The Rumour Thread

[KingBrodd]

1 hour ago, Nezzhil said:

Da Bad Moon only speaks with the real rulerz... 😔

 

If the next week they announce Pariah and another Specialist Game release content... I think all about AoS was delayed after the 40k hype train will vanishes. 🙄

I'm worried about this as well. Because I can see why they wouldnt want to delay their biggest release of the year anymore than they already have or perhaps its release luckily hasn't been delayed and is on track. And its unfortunate as 40K is still the cash cow so it would make sense to move other systems around it, but I'd hate for their other big ticket system to get pushed around to fit in the specialist games. 

They could very easily release the last PA and the Lumineth Battlebox the same week very easily. Or at least PA and all the Specialist games releases at once. A PA release alongside a Snotling Blood Bowl team, Treeman model and Necromunda Teams wouldnt be too much at once. Following week drop the Lumineth Battlebox and Warcry and Beastgrave Warbands.

[Popisdead]

On 5/31/2020 at 6:58 AM, 123lac said:

I really hope they never do an AoS equivalent of Psychic Awakening. It's absurd how many campaign books there are for 40k now and from what I've seen the only good ones were the two for Vigilus. 

I mean how many books do people have to take with them to play 40k now? Completely insane to have army rules coming from so many different books, all of which cost money. Should just be core rules + army book, nothing else. 

Keep in mind, you just need to buy the book for your codex.  And a lot of people were happy to get rules that made their older units (looking at my Aspect craftworld army that is fully painted) and felt it gave it a boost.  I would never be negative towards new content for army support.  This is a luxury hobby complaint .

On 5/31/2020 at 6:51 PM, ReyD1 said:

- Daughters of Khaine / Slannesh new battletomes ? 

Is the Slaanesh battletome even one year old?  Why would that be redone it is still solid.

On 6/2/2020 at 3:47 AM, Oak7603 said:

I'm sure that you all mean to mention Beasts of Chaos too when you talk about Armies needing updates... 🤣🤣😉

Boy,.. that rug got pulled out from under our feet pretty fast.  It felt like it started so good.  

On 6/2/2020 at 12:44 PM, amysrevenge said:

 un-squat Gitmob or Greenskins or Bretonnia.

They will never un-squat Gitmob or Greenskinz and they can't copyright french knights from the medieval period.

On 6/3/2020 at 4:35 AM, GeneralZero said:

Source who confirmed 40k for late july is saying Lumineth is iminent.

You mean,.. the calendar?  "oh look, a major game was released in July, just like it has been for as long as anyone cares to remember"

On 6/6/2020 at 9:26 AM, Jator said:

 So, I don't follow 40k news, but some info has beed flodding into my gaming whatsapp groups. Info that will probably be relevant for AoS future.
  Seems like there is going to be a point increase for all units. This seems like a smart move if they want to keep atracting people to the hobby in the dire economic future that awaits us. Not sure how 40k scales with AoS in this regard, but anyway I think we can expect the fantasy game to follow the same route as soon as they can implement it.

 There is also table size reductions and apparently some focus in shorter games, which is where modern games are headed anyway, and where they were stepping into with Meeting Engagements.

  Again, I think all of this gives a hint on AoS future.

 Thoughts?

It was a talk on the Honest Wargamer and if you look at it divested from your armies it makes sense and I see it happening.

Granted I thought it was going to happen in AoS at the beginning.  Move away from hordes, then they turned around and found a way to sell people on hordes.  

I heard all the tournaments have stated 5x4 is the new standard?  Meaning that's the game size the meta, podcasts, forum posts will settle on.  At the local GW store, every game is a 6x4, plus stuff on the floor under and a dead pile and books on the games table next to them.  If they could have 3 tables vs 2 they will most assuredly move that way.  More games played means more models sold.

A really valid point is if you have 200 models and play on a 6x4, the game is slow, takes up room, requires a lot to get to that level.  If you have a game that can be played on a smaller table with less terrain and models that can be played in a wider variety of stores.  Also Crusade sounds like a pretty good way to get people into new armies and play them.  They might be working on Path to Glory to be balanced (the only real issue I had with that game as it was fun) so they could sell a Getting Started to a kid and he can roll up a warband and expand his or her army.

People think they are looking at GW like a static company.  While some IP is constantly rehashed  we are currently watching Space Marines being squatted for Primaris.  Don't think the GW we are seeing now and the games now are the way it will be in 5-10 years.  The business world is in a "agile" lifecycle and GW did a fail-fast pretty hard on AoS 5 or 6 years ago.  and now look at it.  And think about it in 5 more years.  If you have small games played in the back of games cafes or comic shops that's good market penetration, expansion and sales.  I wouldn't be surprised for GW to be working on some method of iPad Point-of-Sales "unit" to distribute out to say a comic shop so kids could just order models to that store, they get a cut but the purchasing and shipping is done by GW rather than the shop's owners.  

[EccentricCircle]

2 hours ago, Popisdead said:

 I wouldn't be surprised for GW to be working on some method of iPad Point-of-Sales "unit" to distribute out to say a comic shop so kids could just order models to that store, they get a cut but the purchasing and shipping is done by GW rather than the shop's owners.  

I can't really see that happening, for one simple reason. At least in the UK, Games Workshop already has a larger high street presence than pretty much all other "geek interest" shops combined.

Edited June 8, 2020 by EccentricCircle

[Popisdead]

3 hours ago, EccentricCircle said:

I can't really see that happening, for one simple reason. At least in the UK, Games Workshop already has a larger high street presence than pretty much all other "geek interest" shops combined.

I'm not sure what high street means and I understand the UK GW presence is fairly unique.  

Where I live (North America ) I know GW has historically and currently pushed for additional stores buying into the product line even with a local GW.   There have been times stores across the street from each other carried GW.  

[EccentricCircle]

7 minutes ago, Popisdead said:

I'm not sure what high street means and I understand the UK GW presence is fairly unique.  

Where I live (North America ) I know GW has historically and currently pushed for additional stores buying into the product line even with a local GW.   There have been times stores across the street from each other carried GW.  

Apologies. A high street is the central street of a British town, where the major shops are located. Its often pedestrianised, and is basically the spot where all the prime brands can be found. Most high streets have more or less the same universal shops, with a few unique ones. GW is often found on or near the high street, and has a presence in a great many such towns. You will very rarely find a comic shop on the high street, most are independent, rather than being part of the big chains. Independent board games shops can sometimes get a prime spot, but again tend to be independent, so can't get as good locations. The few chains, like Forbidden planet are only found in the largest cities. 

GW often gets a good spot, (though not always, its not up there with brands like Smiths, M&S, clothes and department shops) however it is a recognisable fixture of British shopping streets in a way which is more or less unheard of for  other geek hobby shops. Independent stockists certainly exist, ( and are great) but aren't a fixture of the high street in the way GW s own shops are. Here they would bring in sales for sure, but probably not outreach, as the gw brand itself is more recognisable than any one game or comics shop.

i hope that makes some sense, and apologies that its gone rather off topic.

[Kramer]

15 hours ago, Gaz Taylor said:

This is why I’m not a betting man 😁🤣😉

Although in a big twist the gargant could be from hysh as well 😉

[KingBrodd]

52 minutes ago, Kramer said:

Although in a big twist the gargant could be from hysh as well 😉

I'm just holding out hope that the Gargants drop before 9th Edition. Another 2 month wait for them would be a wee bit of a pain. 

Also the new Warhammer Community Podcast mentioned not having to wait for the Stormcast and Voxcast podcasts to return to talk about the current goings on in the hobby so it's safe to say the Lumineth and Sons of Behemat podcasts have been filmed way in advance.

Edited June 8, 2020 by KingBrodd

[Overread]

Chaos powerfist? 

[KingBrodd]

3 minutes ago, xking said:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/06/09/the-rumour-engine-june-9th-2020/

 

Chaos Space Marines?  Really hoping 9th Edition doesnt end up overshadowing the release of 2 new Factions for AOS.

[PrimeElectrid]

4 minutes ago, KingBrodd said:

Chaos Space Marines?  Really hoping 9th Edition doesnt end up overshadowing the release of 2 new Factions for AOS.

It already has. 

[zilberfrid]

26 minutes ago, xking said:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/06/09/the-rumour-engine-june-9th-2020/

 

I'm guessing new Ironjawz model. But then, I only guess things I want to be true.

[Ggom]

31 minutes ago, xking said:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/06/09/the-rumour-engine-june-9th-2020/

 

As someone who has painted many, many sets of powerfists and lightning claws, this is 90% a chaos lightning claw.  The fact that it is tapered towards the top makes me think it is Indominus pattern, since Cataphractii pattern don’t taper toward the elbow, and Tartaros pattern lightning claws are wolverine style with blades ver the hand instead of on the fingers. Given that there’s already been a chaos terminator release, my guess is that this is a character model. The deformity over the hand and the ichor make me lean towards Nurgle?

[michu]

Ironjawz would have more jagged claws - maybe it's new Night Lords?

[The Brotherhood of Necros]

41 minutes ago, xking said:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/06/09/the-rumour-engine-june-9th-2020/

 

 

First thought that popped into my head? He or she needs to wash their hands...

[Popisdead]

15 hours ago, EccentricCircle said:

e. Here they would bring in sales for sure, but probably not outreach, as the gw brand itself is more recognisable than any one game or comics shop.

Ah okay thanks.  Sounds like the UK GW is a little different than the one we've had in Canada and now NA for the past couple decades.  Locally we have a games cafe that if GW could penetrate into that store, even being 2 blocks away I see it doing really well.  They have so much (table) space plus it it licensed.  The foot traffic and awareness of that location is astounding.  I see  games like Bloodbowl doing quite well.  Also our local GW is on the same block as 3 comic shops who in the past have carried the GW product.  I guess my city is just so far away from UK GW.  ah well

[Ravinsild]

I know some of y'all got your ear to the ground hearing some whispers of upcoming content, is there any whispering predictions of a Lizardmen Blood Bowl Kroxigor and/or a booster pack for more skinks from FW?

[Kramig]

I guess there will be a underwolrd warband, but I don't know about Bloodbowl

[KingBrodd]

2 hours ago, PrimeElectrid said:

It already has. 

Sadly it may have. More importantly I hope the Factions drop before 9th Edition because we have at least a month if not more before 9th which is plenty of time to drop them. 

I just want the Sons of Behemat to also have their time to shine on the WarComm page but that time may too have already passed.

[Popisdead]

2 hours ago, Ggom said:

As someone who has painted many, many sets of powerfists and lightning claws, this is 90% a chaos lightning claw.  The fact that it is tapered towards the top makes me think it is Indominus pattern, since Cataphractii pattern don’t taper toward the elbow, and Tartaros pattern lightning claws are wolverine style with blades ver the hand instead of on the fingers. Given that there’s already been a chaos terminator release, my guess is that this is a character model. The deformity over the hand and the ichor make me lean towards Nurgle?

Does anyone remember when lightning claws were,.. claws? not kitchen knives on a power fist or sharpened fingers?

 

What a bizarre change that aesthetic direction took.

 

I would say Night Lords since NLs hard a terminator preview AND it's probably blood.

[OkayestDM]

2 hours ago, The Brotherhood of Necros said:

 

First thought that popped into my head? He or she needs to wash their hands...

Alternatively, they went waaaaaaaaay overboard on the hand sanitizer.

[Nighthaunt Noob]

5 hours ago, KingBrodd said:

Chaos Space Marines?  Really hoping 9th Edition doesnt end up overshadowing the release of 2 new Factions for AOS.

let's calm down a bit...the vast majority of Rumour Engines have been AOS lately

[KingBrodd]

17 minutes ago, Nighthaunt Noob said:

let's calm down a bit...the vast majority of Rumour Engines have been AOS lately

Oh no I wasnt referring to the Rumour Engine.

[Ggom]

Unlikely to be the Contekar (Night Lords) terminators - those wield Nostraman chainswords, and wear Tartaros armor. That doesn’t look like a Tartaros fist. It’s more likely to be a 40k release given the shape of the claw.

[Ggom]

3 hours ago, Popisdead said:

Does anyone remember when lightning claws were,.. claws? not kitchen knives on a power fist or sharpened fingers?

 

What a bizarre change that aesthetic direction took.

 

I would say Night Lords since NLs hard a terminator preview AND it's probably blood.

I actually have only been in Heresy for the last 3 years - what did lightning claws used to look like?

[Lord_of_theRavenspire]

I'd guess new DG to coincide with the war of the spider release