Dreadmund Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Could it be something for Aeronautica Imperialis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkanaut Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Looks more Sigmar to me. Probably a new faction. It’s too low tech to be ko though. Also GW has made it abundantly clear they hate KO players so that leaves us out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarbossKurgan Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, TheNotebookGM said: I wish we knew how long Rumor Engine lead times were... what if I start buying Cities and then Sky Grots happen!?! The oldest currently unsolved rumour engine is from April this year. I think the longest gap between rumour and reveal is 18 months. (The shortest was minus 2 days! It was revealed before the rumour engine image was published.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarbossKurgan Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 1 hour ago, JackdawGin said: Very similar to the Ad-Mech. From the repeated cog pattern to the mix of high tech and low. The big tell is the tiny spikes, which are just like those that are on Dragoon's feet. Seems like there are common design elements to me... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Baumann Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 On 11/4/2019 at 3:40 AM, PaniuBraniu said: All hail to the silent hero within GW, who against all odds, had successfully convinced everybody, that knights should ride proper regular horses! What a surprise after all these AOS dinodogs, rhinocats, eels etc. These do not look like regular horses... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackdawGin Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, Travis Baumann said: These do not look like regular horses... Those are Varanguard, not Chaos Knights 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ointagru Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 3 hours ago, SpectralHunter said: I don't think it is 40k not technological enough. it is too clean for grots/skaven, it doesn't have the aesthetic of KO as their flying units are all big balloons. Aelves aren't really technological and free people just came out with a book. Clockwork soldiers as mentioned in the stormvault fiction? Though I am pretty sure it is not. A kharadron ornithopter is mentioned in the novel Overlords of the Iron Dragon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travis Baumann Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 1 hour ago, JackdawGin said: Those are Varanguard, not Chaos Knights I didn't realize... thought they were just showing alternate builds to the new SC in this picture Those guys look pretty cool and fit right in with the new guys. I never looked at Varanguard before somehow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPjr Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, Travis Baumann said: Those guys look pretty cool and fit right in with the new guys. I never looked at Varanguard before somehow. well seeing as they're around a million quid each that's understandable. actually will be interesting to see if with the new book they make them more financially viable as they are cool models. I know GW never ever seems to drop the price of a standalone product once it's out but if they bring out some kind of infantry option I could see them bundling them with the Gaunt Summoner in a a Start Collecting Everchosen box. But we shall see... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 The problem Varanguard always had is that they are priced as leaders at around £20 each but GW tried to sell them under Everchosen as a battleline model. I think if they became more like leaders and heavy hitters - a pure elite unit - then at least one set per army would see more table time. The models themelves are big and look fantastic, they are just priced wrong for their (current) army slot position. Even though ,all told, they are not actually that "expensive" when you compare them to the price of a full army (its just that an Everchosen army of just Acharon and Varanguard and a gaunt summoner isn't as interesting) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calcysimon Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 What I am expecting is Varanguards taking a huge buff, I hope it, they deserve it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michu Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 (edited) Yeah, maybe they will be fielded now if they will be good as elite unit in non-everchosen StD army. Single purchase of them is easier to justify. Edited November 5, 2019 by michu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldarain Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 They could always do the old double the models for less than double the price adjustment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedMax Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 14 minutes ago, Eldarain said: They could always do the old double the models for less than double the price adjustment Or as for Fireslayer, do a start collecting box with them. I would be happy to buy 6 of them packed with... why not... Archaon, for a SC price 😜 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtnaps Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 1 hour ago, calcysimon said: What I am expecting is Varanguards taking a huge buff, I hope it, they deserve it It makes sense lore wise for them to be insanely powerful or at least way better than they currently are as well, if they did give them a substantial buff (with appropriate point cost) then that while also taking into account the extra bits and options of the kit might justify the price. They might be ridiculously expensive but boy are they cool to look at, I really wish you could make a Slaanesh themed one as well though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djoblo Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 11 hours ago, GeneralZero said: I just got an idea: for those who already have the classic knights, buy & use the new ones as varanguards! Maybe with a bit of kitbash? I don't see the point of the varanguards price: you get 3 riders. At the SAME price (even LESS !) you got the new SC! with 5 knights, a big hero on monster and 10 new warriors. Varanguards are like to times bigger in length and Height. Just no. I'm totally in proxy when it's creative not when it's cheap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralZero Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 I didn't know that. I googled it and indeed, they are way bigger. It explains a bit the price. They are very big cavalry. As big as a dracothian. But why not the same price as him then....GW mistery.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 It might simply be because originally Varanguard were designed to be the battalion option for an army of very few models whilst the dracothian was designed to be one of many within a much larger and more diverse army. So the Dracothain's costs and such might (I stress that might) have been partly rolled into investment in the whole army not just one or two individual models. Meanwhile the Varanguard was on its own more or less and thus might have had to have made up more of its own profits and expenses as a single model rather than as one part of a much wider army diversity. However such theories are only theories, we've no real idea how GW individually balances investments on that level. They do publish their finances each year (as they are a publicly trading company on the stock market) but these are only overview numbers that present things at a more overall level; rather than drilling into the specifics and pricing policies etc... It's basically designed for investors to get an overall idea of the companies major product lines and profits and investments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 22 minutes ago, GeneralZero said: I didn't know that. I googled it and indeed, they are way bigger. It explains a bit the price. They are very big cavalry. As big as a dracothian. But why not the same price as him then....GW mistery.... Varanguard are £60 for Three. Dracoth are £40 for two, so they're pretty much the same cost. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimrock Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 (edited) I've wanted an excuse to pick up a unit of varanguard for ages, but they've never justified the massive cost and hobby investment. I'm really hopeful this book gives me a reason to buy them! It's tricky for GW though. Varanguard need to be elite enough to justify a big points cost, thereby justifying the big monetary cost, but when things are that expensive it's super easy to be too strong or too weak. Same goes for Archaon, but the way Nagash is sitting gives me some hope. Edited November 6, 2019 by Grimrock 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyriakin Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Out of curiousity, Azgorh aside (and OOP/eBay, obviously), what "fundamental" unit (i.e. one you could reasonably make the bulk of your army) has the worst points-to-dollar ratio in the game? I always felt that a Spite Revenant Dreadwood-type army would be insane. Getting pretty close to a dollar-per-point for those guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alghero81 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 (edited) @Kyriakin on that I can help you as I have an Excel with every single AoS miniature with stats and other. The top point per pound (dollar should be similar ratio) unit in AoS is the Giant Rats. You need 2 boxes of 25£ each to make a 10-rat unit valid 60 points (0.83 ratio). Arguably the box comes with other stuff, but if you only want Giant Rats, that's your price. At the same place and more fundamental you have Skryre Acolytes, with their new price of 10£ per model, you need 5 blisters for 60 points, making it the most expensive essential battleline (0.83 ratio). The most expensive pure battleline would be Zombies for Legions of Nagash, 60 points for 22.5£ at a 0.38 ratio. The most expensive ForgeWorld per point is the Dreadquake Mortar of Legion of Azgorh, with 0.51 ratio. And finally the most expensive Leader is the Bloodthirster with 85£ for 270 points (0.31 ratio). Anyone interested in useless stats feel free to ping me privately 😂 Ah I forgot, you were not far with the Spite-Revenants being quite high, they are 4th battleline per ratio (0.42), the 3rd being the Saurus Guard at 0.44. Edited November 6, 2019 by alghero81 added Spite-Revenant stats 9 1 5 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, alghero81 said: @Kyriakin on that I can help you as I have an Excel with every single AoS miniature with stats and other. The top point per pound (dollar should be similar ratio) unit in AoS is the Giant Rats. You need 2 boxes of 25£ each to make a 10-rat unit valid 60 points (0.83 ratio). Arguably the box comes with other stuff, but if you only want Giant Rats, that's your price. At the same place and more fundamental you have Skryre Acolytes, with their new price of 10£ per model, you need 5 blisters for 60 points, making it the most expensive essential battleline (0.83 ratio). The most expensive pure battleline would be Zombies for Legions of Nagash, 60 points for 22.5£ at a 0.38 ratio. The most expensive ForgeWorld per point is the Dreadquake Mortar of Legion of Azgorh, with 0.51 ratio. And finally the most expensive Leader is the Bloodthirster with 85£ for 270 points (0.31 ratio). Anyone interested in useless stats feel free to ping me privately 😂 Ah I forgot, you were not far with the Spite-Revenants being quite high, they are 4th battleline per ratio (0.42), the 3rd being the Saurus Guard at 0.44. Any chance to get my hands on that file? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alghero81 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 46 minutes ago, Panzer said: Any chance to get my hands on that file? PM me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandlemad Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 So this has cropped up, looks like a prospective AoS model of one of John Blanche's famous pieces. Cool idea and not a bad model, though it's a shame they couldn't translate the wonderful dandelion-clock hair to a miniature. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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