The Rumour Thread

[Skreech Verminking]

1 hour ago, adreal said:

Something easy for terrain for cities of sigmar would be a fantasy aegis defence line

Cites units manning th ed wall are immune to battleshock

You know what would be cool, a chariot that carries a statue, representing Sigmar, and while doing so has no real stats nor a wound count but gives some minor buffs to friendly units, and can move

[adreal]

1 minute ago, Skreech Verminking said:

You know what would be cool, a chariot that carries a statue, representing Sigmar, and while doing so has no real stats nor a wound count but gives some minor buffs to friendly units, and can move

That would be really cool, and easy to swap for more dwarven/elven gods as needed

[Chikout]

I am surprised to see the next three warbands out so soon. This must be the most aggressive release gw has ever had for a new product. Killteam had a lot of stuff early on but aside from the scenery it was all repacks of existing minis. 

To have 15 warbands playable within a week of launch as well as three different terrain sets is pretty impressive.

It does make for some pretty difficult purchasing decisions. The new board is gorgeous and it looks like the box will be a good way of getting some of that dominion of sigmar scenery at a pretty good price. I have a feeling that it will sell out pretty quickly , so I might buy it instead of the main box. 

As for the future, I think we will see at least one battletome on preorder on August 10th followed by a bunch of marine stuff for 40k.

September will be Ogors and maybe sisters. 

October will see Beastgrave and the new specialist game.

The new death will go on preorder around Halloween but not actually release until November.

I think we will see a Tzeentch book in December alongside the last two Warcry warbands.

I really don’t expect to see slaves to Darkness until next year. 

This is obviously all guesswork but It seems pretty plausible. 

I think gw has one more 40k surprise this year. I have a feeling it will be exodites but that might be wishful thinking.

It’s looking pretty far ahead but next year could be very exciting:

KO, Seraphon, light Aelves, slaves to Darkness, Wanderers?!!? and I’m calling it now... a brand new destruction army! 

 

 

[HammerOfSigmar]

10 minutes ago, Chikout said:

I am surprised to see the next three warbands out so soon. This must be the most aggressive release gw has ever had for a new product. Killteam had a lot of stuff early on but aside from the scenery it was all repacks of existing minis. 

To have 15 warbands playable within a week of launch as well as three different terrain sets is pretty impressive.

It does make for some pretty difficult purchasing decisions. The new board is gorgeous and it looks like the box will be a good way of getting some of that dominion of sigmar scenery at a pretty good price. I have a feeling that it will sell out pretty quickly , so I might buy it instead of the main box. 

As for the future, I think we will see at least one battletome on preorder on August 10th followed by a bunch of marine stuff for 40k.

September will be Ogors and maybe sisters. 

October will see Beastgrave and the new specialist game.

The new death will go on preorder around Halloween but not actually release until November.

I think we will see a Tzeentch book in December alongside the last two Warcry warbands.

I really don’t expect to see slaves to Darkness until next year. 

This is obviously all guesswork but It seems pretty plausible. 

I think gw has one more 40k surprise this year. I have a feeling it will be exodites but that might be wishful thinking.

It’s looking pretty far ahead but next year could be very exciting:

KO, Seraphon, light Aelves, slaves to Darkness, Wanderers?!!? and I’m calling it now... a brand new destruction army! 

 

 

Why tzeetch might get an update earlier than STD? Any sources or just personal guess? From all I know, STD has a much higher chance to get updated before tzeetch.

 

[madmac]

9 minutes ago, HammerOfSigmar said:

Why tzeetch might get an update earlier than STD? Any sources or just personal guess? From all I know, STD has a much higher chance to get updated before tzeetch.

 

Just in terms of fitting into the release schedule, personally speaking. We've got likely a brand new army for death,  at least 3 other battle tomes (Orruks, Free Cities, Ogors) and at least one new vs box, Beastgrave and probably the first set of new warbands for it, the last two Warcry Warbands,, Sisters of Battle and probably at least one more 40k army release (Primaris Marines have been teased in the last month or so). Also the usual December Battleboxes and stuff.

That's a looot of stuff to fit into the next four months. Unless the STD release is just a battletome, endless spells ect, I don't see them fitting it in this year. I could very well be wrong, though.  Maybe they'll be the Christmas/New Years army.

[TheNotebookGM]

Do you all think StD will get rebranded into Darkoath entirely? I find it hard to believe that GW keeps the word "Slaves" as a moniker for one of their armies.

[Skreech Verminking]

12 minutes ago, TheNotebookGM said:

Do you all think StD will get rebranded into Darkoath entirely? I find it hard to believe that GW keeps the word "Slaves" as a moniker for one of their armies.

Don’t know.

could be that they’ll Chang wit too something like worshippers of chaos or Hosts of chaos.

[Still-young]

3 hours ago, HammerOfSigmar said:

Why tzeetch might get an update earlier than STD? Any sources or just personal guess? From all I know, STD has a much higher chance to get updated before tzeetch.

 

Tzeentch is just a case of a battletome, endless spells and terrain. Quicker than a release with lots of new kits, easier to fit in the schedule etc. 

[Dirtnaps]

6 hours ago, Kurrilino said:

You can fill libraries with Stormcast books alone.

Oh please, there's only been 4 books that's hardly a library and it isn't like chaos hasn't had their share either with 3 Khorne books. Enough of this ridiculousness.

5 hours ago, HammerOfSigmar said:

Why tzeetch might get an update earlier than STD

Tzeentch already has a book that just needs to be brought up to the 2.0 standard with spells, terrain and a tome with some probably minor updates whereas there's more work needed for StD especially if they are getting new sculpts/models (I don't know if they are but I'd say there is a good chance).

[alghero81]

Yeah I agree, Tzeentch is a quick win, of STD gets anything this year will be a small release, GW can prove me wrong but I don’t think there’s space for a Slaanesh type of release for another faction this year

[Ghark]

Just a quick question guys.

Isn't there an event this week when we could see a GW seminar? I'm pretty sure there is one (where we'll see more details for the two new BT IMHO) but I can't find which one is it 😁

[EccentricCircle]

5 minutes ago, Ghark said:

Just a quick question guys.

Isn't there an event this week when we could see a GW seminar? I'm pretty sure there is one (where we'll see more details for the two new BT IMHO) but I can't find which one is it 😁

GenCon is at the start of August? Not heard anything about GW there, but its the big one, so I'm sure they'd want some presence there.

[HollowHills]

The problem with StD that makes it unlikely they will just get a new book is that GW have to balance their units for four other factions. If they make positive changes to chaos warriors, knights etc then these models could accidentally unbalance khorne, Tzeentch and so on. 

At the same time they don't want to take marks of chaos away when players have been able to build armies for the other chaos gods including StD models. 

As such I do think that when we see a chaos unaligned book it will have some new models. That does mean it could be a long way off though. 

I expect tzeentch as the chaos tome. 

[Chikout]

1 hour ago, Ghark said:

Just a quick question guys.

Isn't there an event this week when we could see a GW seminar? I'm pretty sure there is one (where we'll see more details for the two new BT IMHO) but I can't find which one is it 😁

Gw is doing a preview event on August 3rd but it is for 40k only. Gw will be at gencon but they haven't said anything specific about announcements. There is a possibility we will hear more about beastgrave or warcry but probably not anything for mainline AOS. The next big preview event will be at Nova at the end of August.

[Ghark]

1 minute ago, Chikout said:

Gw is doing a preview event on August 3rd but it is for 40k only. Gw will be at gencon but they haven't said anything specific about announcements. There is a possibility we will hear more about beastgrave or warcry but probably not anything for mainline AOS. The next big preview event will be at Nova at the end of August. 

Thanks for your answer mate

I think we'll see more pictures for the space marines which appeared blurred in the primaris lieutenant video a few weeks ago.

[Sete]

12 hours ago, skeen77 said:

I'm tired of the beat of this drum. StD are in a terrible spot and we all know it. This thread isn't for complaining about that.

"My faction is ok,  and I don't care about yours" opinion. Cool thanks for sharing.

 

Bummer I thought we would have some AoS august 3rd. The waiting game continues.

Edited July 29, 2019 by Sete

[HollowHills]

10 minutes ago, Sete said:

"My faction is ok,  and I don't care about yours" opinion. Cool thanks for sharing.

 

Bummer I thought we would have some AoS august 3rd. The waiting game continues.

I know it's frustrating but there is no way they will leave std behind. In some ways the longer is goes on the better chances you have of a bigger chaos unaligned release. 

Khorne, Tzeentch, Nurgle and now Slaanesh all got fairly meaty releases with new kits, Skaven got a tome, new hero and spells. When it comes to the next chaos faction to get a large scale release it almost certainly has to be StD. 

(as I said earlier I do expect a small release for tzeentch first). 

 

[Overread]

38 minutes ago, Sete said:

"My faction is ok,  and I don't care about yours" opinion. Cool thanks for sharing.

I don't think its that at all; its more that at this point in time its clear that

1) Slaves to Darkness are not being removed from the game

2) GW is adding more Battletomes at a quick pace so its more a matter of When rather than If 

Furthermore general ranting online won't resolve anything, so all it does is create a negative atmosphere. Asides Slaves to Darkness are not that bad off compared to some; they still have a pretty full and varied roster of models; they have some abilities and gear in both the 2018 and 2019 Generals Handbooks and they just got 3 warbands of new models (with 3 more coming soon) which; whilst they are not game-changing; they are decent blocks of warriors priced at a regular price (takes around 3 boxes to make a full unit) with some really neat sculpts and unique appearances. 

 

Slaves are not the worst off by a long margin, its just somewhat surprising that they weren't paired with Warcry. However you can't argue against the fact that Destruction has only 1 functional 2.0 battletome at present and that the human, dwarf and aelf mess in Order was a huge point of confusion and detracting interest for new potential gamers and a big subset of former/current gamers in the game. Resolving both with two battletomes is a powerful move. Once they are both out Destruction will have nearly been finished in terms of Battletomes and Order will have had a huge clear up of factions.

 

Seriously we'll be left just needing:

Ogors battletome for Destruction (its fairly clear GW will merge beastclaw and gutbusters) - which is likely coming soon since they just previewed a new leader model for the faction (if its like skaven and flesheaters than the duel battle box might well come with a new battletome at launch).

Slaves to Darkness

Tzeentch

Seraphon

Kharadron Overlords

Basically in total only 7 battletomes. GW could easily get 5 or 6 of them into the remaining half of the year, more if they double up!

 

Note that at present only Gutbusters and Slaves to Darkness have never had a battletome through the whole history of AoS. To me this suggests that Slaves must come this year; that at least means GW hits Christmas with every army holding at battletome at some point in its AoS history. It's then just a case of updating old Tomes to new editions for 2.0

Edited July 29, 2019 by Overread

[Sete]

Not talking about the lack of BT or not, just his attitude. Rilling up people that are already frustrated and disappointed, is not a great move. The Bird people have a name for it.

[Still-young]

32 minutes ago, Sete said:

Not talking about the lack of BT or not, just his attitude. Rilling up people that are already frustrated and disappointed, is not a great move. The Bird people have a name for it.

Their attitude was no worse than the original complaints were. 

[HammerOfSigmar]

For balance problem, I don't think it will be a big issues. The STD battletome can just empower the STD units in great scale and this won't affect how those units perform in the Chaos god army. For example, FEC dragon is very deadly in FEC army(strike first, attack twice without interruption, but anyone really try using it in LON list? 

[alghero81]

@Overread that seems a quite ambitious plan to close that many battletomes this year!! They said they would complete the roster by end of 2020, so it’s possible they can actually obtain this before mid 2020 but by the end of 2019 seems just too crammed... some battletomes seem a good occasion to add new miniatures so need more time in the busy schedule.

I personally don’t think we will see more than 2 of the tomes you mentioned this year. Maybe January will bring one or two more but seems more realistic they will be delivered within the next 12 months.

The question is: what will come after? Will we receive updates for existing 2.0 factions or only new armies or a mix?

[swarmofseals]

6 hours ago, HollowHills said:

The problem with StD that makes it unlikely they will just get a new book is that GW have to balance their units for four other factions. If they make positive changes to chaos warriors, knights etc then these models could accidentally unbalance khorne, Tzeentch and so on. 

At the same time they don't want to take marks of chaos away when players have been able to build armies for the other chaos gods including StD models. 

As such I do think that when we see a chaos unaligned book it will have some new models. That does mean it could be a long way off though. 

I expect tzeentch as the chaos tome. 

The simplest solution would be to take the route that Beasts of Chaos took, with expensive battalions enabling the marks for god-specific factions. This ensures that they can push the warscrolls a bit more for the actual StD army while keeping them both available and balanced for god-specific factions.

[HammerOfSigmar]

6 minutes ago, alghero81 said:

@Overread that seems a quite ambitious plan to close that many battletomes this year!! They said they would complete the roster by end of 2020, so it’s possible they can actually obtain this before mid 2020 but by the end of 2019 seems just too crammed... some battletomes seem a good occasion to add new miniatures so need more time in the busy schedule.

I personally don’t think we will see more than 2 of the tomes you mentioned this year. Maybe January will bring one or two more but seems more realistic they will be delivered within the next 12 months.

The question is: what will come after? Will we receive updates for existing 2.0 factions or only new armies or a mix?

It really depends, strictly speaking, Nurgle, DOK, idk, LON, SCE and nighthaunt are not fully 2.0 armys by now but none of them are desperate for an update like STD. If we ignore those, then the armies needed to be updated but has not been anounced yet are very few left: STD,  seraphon, KO and TZ.  If so, everything should be done before 2020 April then.

Edited July 29, 2019 by HammerOfSigmar

[Aginor]

IIRC GW released 8 or 9 Battletomes in 2016, that was the maximum so far.

This year there are 9 if I am not mistaken (counting Orruks, CoS and Sylvaneth already), I admit I'd be kinda surprised if there were more than two additional ones.

It would be a pleasant surprise though, especially if something scaly is involved.