having four variants for the different armies that used them - Ogre Kingdoms, Orcs & Goblins, Beasts of Chaos and Dogs of War. It could be they try and push it as a centre piece model for 'every' army with different variants. That seems unlikely however, as I don't recall a time when GW has ever released a 'neutral' army book aside from Dogs of War.

More likely it seems to be a Destruction release, if only because of the giant shield Rumour Engine we had a few days back with the proportionally tiny Ironbreaker shield attached to it. 

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I suppose they could hard-code several possible builds of the kit each as a different unit.  Make four or five warscrolls out of the one kit.  Like, the guy with the big stick is one unit, and a guy with an empty hand is another, and the gut plate guy, and others.

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2 hours ago, Still-young said:

From DakkaDakka (I have no idea how true it is):

Recent shipping bill lists "WARSCROLL CARDS SONS OF BEHEMAT" so it looks like the Aleguzzler Gargants are coming soon. 

Yes! Give me my ridiculous but very cool gargant faction GW.

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1 hour ago, Forrix said:

If that is true then the Gargant faction might be coming way sooner than expected. I didn't think we'd see it before Pointy Elves as it would also be a major release even if they keep the old giant kit.

The shipping leaks we've gotten in the past have all been accurate, but usually around 2 months in advance, or more.

Still, it's good confirmation that something is probably coming in the next 1-4 months at the very latest.

Note we don't have a leak for pointy aelf warscroll cards, but we also don't know the faction name yet, so hard to search for.

Also, just based on these leaks and that way that Hysh Hysh hint was structured, I'm betting on a Pointy Aelves vs Giant Faction battlebox.

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26 minutes ago, Clan's Cynic said:

When the current Giant kit first came out it was sold on having four variants for the different armies that used them - Ogre Kingdoms, Orcs & Goblins, Beasts of Chaos and Dogs of War. It could be they try and push it as a centre piece model for 'every' army with different variants. That seems unlikely however, as I don't recall a time when GW has ever released a 'neutral' army book aside from Dogs of War.

My biggest recent disappointment was that:

- there was NO gargant (and synergies) in the new Ogor battletome

- there was NO (chaos) gargant (and synergies) in the new  StD battletome.

This is a double missed opportunity by GW. 

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9 minutes ago, GeneralZero said:

My biggest recent disappointment was that:

- there was NO gargant (and synergies) in the new Ogor battletome

- there was NO (chaos) gargant (and synergies) in the new  StD battletome.

This is a double missed opportunity by GW. 

Why would they put gargants in the Gloomspite battletome AND Ogor battletome.  Beast of Chaos AND Slaves to darkness. They don't really fit in any, but they had to put them in ONE, because they were cleaning up their range (all models in a modern 2.0 battletome, or scraped).    I think they will only put a unit in multiple battletomes when it makes sense thematically (nagash in nighthaunt and bonereapers, because he's the big boss..... tzaangors in BoC and Tzeench, because they are tzeentchy beastmen) 

Now that they are getting their own army, you'll find that they will likely be removed from the next GSG battletome.  I don't know the fate of the chaos gargant, though. 
 

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11 minutes ago, GeneralZero said:

My biggest recent disappointment was that:

- there was NO gargant (and synergies) in the new Ogor battletome

- there was NO (chaos) gargant (and synergies) in the new  StD battletome.

This is a double missed opportunity by GW. 

Curious to see if the Gargant book is designed more like a grand alliance compendium of different unit types. A different kit or two for each alliance can build out each alliances unit types with differing ally rules for each.

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Well I guess this is where I admit I was wrong about there not being a giant faction like 50 pages or so ago....

You happy now GW?!?!

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1 minute ago, willange said:

Well I guess this is where I admit I was wrong about there not being a giant faction like 50 pages or so ago....

You happy now GW?!?!

I am ;) 

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So the Gargants are confirmed, and after High Elves no less.

 

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3 minutes ago, Kronos said:

So the Gargants are confirmed, and after High Elves no less.

 

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Forget the promise of saving and stinginess, for in the grim dark present there is only spending. There is no peace among bank accounts, only an eternity of new releases and magnificent models, and the laughter of Games Workshop stockholders.

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3 hours ago, sorokyl said:

visitng this site:
https://cn.panjiva.com/Asia-Pacific-Offset-Ltd/1367220
Currently I can see Sons of Behemat warscroll cards on a shipping manifest dated Jan 20, 2020. 

If I use google cache:
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:5P7vMnnxr-wJ:https://panjiva.com/Games-Workshop/46006013+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
I can see Seraphon Warscroll cards going to GW memphis warehouse on Jan 18, 2020

To find this i googled "warscroll cards sons of behemat" and "warscroll cards seraphon" site:panjiva.com

Is this legit? 

edit: also found "Blood Bowl Underworld Old World Pitch" and "Aeronatica Imperialis Taros Board".  To find different things just google "games workshop" site:panjiva.com, and look at the cached version of the various pages. 

Super excited for a Gargant army! :D 

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I believe if you doubted, now all that Seraphon squatting talk should be permanently put to rest. 😉

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