calcysimon Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 (edited) the real issue is that it will not be sold outside of the box 😥 and from the image we can spot on thee right side maybe a mutilator, its similar to forsakens of total war (https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9e/15/19/9e1519fb9a550b37c2789532c703c02b.jpg) , i hope in a similar unit type for aos too Edited February 9, 2019 by calcysimon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novakai Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, calcysimon said: the real issue is that it will not be sold outside of the box 😥 and from the image we can spot on thee right side maybe a mutilator, its similar to forsakens of total war (https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9e/15/19/9e1519fb9a550b37c2789532c703c02b.jpg) , i hope in a similar unit type for aos too yeah that in of the down side of those boxes if you just want the hero and not everything else you either have to wait or scour on ebay for the individual kit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirjava13 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Aren't the new models from these boxes always released solo after a while? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calcysimon Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 I am still waiting for soul war's minis sold separately and dark imperium "solo" miniatures so I am afraid we always need to wait 1 year or more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, Kirjava13 said: Aren't the new models from these boxes always released solo after a while? Yep GW has been really good at that. The duel boxes sell for a while and then GW breaks them down after a few months - varying the time depending on the release. The bonus is that the duel box offers you a steep discount, esp if you buy with a friend or trade away half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chikout Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 (edited) It usually depends how to sprues are layed out. If the heroes come on their own sprue, they are usually release on their own afterwards. Edited February 9, 2019 by Chikout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutton Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 6 hours ago, Carnelian said: I accidentally double posted so here is some close-up screenshots of the characters from the images. A lot look knightly to me, so I thought perhaps they will be order models, but given the setting its equally possible to be just loads of different human factions that have heard the call of Archaon. The there's definitely Darkoath in there. Looking at them, my guess is a starter box with a knightly faction and a darkoath faction. I think a majority, if not all, of those images are of Chaos Darkoath guys. Maybe we'll be getting them later in the year when Warcry comes out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michu Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 All people complaining about Master of Possessions being exclusive to the box - this time all miniatures in the box are new, you're not buying it only for characters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skabnoze Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 7 hours ago, Overread said: I dithered over if I wanted to get the collectors edition of the Battletome - but in the end I decided a ribbon, cover and gold edging just wasn't quite enough for me for double the price Yeah, I wish the limited edition books were more like the fancy ones they used to do in the past that came in a box with some tokens and extras. The Genestealer Cult limited edition book was really cool. That said, I did pick up the fancy version of the Gloomspite book even though they did not really do enough in my opinion to warrant the cost. But it is the first time they have ever given goblins their own army book, I have played them as a full army for over 25 years now, and so I thought of it more as paying a bit extra as a thank you for giving me the army I always wanted. There are a few other books that I would buy the special edition for the same reason. If they expand Bonesplitterz or Ironjawz more then I would buy that book. If Darkoath ends up a full army range inspired by Frank Frazetta’s Conan art style then I would happily buy that book. And even though I don’t plan to buy an army for common people I would buy the limited edition book in a second if they release a Free Cities style book that combines a lot of the city-dwelling human, dwarfs, aelves, and other races together into an army. That is such a cool idea for AoS that I would pay extra for the book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramer Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Overread said: Yep GW has been really good at that. The duel boxes sell for a while and then GW breaks them down after a few months - varying the time depending on the release. The bonus is that the duel box offers you a steep discount, esp if you buy with a friend or trade away half. Tell that to the lord relictor from the launch box 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skabnoze Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 1 hour ago, calcysimon said: I am still waiting for soul war's minis sold separately and dark imperium "solo" miniatures so I am afraid we always need to wait 1 year or more There are two kinds of boxes that they make. There are starter boxes that have unique miniatures, but that generally get different sculpts for a main release later on. And then there are temporary 2 faction release boxes that are a way to sell new models early. Usually after a wait those models are packaged up separately. Its hard to tell which type of box this new 40k box is. My guess is that their production capacity has increased and they can change the 2 faction boxes so that they contain all new sculpts rather than just a couple new ones and they will release the models separately later on. But this could also be a Dark Imperium box replacement. We will have to wait and see. As someone who has played Black Legion since the 2nd edition 40k Chaos codex I will probably buy a couple sets of this box. I put my Chaos army in the closet when Dark Vengeance came out years ago with new Chaos models. I want new standard Chaos marines with the updated Chaos aesthetic and it looks like they are finally delivering that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skabnoze Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kramer said: Tell that to the lord relictor from the launch box They never release the models from the core starter sets separately. What they generally do is release a separate version of those models. However, there are exceptions such as what they did for Chainrasps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramer Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, Skabnoze said: They never release the models from the core starter sets separately. What they generally do is release a separate version of those models. However, there are exceptions such as what they did for Chainrasps. Hehe I found it funny But that's kind of the seiruous point in there. Gw does work with a lot of exceptions on what we interpret as their rules. I wouldn't count on models from sets getting seperate releases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Still-young Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 32 minutes ago, Kramer said: Hehe I found it funny But that's kind of the seiruous point in there. Gw does work with a lot of exceptions on what we interpret as their rules. I wouldn't count on models from sets getting seperate releases. If it’s essentially a new starter, with pushfit models, no. If they’re full kits, then they’ll be released separately at some point. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sorokyl Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Skabnoze said: They never release the models from the core starter sets separately. What they generally do is release a separate version of those models. However, there are exceptions such as what they did for Chainrasps. 1 hour ago, Still-young said: If it’s essentially a new starter, with pushfit models, no. If they’re full kits, then they’ll be released separately at some point. It is not uncommon for GW to plan the sprue in advance such that not only are the factions in seperate halves, but individual unit(s) on a single sprue and can be sold individually. Look at the first AoS starter, the leaders were sold seperately. 40k Deathwatch Overkill Broodcoven, etc. WHQ Silver tower had some of the heroes on seperate sprues too. GW is smart. they will find a way when it makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsharitt Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Huh, with the clan rats being the only model going no longer available (aside from metal duplicates of other available models), I assumed they were going to be the only rebox with round bases, especially after the lack of rebasing with Beasts of Chaos and Gloomspite, but d@mn, they redid the whole Skaven army, even the old metal and resin ones. Maybe the rumor I heard was right and they actually are going to start packing everything with rounds. One interesting thing I noticed is that for things that have been webstore only and are staying that way(i.e. not technically reboxed), they say they come with round and square bases. So it sounds more like GW is finally doing the right thing™ and just sending round bases with things they're already shipping directly anyway instead of trying to double dip by selling models with square bases and then selling the proper round bases for extra, Hopefully we see that more widely across the web store soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sorokyl Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 15 minutes ago, bsharitt said: Huh, with the clan rats being the only model going no longer available (aside from metal duplicates of other available models), I assumed they were going to be the only rebox with round bases, especially after the lack of rebasing with Beasts of Chaos and Gloomspite, but d@mn, they redid the whole Skaven army, even the old metal and resin ones. Maybe the rumor I heard was right and they actually are going to start packing everything with rounds. One interesting thing I noticed is that for things that have been webstore only and are staying that way(i.e. not technically reboxed), they say they come with round and square bases. So it sounds more like GW is finally doing the right thing™ and just sending round bases with things they're already shipping directly anyway instead of trying to double dip by selling models with square bases and then selling the proper round bases for extra, Hopefully we see that more widely across the web store soon. clan rats were in a retail box before, and are in a retail box now. They are going to be in retail stores. Hence they were "reboxed". Everything else is metal, so it wasn't reboxed, just shipped with a different base in the generic webstore only packaging. (all that stuff still webstore only) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukezilla91 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Bit of an odd one: there are two different products on the site for FEC. One is Crypt Ghast Courtier for £29 - 20 models The other is Crypt Ghouls for £25 - 20 models The only difference seems to be that the Crypt Ghast Courtier entry says about the box being packed with extras. Can anyone shed any light on this for me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsharitt Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, Lukezilla91 said: Bit of an odd one: there are two different products on the site for FEC. One is Crypt Ghast Courtier for £29 - 20 models The other is Crypt Ghouls for £25 - 20 models The only difference seems to be that the Crypt Ghast Courtier entry says about the box being packed with extras. Can anyone shed any light on this for me? That is odd, same thing on the US side ($40 and $47). According to miniature market, they price was $40. Maybe a price hike but they forgot to take down the old one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackStreicher Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, Lukezilla91 said: Bit of an odd one: there are two different products on the site for FEC. One is Crypt Ghast Courtier for £29 - 20 models The other is Crypt Ghouls for £25 - 20 models The only difference seems to be that the Crypt Ghast Courtier entry says about the box being packed with extras. Can anyone shed any light on this for me? Did they put in enough models so you can build a courtier without having 9 ghouls wasted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Doubtful; more likely someone who uploaded the prices didn't take one down and mistakenly thought they were different kits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsharitt Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 1 minute ago, JackStreicher said: Did they put in enough models so you can build a courtier without having 9 ghouls wasted? That'd be nice, but to do it, wouldn't they basically have to redo part of the sprue separately, and if they're going to do that, why no repackage it by itself for $25? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukezilla91 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, JackStreicher said: Did they put in enough models so you can build a courtier without having 9 ghouls wasted? Funnily enough I asked myself that one, maybe they’ve thrown an extra sprue in there but with no extra bases? (I’m not sure how the sprues are laid out for them so I’m not sure how many ‘free’ sghouls that would net you) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollowHills Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 17 hours ago, xking said: Check out this interview with David Guymer on his Hamilcar novel https://www.trackofwords.com/2019/02/09/rapid-fire-david-guymer-talks-hamilcar-champion-of-the-gods/ Hamilcar is one AoS's best original characters. I read the bear eater story in last year's black library celebration, it was probably one of the worst things I've ever read. Genuinely, I've read work by creative writing students of a quality far beyond that "professionally written" story. Even the basics, like scene setting, personal descriptions etc were awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overread Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 I've noticed that a fair few BL books are quite light on descriptive details. I think its partly because most of what they describe are models in the range so a qiuck glance at the GW website often shows you all you need to know; and is likely considered "expected" knowledge on the part of the reader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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