Neffelo Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, Overread said: To be fair most armies had a siege engine/war engines until the great culling of the launch of AoS. Elves lost all their bolt throwers - several other catapults and weapons also got generally lost and removed from the game. Heck GW even one time did a whole castle siege expansion for Old World which had some wall segments and generic siege weapons (ladder, tower, ram). Personally as cool as those things look I always felt the scale is wrong for them in AoS/Old World. Neat and fun to play don't get me wrong, but the visual experience just isn't there unless you're running an "apoc" scale game. Now kick things down a few scales to Warmaster and that would do epic sieges where you could put a castle on the table and have rank and file and huge siege batteries laying waste whilst dragons swoop overhead and mighty lords do battle. I wonder what the points cost is going to be for them. Are they going to be similar to Celestars, so that we can have four blasting the battlefield, or more expense so that we only get 1 or 2 on the table at a time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GutrotSpume Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Neffelo said: I wonder what the points cost is going to be for them. Are they going to be similar to Celestars, so that we can have four blasting the battlefield, or more expense so that we only get 1 or 2 on the table at a time. They look massive, wouldn’t be surprised if they are 250-300pts range with a brutal shooting attack, loads of wounds and a surprisingly punchy combat profile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neffelo Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, GutrotSpume said: They look massive, wouldn’t be surprised if they are 250-300pts range with a brutal shooting attack, loads of wounds and a surprisingly punchy combat profile. This is what I would suspect as well. I just hope they can get the shooting points right, which seems like it has been a challenge for GW in AOS so far! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 It's really hard to guess points from war weapons - skaven are on a large base and both their cannon and catapult are under 200 points. It really depends, the catapult could be supreme with a huge point cost or it could be cheaper and just a big model we can take several of (which honestly I'd prefer)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankman Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 51 minutes ago, Eldarain said: There was the rumor they'd repurpose the old watchtower for Cities and the Orruks would have some kind of tear down the enemy terrain rule. The tower might work for one or two of the cities but I doubt it will be all of them. Living City will get the Awakened Wyldwoods probably. Each city will use a different terrain piece that already exists is my guess 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aelfric Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 18 minutes ago, Tankman said: The tower might work for one or two of the cities but I doubt it will be all of them. Living City will get the Awakened Wyldwoods probably. Each city will use a different terrain piece that already exists is my guess I'm hoping Living City can use Wyldwoods - my army will be Wanderers-centric until I know what I can add and paint them up. Also, it would mean I can invest in some Sylvaneth as the cost of Wyldwoods has been putting me off. If I can use them with two armies, then the cost becomes more justifiable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramer Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 40 minutes ago, Tankman said: The tower might work for one or two of the cities but I doubt it will be all of them. Living City will get the Awakened Wyldwoods probably. Each city will use a different terrain piece that already exists is my guess That would be a very cool idea. What are the firestorm cities so far? Anvilgard: It's coastal, takes after it's founders the Anvils of Heldenhammer. Lots of Mounstrous Mega Fauna. Can't really think of a fit. Hammerhal: Wall or Tower piece Tempest's Eye: 'The mountaintop city's Planar observatories can see past even the most complex illusions...' Maybe bring back that awesome observatory 😍. Hallowheart: City infused with magical powers.... I have no idea what could be used for that one. Plenty of magical terrain pieces but nothing really fitting 'radiant auro of Aqshyan magic that eminates form ****** crystal caverns. The Living City: Wyldwoods. Fits, done, tie a bow around it. Greywater Finest engineers and gunsmiths of the realms. Is there a 'gun trench/emplacement' from 40K or something that could be repurposed? The Phoenicium: Maybe the Forbidden power terrain piece. But with slightly different rules as they do know more of how to get them to work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azmodan Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 2 hours ago, kuroyume said: No offense, but that speaks more about the skill level of players around you than about the game itself. I force the entire community in my area to learn about screening by playing a big f-you Gavriel Bomb list for months. After a few times getting their key units mowed down by a 15-man unit of Evocators, everyone got really good at screening (sadly) Tbh mass evocators are not that scary for me as a hedonites Player :p. Community around is quite competetive. Iam talking about manovering around an almost immortal death ball for an entire game, not about tactical screening, blocking and counter charge. And for me this two are completly two diffrent things. Ecocators are tought but you can kill them. And they become weaker after you kill few of them. And if You are using damage 2 wepon its easier to kill 15 unbuffed evocators then Gotrek. As Gotrek plot armour and abilities gives him 48 effective wounds vs Damage 2... And 72 wounds vs Damage 3 Not taking The base size for calculation when its much easier to surround them. And the fact that evocators loose attack power after you start wounding them and Gotrek does not. If You Play badly and run forward i will be able to screen and kill evocators. But vs Gotrek I will have to split my force and dance for 5 rounds and this is much much harder. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 And NewZealand GW site is updated! The Warcry card for the Chimera is on show on its new page. There's no card pack sadly for the rest, but there is the book up on show. Gotrek side there's the new audio book, new novel and a really good looking special edition of the first audiobook: Realmslayer The Complete Script "This book contains the complete four-part script of Realmslayer, the audio drama recounting the much anticipated return of Gotrek Gurnisson and voiced by the world-famous Brian Blessed. It also includes a brand-new introduction by David Guymer, behind-the-scenes photographs, thirty-two pages of art, and a never-before-seen annotated script with insights from its author, editor and audio producer." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldarain Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Really tempted to grab Gotrek and both books but I feel like missing out on Brian's performance might be a mistake... Gotrek and reactivating the Audible account it is. I really hope they put the Cities book up next week. Seems so perfect with Gotrek being able to be used with all the different armies in it. (Plus like 70% of his adventures are getting drawn into defending a city/castle he's passing through) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zilberfrid Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 9 hours ago, willange said: Bottom of the Gordrakk article says "Orruk Warclans later this year"... Like how much later? It could mean nothing, but it makes me sad. Well, "later this year" was within two weeks for the culling. So, it could be ratger soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zilberfrid Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Eldarain said: Really tempted to grab Gotrek and both books but I feel like missing out on Brian's performance might be a mistake... Gotrek and reactivating the Audible account it is. I really hope they put the Cities book up next week. Seems so perfect with Gotrek being able to be used with all the different armies in it. (Plus like 70% of his adventures are getting drawn into defending a city/castle he's passing through) Listening Gotrek while painting him sounds good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldarain Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, zilberfrid said: Listening Gotrek while painting him sounds good. It's a great sculpt. I'm really excited to get started. Edited September 7, 2019 by Eldarain Page flipped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutton Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Pre-orders are up on the New Zealand site, so you can check out the new Warcry stuff. Looking at the Chimera card we get our first glimpse of Monsters, who are pretty BEASTLY (hyuk hyuk)---easily able to splatter lesser warband members with a single crit. They also have unique abilities. Interestingly, much like AoS they also appear to have damage charts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitefang Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Rumors about Ossiarch hero: arkhan katacross boneshaper wizard spiritshaper wizard tax collector rider character infantry mortek guard necropolis stalker stlker with sword and shield Cavalry rider monster Bone Frankenstein artillery Catapult terrian tithe nexus 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AthlorianStoners Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 54 minutes ago, Whitefang said: Rumors about Ossiarch hero: arkhan katacross boneshaper wizard spiritshaper wizard tax collector rider character infantry mortek guard necropolis stalker stlker with sword and shield Cavalry rider monster Bone Frankenstein artillery Catapult terrian tithe nexus Where’s this from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 So we know what tomorrow's community previews will be haha. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) Looks like Arkhan is part of the release. Did not see that coming. edit Just so I don't look like a huge weirdo, there used to be posts between my two posts before the cruel thought police aka mods deleted the potato pics haha. Edited September 7, 2019 by Austin deleted posts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Taylor Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 +++ Mod Hat On +++ Can we please not post leaked pictures. I’m sure we will see something on the community site soon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandzak-Miniatures Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) Comments about the leaked images aren’t allowed now even without quoted picture? Im hoping the leaks don’t force Cities to be delayed any further.. Edited September 7, 2019 by Mandzak-Miniatures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AthlorianStoners Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 15 minutes ago, Austin said: Looks like Arkhan is part of the release. Did not see that coming. edit Just so I don't look like a huge weirdo, there used to be posts between my two posts before the cruel thought police aka mods deleted the potato pics haha. Was there an image of Arkhan ? I’d love for him to be included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldarain Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mandzak-Miniatures said: Comments about the leaked images aren’t allowed now even without quoted picture? Im hoping the leaks don’t force Cities to be delayed any further.. Very much this. I'm sure we'll get additional info and proper pictures because of this leak but still hopeful that this is the week Cities and Orruks go up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, AthlorianStoners said: Was there an image of Arkhan ? I’d love for him to be included. No I didn't see an image except an extremely blurry one on the back of the book itself, which was either Arkhan or a mounted hero. No way to tell which it was. edit But, I should add the leaks had a warscroll for him, so he IS included. Edited September 7, 2019 by Austin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still-young Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 They kept more back from the initial reveal than I thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Austin Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, Still-young said: They kept more back from the initial reveal than I thought. Yeah it is a Gloomspite level release for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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