Riavan Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Rogue Explorator said: True, but they got the Tzaangor to compensate a bit. Really, as far as mortals go, only Khorne is spoiled for choices, for the other Slaves are still a go to if one wants to go mortal heavy. Yeah Tzaangors are their mortals. They have a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turgol Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Rogue Explorator said: True, but they got the Tzaangor to compensate a bit. Really, as far as mortals go, only Khorne is spoiled for choices, for the other Slaves are still a go to if one wants to go mortal heavy. I am assuming they will simply compensate through new daemons, which seem to be more numerous than Tzeentch. I'd be happy with just one type of mortals. We do not have many ways to make them cool, except....make them elven! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmac Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Yeah, I mean even Skaven and FEC at least got a new hero each. Fyreslayers, an army with two unit kits, got the Beastmen treatment instead. They also didn't get a vs box, so we could end up with even Sylvaneth getting more new stuff than they did. That said, apparently someone at the presentation asked about Gortrek and they were very evasive about answering, so I suspect that will happen eventually. For now this is going to be one of my survey gripes for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turgol Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Just now, Riavan said: Yeah Tzaangors are their mortals. They have a lot. Tzaangor is the tzeentchian solution to the mortal question, yes. For Slaanesh, daemons seem to be part of it, but slaanesh aelfs would be the mindblowing solution! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riavan Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Turgol said: Tzaangor is the tzeentchian solution to the mortal question, yes. For Slaanesh, daemons seem to be part of it, but slaanesh aelfs would be the mindblowing solution! For sure, but the elf gods hate slaanesh from what I understand, including malerion. He is looking very demonish, but I expect he will still be order. Could make him get corrupted in some way though. Edited March 28, 2019 by Riavan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turgol Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Well corrupted slaanesh elves has always been part of WH universe. You know, the cult of pleasure. It was never really made into an army, but the mortal realms are rife with opportunities... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, prochuvi said: Yes 100% this. Seems gw didnt put effort in fyreslsyers. Only the comon forge,copy\paste two random endless spells and all the real work have been the golem. I really cant believe how heck a army as fyreslsyer with 3 years only have two boxes of units but we are getting 999999999 new daemons units each year. yeah like an army that old that finally got an update in 4 years is just a battletome with no units is disappointing, especially when you compare to Stormcast who got 3 new shiny releases during those four years compare to them. I mean I hope the book can revitalize them but it difficult when that was the main complaint about them was unit variety. it would have to be something like insane gristlegore rules or bringing them back as a semi elite army. honestly I hope they rebox the vulkites into 20 man units and sell them at 60usd like they did with some of the early stormcast units 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angrycontra Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 I'm rather disappointed with lack of new fyreslayer models but that endless spell(?) Is probably one of the coolest I've seen (almost a waste if it's a endless spell/prayer, I'd almost wish that it would be summoned unit). Also based on description, some kind of non-hero magmadroth army sounds possible which was my bare minimum request. Really cool cover art too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draakur Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Someone mentioned the Looncurse release tells us that Sylvaneth are likely the next new tome - but aren’t we being shown that Fyreslayers are the Order Battletome for the year now? So no more Order for 2019? Or are they saying that AFTER Fyreslayers, there will still be another 4 tomes...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitorsz Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 30 minutes ago, Draakur said: Someone mentioned the Looncurse release tells us that Sylvaneth are likely the next new tome - but aren’t we being shown that Fyreslayers are the Order Battletome for the year now? So no more Order for 2019? Or are they saying that AFTER Fyreslayers, there will still be another 4 tomes...? I think they meant Fyreslayers were the order tome, which would fulfill their "one for each grand alliance" promise. BUT... it's only march. There's no way we're going to go another 9 months without another AoS battletome. There will be more this year. I mean we already know slaanesh is coming at the very least. So there will be more beyond these 4 that were promised. I won't be surprised if we see Sylvaneth, Seraphon and Ironjaws get the "3 spells+terrain+battletome" update this year. Thought it's possible some of those are waiting for a larger release. Sylvaneth seems like a guarantee now with the Looncurse hint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klamm Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Amazing KoS, and love that Daemon Prince. Disappointed we've not seen any mortals yet, but hopefully that is yet to be revealed... Also please stop continue using my ideas lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinros Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, xking said: I'm also very disappointed that Slaanesh did not get any Mortals. Why is it that only Khorne can have a decent range of mortal units. The new Keeper Of Secrets is cool, but I think The Mortals units are the more interesting of the god exclusive units. They are not going to reveal everything at once. Look at the previous releases. Edited March 28, 2019 by shinros 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeryenn Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) First of all while still hot after announcements: EPIC FAIL GW My fears with Fyreslayers made flesh. Battletome, scenery and spells. For a faction that has THREE units other than heroes (correct?). Army of clones that could have been easily expanded in the theme of lava, golems, fire hybrids whatever. No. You give them spells. Why would you make new Fyreslayer units if you can create 10 new Stormcasts every year, right? GW gave me ZERO motivation for Fyreslayers and I'm pretty sure it will stay that way for years. Probably same treatment for Ironjawz on the way which need more units just as much. Forbidden Power is just ok. I like the design. They'll be probably obligatory for competetive play. Then we have a teaser for Sylvaneth vs Gloomspite. As Sylvaneth is my main force this is the most exciting news for me. With FEC vs Skaven boxed game we received 1 new unit per side and I expect nothing less from that release. It will be autobuy as I was already interested in Gloomspite. I don't care about Shadespire warband but they caught my interest with Warcry. Iron Golem tribe looks awesome. Actually it looks better for me than... Slaanesh which still is nice but not my thing though. Keeper of Secrets is great but I can't stand the faces of normal troops. Especially that on the Endless spell. And yeah - no mortals? They want to hit two birds with one stone and adjust the release for both AoS and 40k - I don't like it. Expected more. So far every Chaos force had more interesting mortals for me than deamons. Same mistake (my opinion) GW made with Nurgle. Blightkings are the top design minis of all time but instead they'd focused on funny/ugly deamons. Adepticon was much better than GAMA as expected. A bit surprised they are still holding up with Darkoath. Seems like it might be the main 2019 AoS release instead of Slaanesh which is strange but who knows what they prepared for us. Edited March 28, 2019 by Aryann 6 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charleston Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 As I had a terrible night it was a neat distraction that I could check those previews like 30min past upload. Althrough none of the release affects a faction I play I am yet amazed by the quality of the previews. Thoose Slaanesh Models are simply amazing, the Fyreslayers deserved a BT soon and forbidden power may be a nice addition, too. I noticed 2 other things: GW had explicitly said last year that the last adepticon was going to be their biggest announcement. And it was with Idoneth and several other news. This time it was supposed to be a "normal" Preview Seminar. Therefore it would be unfait to compare thoose two and call it a lack of good news. I get the vibe from Warcry that all thoose different Tribes we are introduced to may be related with Darkoath. I start beliving we won´t only get "the barbarians" but several different tribes for StD that are specialised on different things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleboda Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Ironbreaker said: How to Fyreslayers lug a furnace to a battlefield? The terrain releases keep getting more ridiculous. You'd think both faction set up shop in the same territory by how things are shaping up. It's all where you draw the line. For decades I scoffed at bases with any decoration in them ("Oh really? That same skull/rock/branch moves up the battlefield with your guy the whole fight?"). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riavan Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Draakur said: Someone mentioned the Looncurse release tells us that Sylvaneth are likely the next new tome - but aren’t we being shown that Fyreslayers are the Order Battletome for the year now? So no more Order for 2019? Or are they saying that AFTER Fyreslayers, there will still be another 4 tomes...? Nurgle and tzeentch mortal units still outnumber the choices fyreslayers, ironjawz and FEC get, lol. I think we have learnt to stay the hell away from the original age of sigmar armies, because they wont get any real support. I want to get a new kharadron army, but I'm scared they will never see new troop releases just like these other guys. Edited March 28, 2019 by Riavan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charleston Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Btw, we didn´t hat a spotlight on this beside the trailer. I guess this will be the obligatory Slaanesh Terrain. The pile of gold on the floor looks like the Idoneth Endless Spell Rumour debunked (Rumour Engine with the gold and treasure) 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke82 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 It all looks awesome, my poor wallet. Chaos is an expensive path to follow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleboda Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 On Slaanesh. I'm pleased. I can finally combine with Nurgle for a sexually transmitted disease army 😉. As one part of a happy couple that partakes of both the things shown in 50 Shades and the sort of clubs where ladies earn easy cash by taking advantage of customers, I applaud GW's remarkably brave choices of videos for Slaanesh. That was straight up BDSM and strip club stuff. Bravely chosen and well executed, GW. 👏 Now, we just need variant parts for the Keeper. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStreicher Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 All releases seems either okay or awesome (Slaanesh). but ofc the fyreslsyers will carry a forge to battle 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinros Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, xking said: I hope so, because at the moment I am not impressed. Out of all the chaos gods, I believe slaanesh should have gotten an AoS Mortals release. And Fyreslayers should have gotten some new non-hero units. On facebook they said there is more to come, relax. If the tome comes out with no mortal units then we get out the pitchforks. (joke) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStreicher Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Turgol said: but slaanesh aelfs would be the mindblowing solution! And they world make no sense „yeah he‘ll eat our souls, let‘s serve him“ humans and other races except Aelfes make sense imo Edited March 28, 2019 by JackStreicher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtnaps Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, JackStreicher said: And they world make no sense „yeah he‘ll eat our souls, let‘s serve him“ humans and other races except Waldes make sense imo Actually they would make perfect sense lore wise, there have been examples of it since WHFB with the cult of pleasure and recently while it isn't a battletome there was even one in the Scourge of Fate novel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStreicher Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Dirtnaps said: Actually they would make perfect sense lore wise, there have been examples of it since WHFB with the cult of pleasure and recently while it isn't a battletome there was even one in the Scourge of Fate novel. WHF is a bad comparison since at its conclusion all Elfes were eaten, so I doubt they‘re too keen on reliving that? I haven‘t read the novel though I expect there are some rare exceptions of „Pkease don‘t eat me Slasnesh“ —— Am I the only one who thinks the direction of Faction Terrain has become ridiculous? BoK carry a massive shrine, dwarfs an entire forge. And what will aelfes do Next? Will they carry a massive white ivory tower? Or an entire castle, since the scenery does not have to make any sense being on every battlefield it seems..? Edited March 28, 2019 by JackStreicher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icarion Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 1 minute ago, JackStreicher said: WHF is a bad comparison since at its conclusion all Elfes were eaten, so I doubt they‘re too keen on reliving that? —— Am I the only one who thinks the direction of Faction Terrain has become ridiculous? BoK carry a massive shrine, dwarfs a entire forge. And what will aelfes do Next? Will they carry a massive white ivory tower? Or an entire castle, since the scenery doesn’t not have to make any sense being on every battlefield it seems..? Maybe they miss it? In the Idoneth Deepkin battletome, they mention that despite the purifying spells that teclis wove, some deepkin devolve into what they call "Mallachi" a state of raging madness that apparently ends in "savage debauchery" The battletome says that among the idoneth this state is rare, but I see no reason why some elves wouldn't miss the presence of slaanesh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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