The Jabber Tzeentch Posted December 21, 2016 Author Share Posted December 21, 2016 I've updated the first post with recent clarifications and releases that were confirmed rumours. Running thin on the ground though only Steamhead Duardin as a main faction that seems likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turgol Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Disciplines of Tzeentch and the changes it imply to the game seem like an awesome direction the game is taking. I suggested a while ago a three tier system for army building: GA allegiance with thin bonuses, faction group with better, specific bonuses, and faction allegiance with very strong bonuses. By Sylvaneth/Beastclaw/Bonnesplitta the system was functioning as a two tier army system, which made some very intuitive combinations (example: Stormcast + Extremis) lack any kind of benefit. I'am glad GW took this road. IMO it is the perfect army buiding system: it allows varied or very specific armies to coexist, in a way we WHFB would have loved to see (remember all those old only Khorne, only a certain region of the Empire, but also general Undead or general Chaos armies?). Steamhead Duarding seem less and less like a small, Fyreslayer like release, and I guess it will be a Duardin Battletome with 4 factions (Dispossesed, Fyreslayers, Steamhead and Ironweld), which would be a very sound decision both to reinvigorate the failed FS release and have a huge range to choose between varied or very specific armies. It could also be a chance to fix Fyreslayers, without having to release a new specific Battletome. I'am also very glad at what I'am hearing about the fluff. Moving to a more "established" background, with places and cultures you can relate o - some of them provided and developed by GW without closing to fan creation- seems like a very sound decision as well. I'am glad they are also keeping the grand, total war feeling of the fluff, with Tzeentch using Khorne and Nurgle's struggle to gain chaos hegemony. Both moves seem to be making AoS an awesome game. After a failed launch and a shy ulterior development, GW seems to be moving in the very right direction they pointed out since Sylvaneth Battletome, Allgates and the General's Handbook. Both gamewise and lore-wise they have a good road to go before getting there. But no one can deny (although we still have to read the Tzeentch fluff) that they are on the right path. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Misfire Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Crossposting from the Chaos forum with a compilation of screengrabs from the Disciples of Tzeentch video: Spoiler 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warboss Gorbolg Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Excited about the Duardin in the picture above. Also interesting that the Duardin is wielding a sword. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawnmane Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 15 minutes ago, Warboss Gorbolg said: Excited about the Duardin in the picture above. Also interesting that the Duardin is wielding a sword. Yeah, he looks like a Duardin corsair or sailor, maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dez Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Anyone else notice that a Tzeentch book is going to 'change' everything? Eh? Eh? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSDdeloach Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 The dwarves will fall from the sky I hear... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Explorator Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 This looks like a real flexible approach to allegiance, I really like this. It will be interesting to see how this applies to other armies, factions and Grand Alliances, that don't have the clear connection of monogod lists, but it looks perfect for Chaos. I really like that the Tzaangor Shamans spell works in matched play. You wouldn't want to waste reserve points on a Tzaangor or two, but it allows you to replenish a unit a bit. All I need now is a release date and money in my account come preorder day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daedalus81 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 53 minutes ago, Dawnmane said: Yeah, he looks like a Duardin corsair or sailor, maybe? Sailor on an airship... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricPaladin Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 29 minutes ago, WSDdeloach said: The dwarves will fall from the sky I hear... I would love there to be a sky pirate faction for every grand alliance! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turragor Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Warboss Gorbolg said: Excited about the Duardin in the picture above. Also interesting that the Duardin is wielding a sword. The red bearded guy fighting the Tzeentch sorcerer? They said on stream that that is a mage (fire battle mage) iirc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Alec Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 That one poor Ironjaw being lit the heck up by three flamers. RIP. Book looks amazing. Everyone is getting on the Tzeench bandwagon. If only the Fyreslayer release had been this good. Is there no new Lord of Change? That was a constant rumour. No talk about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daedalus81 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 So GW settled the debate on the 'soul portal' - it is a disk. Still no word on the cape or dwarfy thing.https://www.warhammer-community.com/2016/12/21/rumour-engine-december-21st/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjarni St. Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 That Ironjaw's expression makes it pretty clear those Flamers fluffed their to-Wound rolls. They've not shown us the new LoC (unless my memory is flaking) but the LoC on the cover of the book is pretty clearly the new one, with the same foundations as Magnus the Red. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobgoblinclub Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 51 minutes ago, daedalus81 said: So GW settled the debate on the 'soul portal' - it is a disk. Still no word on the cape or dwarfy thing.https://www.warhammer-community.com/2016/12/21/rumour-engine-december-21st/ I wonder if they've shuffled their release schedule since then. Maybe duardin were on the way but Tzeentch got bumped? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daedalus81 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 (edited) Just now, hobgoblinclub said: I wonder if they've shuffled their release schedule since then. Maybe duardin were on the way but Tzeentch got bumped? Nah. I don't think they intended any of it to be chronological. We'll see that dwarf thingy soon and the cape when Commorragh hits. Though I don't doubt inklings of these dwarfs were in past rumors so the models may have been around for a long time now. It will be interesting to see the date on the sprue. Edited December 21, 2016 by daedalus81 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJetski Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 We have heard rumours of this Tzeentch release since the Ironjawz came out. I wonder if it was delayed to accomodate the new battletome format? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riavan Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 I hope both gaunt summoners are able to be used with all the keywords they talked about and not just the silver tower one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowheart Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 10 minutes ago, PJetski said: We have heard rumours of this Tzeentch release since the Ironjawz came out. I wonder if it was delayed to accomodate the new battletome format? I've wondering the same, makes me think the Lord Veritant was somehow going to be tied into this release. If Tzeench has random sleeper cultists planted in various places, would make sense for Sigmar to send out his Witch Hunters to find and deal with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinros Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Shadowheart said: I've wondering the same, makes me think the Lord Veritant was somehow going to be tied into this release. If Tzeench has random sleeper cultists planted in various places, would make sense for Sigmar to send out his Witch Hunters to find and deal with them. Still hoping for a devoted of sigmar tome, devoted of sigmar pretty much laugh at chaos with the war altar. I mean fluff wise it would make sense for sigmar to properly set them up again considering the type of warfare tzeentch seems to be employing. In the grand alliance order tome it's the devoted job after the stormcast leave(after taking a realm gate) to spread the faith of sigmar to new cities etc and cleanse corruption. Edited December 21, 2016 by shinros Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHHaunts Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 I'm don't think the bearded dude is a duaradin. My first impression was fire battlement. . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinros Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Just now, KHHaunts said: I'm don't think the bearded dude is a duaradin. My first impression was fire battlement. . . . He is a human fire battle mage it's been said on stream. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHHaunts Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 4 minutes ago, shinros said: He is a human fire battle mage it's been said on stream. I remember them saying that. They seemed to be speculating more than anything. I agree with them. But I don't think they were certain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinros Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 (edited) 1 minute ago, KHHaunts said: I remember them saying that. They seemed to be speculating more than anything. I agree with them. But I don't think they were certain. He looks human to me personally I don't know why people think it's a duardin there is clearly fire on his beard and sword and red robes. Considering the magic theme makes sense it would be a human fire battle mage also have you ever seen a dwarf/duardin using a sword? Edited December 21, 2016 by shinros Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHHaunts Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 4 minutes ago, shinros said: He looks human to me personally I don't know why people think it's a duardin there is clearly fire on his beard and sword and red robes. Considering the magic theme makes sense it would be a human fire battle mage also have you ever seen a dwarf/duardin using a sword? It's not unheard of actually particularly in the man o war series. But I think it's the "craggy" features on the face look quite dwarfish but I think that's just the the artist. I'd still. Assume human. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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