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3 hours ago, CommodoreCass said:

This was a silly move. Why would someone buy it without Battletome on his way or available?
A Slave to Darkness release would be so simple, I still dont understand GW on this point. They just have to add to existing entries :

-All Warcry Warbands and Monster 

-All character from Silver Tower

-Warqueen

-All Underworlds Warbands 

-Cool rules

 

The Order Silver Tower ones are mostly dumped already.

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Let us take a moment to appreciate we have reached page 1337...

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Now that feels better, back to rumours.

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10 hours ago, Kurrilino said:

Definitely.

 

Why would someone buy it? 

I was going to buy one this month...... then freaking Bonereapers happened and scuppered all those plans

 

To me its a future investment as I don't see GW replacing most of those plastic kits included within it and I've already got a Slaanesh force and some Khorne as well so a Slaves army would let me merge bits of the two and come in support. Plus I've bought into the Warbands which also add into Slaves. 

 

The annoying thing is that now with Bonereapers chances are that Slaves box will go off sale come near Christmas (GW did that last year, pulling all the old "cities" blocks from Order for sale). 

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22 hours ago, Forrix said:

Mawtribes for Thanksgiving would be great!

But hey, Britain doesn’t have thanksgiving, isn’t it?

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31 minutes ago, Whitefang said:

But hey, Britain doesn’t have thanksgiving, isn’t it?

Nope, but the GW US market is big enough that they could consider it - plus all those hollywood films means most places are "aware" of thanksgiving existing. 

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slabes of darkness kinda intresting tome as most of its contents are kinda either released via warcry or being released cities of sigmar( which slaves of sigmar being chaos equvalent)  but I kinda see thr problem which is strong fluff to merge them.

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4 hours ago, khadgar567 said:

slabes of darkness kinda intresting tome as most of its contents are kinda either released via warcry or being released cities of sigmar( which slaves of sigmar being chaos equvalent)  but I kinda see thr problem which is strong fluff to merge them.

I think the fluff is the least problem of Slaves to Darkness.

Personally i still thing that GW struggles with their rules because one wrong move and you overpower a whole faction like Nurgle or Khorne. But if they remove marks and gods for StD, well then you don't need StD at all.

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I think leave them to get on with it, otherwise you get the cities of sigmar book but for chaos.

I'm probably the only one who doesn't like the book as it reads to me like a kneejerk release to silence a big noise that wouldnt  go away.

i don't want that for slaves, and yes, i totally agree that its a real balancing act with regards to how you handle them, its easy to speculate at this stage and it would be seriously off the mark, but if cities are anything to go by anything that was of an old design like chaos warriors and marauders could be phased out as the old dwarf models were.

anything which got a full makover during the 8th edition was an AoS aesthetic hidden in plain sight.

but im not trying to be negative here. Its pretty obvious that gw are working hard to really define the nature of what a chaos worshipper is in the mortal realms and so I really want them to get it right.  If thats going to take another year or more then so be it, rather than cave to the give us a book clamouring.

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2 hours ago, Kurrilino said:

I think the fluff is the least problem of Slaves to Darkness.

Personally i still thing that GW struggles with their rules because one wrong move and you overpower a whole faction like Nurgle or Khorne. But if they remove marks and gods for StD, well then you don't need StD at all.

 

2 minutes ago, Kaleb Daark said:

I think leave them to get on with it, otherwise you get the cities of sigmar book but for chaos.

I'm probably the only one who doesn't like the book as it reads to me like a knee ******  release to silence a big noise that wouldnt  go away.

i don't want that for slaves, and yes, i totally agree that its a real balancing act with regards to how you handle them, its easy to speculate at this stage and it would be seriously off the mark, but if cities are anything to go by anything that was of an old design like chaos warriors and marauders could be phased out as the old dwarf models were.

anything which got a full makover during the 8th edition was an AoS aesthetic hidden in plain sight.

but im not trying to be negative here. Its pretty obvious that gw are working hard to really define the nature of what a chaos worshipper is in the mortal realms and so I really want them to get it right.  If thats going to take another year or more then so be it, rather than cave to the give us a book clamouring.

I kinda agree both of you as games workshop kinda needs cities of sigmar to be released so soup tribe based tome for slaves can be success both sides want. plus we are all kinda looking on what malerion cooking on ulgu which means we need more fluff teased before the dark and angelic elves can be safely released 

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I think Marks is going and Cultists keyword will be in. The big change might be that all cultists have to be from the same cult whilst with Marks you could mix and match. However its impossible to tel at this stage. I do think the move from marks to cults will happen just because it means that GW no loner has to print the marks rules on every single warscroll. 

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Saw a few pages ago that someone mentioned - endless spells for Ossiarch Bonereapers “if they are happening”.

 

i can 100 percent confirm that ossiarchs are getting endless spells, ogors are getting a mawpot and we will see a “astrolithic skyshrine” scnery set before Xmas. 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Morglum StormBasha said:

i can 100 percent confirm that ossiarchs are getting endless spells, ogors are getting a mawpot and we will see a “astrolithic skyshrine” scnery set before Xmas.

We've seen the order form which has rumoured the spells and mawpot - the Astrolithic Skyshrine though that is new!

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53 minutes ago, Overread said:

I think Marks is going and Cultists keyword will be in. The big change might be that all cultists have to be from the same cult whilst with Marks you could mix and match. However its impossible to tel at this stage. I do think the move from marks to cults will happen just because it means that GW no loner has to print the marks rules on every single warscroll. 

At this point they don't even have to bother.

Chaos warriors were always about tribes joining different gods and fight for their attention. If they take this away they might as well give them the wood elves treatment. Give them goat legs, call them chaonothi and sell them for a weird niche game. I don't care anyways

 

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Thanks @PaniuBraniu - the Zone Mortalis will be very interesting to a lot of people!

 

@Kurrilino don't get to irate before the book is even out (heck its not even on the rumour watchlist yet - save for the recycling wishlists and the expectation of it coming) 

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Astrolithic Skyshrine? Astroliths are Seraphon standards. Sounds like a new Seraphon book might be on its way.  

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10 hours ago, Morglum StormBasha said:

Saw a few pages ago that someone mentioned - endless spells for Ossiarch Bonereapers “if they are happening”.

 

i can 100 percent confirm that ossiarchs are getting endless spells, ogors are getting a mawpot and we will see a “astrolithic skyshrine” scnery set before Xmas. 

 

 

What's this prediction based off of? What's an Astrolithic Skyshrine? 🤔

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1 hour ago, Barbossal said:

What's this prediction based off of? What's an Astrolithic Skyshrine? 🤔

The Skyshrine is news to me, at least the name, however a friend send me this about a week ago so it seems to be true:

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7 hours ago, Greyshadow said:

Astrolithic Skyshrine? Astroliths are Seraphon standards. Sounds like a new Seraphon book might be on its way.  

And from the Malign Portents background they're basically in space... That said, the fact that it qualifies the listing as "DOMINION OF SIGMAR ASTROLITHIC SKYSHRINE" rather than "SERAPHON TERRAIN"or similar makes me think it's a generic terrain release like the stuff that was released with Forbidden Power.

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I'm a bit suspicious of this rumour. Wargames Factory ltd is a small American company that manufactures 28mm models. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wargames_Factory

Which does not seem to have any link to GW.  A little googling suggests that they do seem to have factories in China, but do we know that they are actually the company GW outsources their Chinese production to? I'd always understood it as a Chinese factory, rahter than the factories of another Wargames company, although I have no actual information on that. It seems slightly odd that they would work with one of their smaller US competitors when outsourcing their production.

There's also the fact that GW is listed as "Games Workshop USA" after all, their central offices are in the UK, not the US. Shouldn't such a communique thus come from head office, and then the units be shipped out to the US? Its hard to get a sense of whehter the numbers seem reasonable for US side sales, but a lot about it just seems a little bit off to me?

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The rumour comes from the Panjiva website (business intelligence company). Unless there is another GW which manufactures  Ossiarch and Sigmarite stuff in China and distributes it in the US, it is legit.

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15 minutes ago, EccentricCircle said:

It seems slightly odd that they would work with one of their smaller US competitors when outsourcing their production.

To be fair, Wargames Factory is hardly a competitor with GW. Their models are of substantially lower quality than GW and they mostly do historicals. Also, as far as I know, they were absorbed by Warlord a while ago. Maybe the still have a casting operation in China and GW outsources there?

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It might well be that the factory is in China but is owned/managed/GW works through a second company. Sometimes behind the scenes it can be interesting to note how many products and companies actually work together or use the same manufacturing site; or share resources and such. It's often not all that heavily advertised nor marketed, it just happens in the deep background of things. 

Sometimes its done purely for tax and paperwork or importing purposes and is of benefit to both companies to pool resources to lower costs and such. Even if they are otherwise competing in similar markets or the very same market. 

 

From what I've heard from some Kickstarter companies, factories in China can be a bit of a minefield in terms of production and quality control*. So it would make sense that if one is found that does produce high volume at a high level of quality then it likely would get picked up and used by multiple companies and if one company got there first they could be the go-to point for others to network through with that factory. 

 

 

* I've also hear that the work culture of some  factories in China is such that if errors are detected, lower level employees are often discouraged from reporting them to senior management. Which can result in whole batches failing production standards, but not being found out until after its shipped. 

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In other news its Pre-order preview day! 

*crosses fingers*

Ossiarch Bonerepeaers 

Ossiarch Bonerepeaers 

Ossiarch Bonerepeaers 

Ossiarch Bonerepeaers 

 

There's not a chance of it this week, but I can still madly hope right?! 

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