PJetski Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Am I crazy or does it seem like they are going to be making larger factions going forward? More traditional WHFB armies like Seraphon and less small factions like Stormcast Extremis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanMaguire1991 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 1 minute ago, PJetski said: Am I crazy or does it seem like they are going to be making larger factions going forward? More traditional WHFB armies like Seraphon and less small factions like Stormcast Extremis. Wouldn't call the Stormcast Extremis a small faction, more like an add on to the regular Stormcast seeing as they share the same keywords. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinros Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 13 minutes ago, PJetski said: Am I crazy or does it seem like they are going to be making larger factions going forward? More traditional WHFB armies like Seraphon and less small factions like Stormcast Extremis. That's what it looks like to me since the battletome is called disciples of tzeentch. I bet in the second edition handbook the god dedicated armies are going to be one big happy family. Since it seems a lot of people have problems with how battleline is handled in terms of factions. Also if this is the case I can rest easy with Death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Explorator Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 22 minutes ago, PJetski said: Am I crazy or does it seem like they are going to be making larger factions going forward? More traditional WHFB armies like Seraphon and less small factions like Stormcast Extremis. They have been very unpredictable with faction sizes. Going in, Stormcast, Bloodbound and Seraphon where very big factions, with Stormcast further expanding through Extremis Chamber, and Bloodbound with Slaves to Darkness being so easy to bring in. But then there came the small to tiny Fyreslayers, Everchosen and Ironjaws. Meanwhile Sylvaneth where midling. And then, to top it of, came the no new model Battletomes, widening small to tiny factions into slightly bigger factions. Meanwhile there has been a lot of hopping around between making moves that make Grand Alliance armies a real proposition and those that pretty much shut them down. It will be really interesting to see where this Battletome shifts things, but I wouldn't expect it to be a set-in-stone precedent for further developements any more than previous battletomes have been. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinros Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Rogue Explorator said: They have been very unpredictable with faction sizes. Going in, Stormcast, Bloodbound and Seraphon where very big factions, with Stormcast further expanding through Extremis Chamber, and Bloodbound with Slaves to Darkness being so easy to bring in. But then there came the small to tiny Fyreslayers, Everchosen and Ironjaws. Meanwhile Sylvaneth where midling. And then, to top it of, came the no new model Battletomes, widening small to tiny factions into slightly bigger factions. Meanwhile there has been a lot of hopping around between making moves that make Grand Alliance armies a real proposition and those that pretty much shut them down. It will be really interesting to see where this Battletome shifts things, but I wouldn't expect it to be a set-in-stone precedent for further developements any more than previous battletomes have been. I do think the second edition of the general handbook will be the direction the game will go down towards. I can easily see them folding in the wanderer's with the sylvaneth(example) if the theories are true that it's going to be a "tzeentch" allegiance book. Since it's called "Disciplines of tzeentch" it's a very open term instead of "Tzeentch Arcanites" I feel. You have humans, beastmen and possibly(high likely) daemons together in one book. We will just have to wait and see. Edited December 20, 2016 by shinros Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowheart Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Happy days, I've been looking forward to a Tzeench AoS release for some time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daedalus81 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 1 hour ago, Sennyo said: about the dwarf leak picture are we not certain it the top part of this model https://www.warhammer-community.com/2016/12/20/gathering-storm-first-look/ No - there was a 360 of him on twitch. That piece is nowhere to be found. The cloak and the beak soul portal are also absent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElectricPaladin Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Just now, daedalus81 said: No - there was a 360 of him on twitch. That piece is nowhere to be found. The cloak and the beak soul portal are also absent. Just now, daedalus81 said: No - there was a 360 of him on twitch. That piece is nowhere to be found. The cloak and the beak soul portal are also absent. Just now, daedalus81 said: No - there was a 360 of him on twitch. That piece is nowhere to be found. The cloak and the beak soul portal are also absent. Daedalus81 is triply sure of this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinros Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 1 minute ago, daedalus81 said: No - there was a 360 of him on twitch. That piece is nowhere to be found. The cloak and the beak soul portal are also absent. Daedalus what happened? Still I am quite excited for this release, since tzeentch and his lore was my introduction to warhammer table top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daedalus81 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Just now, ElectricPaladin said: Daedalus81 is triply sure of this. Yea the forum decided to not like me for a moment there. I just really hope the Mutalith is in this book. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowheart Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 6 minutes ago, shinros said: Still I am quite excited for this release, since tzeentch and his lore was my introduction to warhammer table top. Me too, although Chaos Warriors were my original army, It was Tzeench Beastmen I properly learned to play with , so you can imagine I'm rather pleased with this upcoming release, a good 12 (ish) years later, and I finally have proper Tzaangor models Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkiham Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 20 minutes ago, daedalus81 said: Yea the forum decided to not like me for a moment there. I just really hope the Mutalith is in this book. My God yes. That beastie desperately needs a tzeentch key word. Did anyone else notice that archer in the background? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daedalus81 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 16 minutes ago, Shadowheart said: Me too, although Chaos Warriors were my original army, It was Tzeench Beastmen I properly learned to play with , so you can imagine I'm rather pleased with this upcoming release, a good 12 (ish) years later, and I finally have proper Tzaangor models Same although I am going to miss my heavily armored warriors. Here's to hoping they have 2 wounds like they used to. Having ranged units on disks makes it all better though. Remember the 'chaos punk archers' from Battlemasters? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nico Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 Dusting off that Fatesworn Warband and removing most of the models from the Jaws of @Thanatos Ares 's four Flappies (Flesh Eater Courts' monsters). Hopefully add all the existing stuff to the new stuff. Excited! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Lyons Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 31 minutes ago, daedalus81 said: No - there was a 360 of him on twitch. That piece is nowhere to be found. The cloak and the beak soul portal are also absent. The apparent edge of the beak soul portal be seen on the top of the disk-riding tzaangor. The cloak is probably a later release we haven't seen yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Changer Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 1 hour ago, StealthKnightSteg said: There is a dude behind the vulture model holding high a large scroll.. what could he be? I'm wondering if they're the equivalent of a standard bearer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requizen Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 7 minutes ago, Thomas Lyons said: The apparent edge of the beak soul portal be seen on the top of the disk-riding tzaangor. The cloak is probably a later release we haven't seen yet. I'm guessing the "cloak" is part of the "Gangs of Commorrogh" DEldar book that we saw the cover of in the WD leak. Tzeentch is going to be a big release for that army. Not just new models, but a Magic heavy army getting a spell lore is good news, especially after Rules of 1 hit them hard. Tzeentch based shooting armies are already pretty good, this will just be a nice boost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daedalus81 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Thomas Lyons said: The apparent edge of the beak soul portal be seen on the top of the disk-riding tzaangor. The cloak is probably a later release we haven't seen yet. I am not certain of that. The disks are more organic and the colors used differ as well, but are in the same overall scheme. The rumor pic feels very structural/carved. Additionally these Tzaangors are being held up by plastic flames where this seems to indicate a flying base insert. Edited December 20, 2016 by daedalus81 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requizen Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 There are other disc riders in the back of the pictures, it still looks like a disc to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daedalus81 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 (edited) No denying that. I just have a suspicion that it could be something else especially since there is usually a centerpiece style model. Hopefully they'll give us close-ups tomorrow on twitch. Edited December 20, 2016 by daedalus81 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hobgoblinclub Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 6 hours ago, Arkiham said: The flying tzaangors will have a 3+ save against ground based melee troops. (Other disks grant +2 to the save. And currently tzaangors have a 5+ save. That'd be nice. The Tzeentch lord on disc has that rule but the Herald of Tzeentch on disc doesn't, so who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulsmith Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 I am super excited, especially if they turn out to include daemons as well. I would like to think the guy with scroll may be some kind of support character? I would find it odd if a Tzeentch force would have anything keyword priest, so I won't say it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riavan Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 It would be real weird for the gaunt summoner on foot to be included and not the one on the disc in the everchosen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alastair Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 If it's mainly just the new Tzeentch models in the book, couldn't they still just include the daemons as part of the battalions so they're given the same allegiance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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