The Rumour Thread

[DantePQ]

For sure it's new faction , updating Ogors or Orruks few months after update doesn't make much sense. 

[Fulcanelli]

3 minutes ago, DantePQ said:

For sure it's new faction , updating Ogors or Orruks few months after update doesn't make much sense. 

I agree, but it could be Warcry stuff.

[calcysimon]

These are the unsolved aos engines, mechanical engines are 40k probably so not reported in here

 

 

Edited January 14, 2020 by calcysimon

[JPjr]

3 minutes ago, calcysimon said:

These are the unsolved aos engines, mechanical engines are 40k probably

 

 

Top one here is the new Tau Shadowsun model coming our with the Greater Good book, bottom one is the Warcry Sphinx cat creature.

 

oh and the flame one is from the Scions of Flame Warcry warband.

Edited January 14, 2020 by JPjr

[Kronos]

If they’re light elves then sure they must be from Alffheim.

 

 

A giant Army seems possible, there’s already a fairly versatile Gargant kit out. Add in a Big Gargant Kit with say 3+ build option, and maybe one more very specific unit also modular, (like an artillery version of the exsisting Gargant kit, and you end up with:

-a Hero, or two (From big beefy new kit)

-How ever many builds GW would allocate the existing kit.

-However many builds from the artillery/archer kit.

-specialist build from the same beefy kit (just like the Dankhold)

 

And for added measure you can add AFW Bonegrinder to spice it up. Test the waters of Gargant builds for say three years (sometime before Seraphon) and maybe update again with terrain, dice and some spells.

 

 

 

 

[prochuvi]

A shame that we get new dispossesed bits with glomspite rock troll and the troll hero and now with this giant shield we get other dispossesed bit(that is a ironbreaker shield 100%) but disposesed didnt get any tome and only a shameful soap(1 page of lore in all the tome for dispossesed) and also 0 new minis and 50% of the units deleted....

[Baron Klatz]

It makes sense at least, all their holds in the realms got taken over by the endless daemon floods and they got kicked out into the realm of heavens for 500 years and their relics have been up for grabs as monsters & daemons infested all their homes making them dispossessed.

Just now, JPjr said:

oh and the flame one is from the Scions of Flame Warcry warband

Exactly what I was thinking.

Also isn't the scaley tail from the new Slaves to Darkness leader?

Edited January 14, 2020 by Baron Klatz

[Still-young]

2 minutes ago, Baron Klatz said:

It makes at least, all their holds in the realms got taken over by the endless daemon floods and they got kicked out into the realm of heaven so for 500 years their relics have been up for grabs as monsters & daemons infested all their homes making them dispossessed.

Exactly what I was thinking.

Also isn't the scaley tail from the new Slaves to Darkness leader?

The tail doesn’t match. 

[Baron Klatz]

Whoops, my mistake then.

Just now, tom0tom said:

please GW, would it be possible to have all the rules, FAQ, points and (let’s dream) faction warscrolls in ONE place?… I am prepared to pay a subscription fee to have it all in an app, or to pay a reasonable amount on demand for each update. Right now I am not psychologically prepared to pay for a book sold with other stuff that I am not interest in (Forbidden Power…) just to get a couple of pages I would need, and which will anyway be obsolete in a couple of months. With an app and a subscription I would probably spend (even  J) more, GW would be happy and life would be much simpler!

Isn't that the purpose of the  Azyr army builder in the AoS app?

As for the other two points I would say to the first try some narrative and open play games if things stay too one-sided. Lots of different battleplans and scenarios can shift fights around compared to head-on battles.

And on the second point you should reply on their Facebook if you want GW's attention. If you want them to make changes it's definitely important to be on their when they holding faq and gameplay inquiries for community input.

That aside, welcome to the hobby and hope you and your sons continue to have fun!

[calcysimon]

I think the same as others above

 

They could easily make a new "giants army" with gargants and trolls in it filling the model variety with 3-4 more kits

Only the dunk hold troggoth is specific from the gobbo caves all others are not strongly related to them

[Sunchaser]

7 hours ago, GeneralZero said:

 

PS: LVO has been claimed by GW as the biggest event, ever, for them. (biggest LVO it seems 😎). So, some reveeal are expected here. Hense the relatively poor reveal of open day...

Why does everyone keep saying LVO. it's not LVO it's Adepticon... As they have said multiple times on Warhammer community. Here's a literal quote. LVO reveals will be minimal and likely not full release of pointy. Especially since they have already said Spring 2020 for the elves... Which wouldn't you know is right after adepticon.

 

"2020’s AdeptiCon Warhammer Preview is going to be the BIGGEST and BEST Warhammer preview EVER. In fact, it’s so massive that we’ve commandeered more space, so we can fit in as many Warhammer fans as possible to experience the sheer majesty of the reveals. Start bracing yourself now…"

 

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/11/08/warhammer-at-adepticon-2020gw-homepage-post-4/

[Baron Klatz]

Fans like to get hyped. Happens all the time. (See the game awards from the end of last year for an example )

 

Just now, Gothmaug said:

Has there been any hint that we’re getting a gargant army, as opposed to a single gargant mercenary model or something? I know the community page alluded to something “big” coming in the near future, but an entire gargant army seems  out of place. Especially in the current meta where hordes, board control, and action economy play such an important role. 
 

 That does lend support that they could be Warcry or even Beastgrave(remember that awesome White Dwarf scenario last year of a chaos gargant rampaging through Shadespire?)

But it's possible they just have powerful abilities to make them anti-horde and do weird stuff like place scenery down on objectives (huge Behemet obilisks) so they don't have to hold them. GW likes to push the big elite armies for Destruction m like Troggoths, Beastclaws and Ironjawz so it's not out of the blue.

[Vasshpit]

Didnt Gargant lore get retconned and they were the original inhabitants of azyr along with dragon--ogors?

Now with big pappa Gordrakk planning to siege Azyr I'm sure the gargants want a piece as well. 

[Kugane]

New rumour engine. I don't know about you people, but that looks as Ogor as it can get to me. The shield is the same as the one on the Stonehorn.

Edit: My bad, it was already posted.

 

Edited January 14, 2020 by Kugane

[Whitefang]

22 minutes ago, Vasshpit said:

Didnt Gargant lore get retconned and they were the original inhabitants of azyr along with dragon--ogors?

Now with big pappa Gordrakk planning to siege Azyr I'm sure the gargants want a piece as well. 

No they are scions of godbeast behemat

[Baron Klatz]

Could go either way. Like back in the Realmgate Wars there was Ogors the Stormcast fought that used gigantic shields for their own shieldwall. These would be around that size but Gargants are also possible because this fits them too along with the "giant hammer" rumour engine.

Just now, Vasshpit said:

Didnt Gargant lore get retconned and they were the original inhabitants of azyr along with dragon--ogors?

Now with big pappa Gordrakk planning to siege Azyr I'm sure the gargants want a piece as well. 

Nah,  if that's mentioned then it's a reference to their original 2015 warscrolls which had a mention that scholars believed they came from another world, so coming from Azyr which has the star and planet systems just reinforces that original lore.

Gargants just come from multiple realms same as the other races did. So far we have Behemat's sons in Ghyran, the Steppe Titans of Aqshy which were magic-using sky titans that worked for the Khanate and warded it from Khorne and the other world(Azyr) gargants.

If we do get an Gargant faction i'm hopeful it'll expand on all these subfactions and more.

Lore for the lore throne!

Edited January 14, 2020 by Baron Klatz

[Gothmaug]

Well at this point I hope it’s something for destruction, be it ogre armor, gargant belly plates or the prow of a grot blimp

 

Or a big shield carried by a megaboss on goregrunta! Hey an ironjawz player can dream, can’t he? 

Edited January 14, 2020 by Gothmaug

[Baron Klatz]

Haha, please be the last one to go with that sail!

[SaJeel]

4 hours ago, JPjr said:

it's from a dual kit Ogor Frost King / OverTyrant.

FACT

 

A while back there was some concept art of a "butcher/frostking on mount" I havent ever been able to find that piece of art since the firsttime I saw it, it was a leaner more predatory beast... anyone know what im talking about or did i just hallucinate this in a fever dream?

[obaobaboss]

2 hours ago, calcysimon said:

These are the unsolved aos engines, mechanical engines are 40k probably so not reported in here

This one is also the Sphiranx

[Myrdin]

Spoiler

 

2 hours ago, tom0tom said:

Hi there,

 

First of all thanks for the exchanges, I’m learning a lot from you guys!

 

Reading your comments about rumors and upcoming AoS updates, just a couple of thoughts from a recent player. I dived into AoS a year ago with my two sons, starting from scratch, and we really invested into it (with all the meanings of the term…).

We love the game … but…

1. discovering little by little that the army in which you put some much love and hope (and money) is just ****** on the competitive stage can be a salty experience. I read here and there that before choosing an army you can just get informed but 1- it’s not that easy for beginners who need time to understand how the game plays and 2- imo armies go up and down on the power curve way too fast - factions that were considered as competitive one year ago are now just average in the meta

2. I do not understand the GW power creep. One of my son is playing OBR and yes they are OP! Maybe not for good players who can afford to permanently change their faction to follow the meta. But take my other son who plays SCE - even on a non-competitive basis the gap is so big that it sometimes simply kills the game. I appreciate that GW needs sales but at the end of day, at least as far as I am concerned, this is a deterrent and they miss their target. I am not willing to invest into a full army of models which will be out of the game two months after I finished painting them. I would probably buy more if things were a little bit more subtle

3. please GW, would it be possible to have all the rules, FAQ, points and (let’s dream) faction warscrolls in ONE place?… I am prepared to pay a subscription fee to have it all in an app, or to pay a reasonable amount on demand for each update. Right now I am not psychologically prepared to pay for a book sold with other stuff that I am not interest in (Forbidden Power…) just to get a couple of pages I would need, and which will anyway be obsolete in a couple of months. With an app and a subscription I would probably spend (even  J) more, GW would be happy and life would be much simpler!

Oh I get you. Trust me.

I was a die hard BoC fanboy for a while now, and I was shedding salty tears when I compare the StD and CoS battletomes, both of which are fairly well balanced compared to the top 3 competitive meta armies.

Heck even well balanced as they are, they completely overshadow everything BoC have. So I am fully understanding of your position. When OBR and Ogors came out It literally killed my joy for the army to such a degree I shelved them. Currently I work on my CoS and even returned back and started working on my DoK that I left untouched since BoC released about a year or so ago. Thats how bad the power creep is. And its no fun, as there are clearly fantastic books that are quite fair, yet still powerful enough to be fun.

***

Now regarding the Rumormill.... hell... I`lbe damned, but I see there a potentially new Dragon Ogor Shaggoth, when I combine 2 or 3 picks. Might be just my wishful thinking for the big daddy Kolek Suneater to make return and finally getting an update on the ancient Shaggoth miniature that literally looks like it came from another era (which it technically did ).

Dragon Ogors in general would be nice and deserving an update but the Shaggoth NEEDS it, heck maybe even more than the equally ancient Centigors.

On the other hand it just might be some new Maneaters hero and a Seraphon or something like that, so I am not really holding my breath >___<

Edited January 14, 2020 by Myrdin

[GutZilla]

God, a Gargant faction with trolls included would be amazing. Just inject that right into my veins. 

[HollowHills]

I mean a gargant faction sort of makes sense. What else can they put in destruction? It's not something I'm personally interested in at all. That said if we get it well done aos team for actually supporting all the grand alliances with big releases, as opposed to 40k and the space marine spam. 

I still sincerely hope that the rumour engine with corals and barnacles is deepkin related though. We've suffered a lot from being the last book to release pre 2.0.

 

[Overread]

The one issue with a gargant faction where most models are sized and priced like Knights is that many people don't make a knights army out of thin air. I'd wager a good number of knight players in 40K run regular armies first. Basically GW released knights and kept adding new versions and additions to them until such time as there was basically a good portion of the market who already had enough knights to field a whole army or who only needed encouragement to field a whole army of them.

 

For AoS whilst GW has had good luck with things like Keepers of Slaanesh; I'd wager launching a brand new army that's only got £80 ish models in it might backfire. Whilst in theory simple to collect the sticker shock could be an issue; esp if its a totally new force. Of course this is all just pie in the sky theories; we've no real idea what was meant by the "giant" comment. One giant model; a hundred; a whole army; one race; an expansion etc... Heck it could even just be that the new "pointy Aelves" is the biggest new army release for GW in terms of models (ergo being closer to Sisters of Battle in scale of what GW releases instead of say DoK or Bonereapers). 

[Aelfric]

Is it possible that the  rumour shield is bing carried by a giant Orruk - after all Orruks just keep getting larger and there doesn't seem to be a limit to it.  Gordrakk would prefer to use gigantic Orruks rather than Gargants.