The Rumour Thread

[alghero81]

I never understood why they never reboxed  some of the more popular options from those specialist games like Spire of Dawn, I think only Tzeentch got a special treatment following Silver Tower?

The new skirmish rules in WD are nice but too generic and so far from Kill Team kinda of approach and considering is taking them at the very least 2 magazines to write them down I strongly suspect we are not going to see other skirmish rules any time soon. Would kinda invalidate all work done on WD...

[Televiper11]

Most impressive.

[novakai]

6 hours ago, robinlvalentine said:

Again, it's not something we can draw meaningful conclusions from. How significant 'selling out' of a product is is relative to how much of it you were keeping in stock in the first place. How many boxes did they actually have at the start of last year? 10? 10,000? We have no idea. 

Why were they bought? Are people hungry for a religious fanatic faction in AOS, or was it just 40k players looking for parts for conversions? We have no idea.

I not putting anything on the rumor I am just hypothesising why people buy those certain, I know a lot people use that Flagellant set for the head and conversion and other buy it because Total War Warhammer Flagellant where pretty baller. of course you could have been the unlucky one who bought that army range because the Excesior Warpriest came out and people thought Devoted was going to be an army because of it.

 

[sorokyl]

51 minutes ago, alghero81 said:

I never understood why they never reboxed  some of the more popular options from those specialist games like Spire of Dawn, I think only Tzeentch got a special treatment following Silver Tower?

 

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Because skaven and elves are on the same sprues. from (currently) all different factions. You may have 5 different factions on 1 Spire of Dawn Sprue!   All 5 frames are mixed. 

To create, just as an example, the plastic  Warlock Engineer, they must go back to the digital design files, re-layout a sprue, and then have a new mould made.  Redesigning the model from scratch would not be much more expensive... 

Those sculpts are likely not coming back. 

same applies to Silver tower sculpts, (unless they decide to make more Silver Tower box sets... which I think they have confirmed they are not)

I think GW has wised up to this a little bit, and modern sets, like the original AoS starter sets, have the models seperated per faction. That's why they were able to re-release each half as a start collecting box. 

 

[mmmbbb3]

6 hours ago, Kramer said:

Now this thread starts to feel like a bar! Nobody stays on topic, 10 conversations at the same time and people fighting over nothing 😂  cheers fellas! 🍻

We're just missing that guy with one eye and a missing leg in the corner that conspiratorially whispers: 'I once heard that...'  

*tips up hat slightly* "GW model dev? *scoffs* i haven't heard that name in years" and spreading roumers? THAT'S HOW I GOT THIS SCAR! 

[Overread]

I think the Island of Blood stuff can return, but at the same time if its got to be retooled onto a new mould they might well redesign them with more options or make changes. Certainly the sprues contained a lot of core models and on the skaven side some very iconic ones. But they could be remade - eg the weapons team could be remade into a single pair of rats with several backpack and weapon options.

So there's potential to make a lot of changes there. 

 

I do agree it was a short sighted idea to have unique models on joint sprues. Then again GW maybe hoped they'd shift all the original stock so that hwen it came to releasing individual the master moulds would be worn and needing replacement anyway. 

Edited January 24, 2019 by Overread

[azoxystrobin]

On 1/20/2019 at 7:16 PM, novakai said:

hmm I surprise there no Grimgor, I would have though they would have release him for Made to Order by now

They can't really do Grimgor...They can't really mention him really, just like Valten. They were from Storm of Chaos, the worldwide campaign where chaos led by Archaon were supposed to win, but instead lost badly.
Grimgor beat Archaon like archaon was a mucky puppy, let's not forget that.

[novakai]

1 minute ago, azoxystrobin said:

They can't really do Grimgor...They can't really mention him really, just like Valten. They were from Storm of Chaos, the worldwide campaign where chaos led by Archaon were supposed to win, but instead lost badly.
Grimgor beat Archaon like archaon was a mucky puppy, let's not forget that.

?????

you do know what Made to order is right?

it has nothing to do with lore, it just old models from WHF being made one last time for collectors

[TheMuphinMan]

 

15 minutes ago, novakai said:

?????

you do know what Made to order is right?

it has nothing to do with lore, it just old models from WHF being made one last time for collectors

I hope the reason for no Grimgor Made to Order is that they are going to make him the centerpiece for gitmob greenskins beastmasters as Grimgor, Apex of Ghur. 

[amysrevenge]

3 hours ago, Televiper11 said:

How does Hamilcar swing that two-handed axe thing while holding a lantern?

Carefully.

[Sete]

5 hours ago, Deepkin said:

Huh, I always pictured Hamilcar as looking more mediterranean or north african, cuz of the name.

You mean tanned?

[nine7six]

based on the leaked WD cover for Feb, do you think we are getting more stormcast rules next month for vandus and crew?

[relic456]

Just now, nine7six said:

based on the leaked WD cover for Feb, do you think we are getting more stormcast rules next month for vandus and crew?

Yup, they've already been leaked.  Probably can't post here but it's on r/ageofsigmar.

[alghero81]

2 hours ago, sorokyl said:

Because skaven and elves are on the same sprues. from (currently) all different factions. You may have 5 different factions on 1 Spire of Dawn Sprue!   All 5 frames are mixed. 

To create, just as an example, the plastic  Warlock Engineer, they must go back to the digital design files, re-layout a sprue, and then have a new mould made.  Redesigning the model from scratch would not be much more expensive... 

Those sculpts are likely not coming back. 

same applies to Silver tower sculpts, (unless they decide to make more Silver Tower box sets... which I think they have confirmed they are not)

I think GW has wised up to this a little bit, and modern sets, like the original AoS starter sets, have the models seperated per faction. That's why they were able to re-release each half as a start collecting box. 

 

Right thanks, so basically is because the mould is the best part of the cost. That's a real pity because this way they only generate eBay market that is not really GW revenues... To me feels a pity that new miniatures were used to entice people in specialist games or boxes and those are usable only there and only for a limited amount of time. Would make sense to re-use existing miniatures and if you add more, be ready to make them available even afterwards so you don't lose all the work to create the design and mould. In the end the packaging itself is the minor of the costs.

[alghero81]

Btw the leaked rules for Hammerhands look exactly what I would expect from WD rules. Something niche for an already existing army but that adds flavour. So much potential with this template, I just hope they can keep it at a rate of once per month and not just alternate with 40K reducing it to 6 times a year. 
Didn't read the rules, will buy WD, so not sure if they are totally useless, just liked the format similar to the battletome.

[nine7six]

15 minutes ago, relic456 said:

Yup, they've already been leaked.  Probably can't post here but it's on r/ageofsigmar.

awesome found it, thanks!

[Deepkin]

1 hour ago, Sete said:

You mean tanned?

I suppose so, yeah. With darker hair i guess. More like a Carthaginian, which I guess would look more like a modern North African. Cant say it really matters to me, have only read one or so story about him, was just an observation based on the name.

[Sete]

4 minutes ago, Deepkin said:

I suppose so, yeah. With darker hair i guess. More like a Carthaginian, which I guess would look more like a modern North African. Cant say it really matters to me, have only read one or so story about him, was just an observation based on the name.

 I see.   Hamilcar from Hamilcar Barca, was only remembering Hannibal, hence my confusion 😁

[The_Yellow_Sign]

8 hours ago, PJetski said:

Hamilcar really needs a model. He could be the first ASTRAL TEMPLARS special character.

I don't think Stormcast "really need" any new models, personally. They already have a ridiculously huge range.

Also, not a GW release, but Creature Caster are planning to announce a new Beasts of Chaos-compatible creature next month. I'm hoping it's a Shaggoth, but I'd be happy to see anything, really.

Edited January 24, 2019 by The_Yellow_Sign

[Overread]

Note - All the battleforces from Christmas are now listed as "last chance to buy". Furthermore a load of specialst game stuff is last chance too - mostly card based stuff; but a huge chunk of killteam and necromunda cards and associated packs are up for the chop. 

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Warhammer?N=647457687+3907428971&Nr=AND(sku.siteId%3AGB_gw%2Cproduct.locale%3Aen_GB_gw)&Nrs=collection()%2Frecord[product.startDate+<%3D+1548373860000+and+product.endDate+>%3D+1548373860000]

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Boxed-Games?N=3281529261+2385576319&view=all

Seraphon Battleforce is already gone and several of the 40K ones are gone too. So mayhap to grab them whilst you can. There's also A Flesh Eater Courts set up for last grabs too so good to get if you're interested in them since they are getting a likely update soonish (though considering the cultist reveal today I'm wagering that might be a while off as cultists are going to be at least two or three weeks of releases. 

[The_Yellow_Sign]

2 minutes ago, Overread said:

Note - All the battleforces from Christmas are now listed as "last chance to buy". Furthermore a load of specialst game stuff is last chance too - mostly card based stuff; but a huge chunk of killteam and necromunda cards and associated packs are up for the chop. 

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Warhammer?N=647457687+3907428971&Nr=AND(sku.siteId%3AGB_gw%2Cproduct.locale%3Aen_GB_gw)&Nrs=collection()%2Frecord[product.startDate+<%3D+1548373860000+and+product.endDate+>%3D+1548373860000]

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Boxed-Games?N=3281529261+2385576319&view=all

Seraphon Battleforce is already gone and several of the 40K ones are gone too. So mayhap to grab them whilst you can. There's also A Flesh Eater Courts set up for last grabs too so good to get if you're interested in them since they are getting a likely update soonish (though considering the cultist reveal today I'm wagering that might be a while off as cultists are going to be at least two or three weeks of releases. 

Interesting that they're discontinuing some of the Kill Team boxes. I wonder if they're planning to rebox them into larger sets?

[Overread]

With regard to Stormcast I think GW has to ease off with releases for them; the army already has a lot of tools to work with and I think that if they release too much they'll actually spoil the army itself. Plus I'd really like it if they could avoid making Stormcast into a total carbon copy of marines. 

I'd rather see GW work on steady high sales across a wide range of AoS armies and provide support; rather than in 10 years end up with 20 different fully fleshed out Stormcast "Chapters" whilst other armies are left ignored or just not given as many updates. 

[The_Yellow_Sign]

2 hours ago, Overread said:

With regard to Stormcast I think GW has to ease off with releases for them; the army already has a lot of tools to work with and I think that if they release too much they'll actually spoil the army itself. Plus I'd really like it if they could avoid making Stormcast into a total carbon copy of marines. 

I'd rather see GW work on steady high sales across a wide range of AoS armies and provide support; rather than in 10 years end up with 20 different fully fleshed out Stormcast "Chapters" whilst other armies are left ignored or just not given as many updates. 

Yeah it's a worrying trend. One of the reasons I don't play 40K is that it seems like most of the armies are various flavours of space marines or their chaos variants, and there is way too much focus on them.

[The_Yellow_Sign]

Maybe it's a longshot, but does anyone more familiar with the AoS lore think that maybe GW could include Thunderscorn with the eventual chaos undivided release (Darkoath/StD/Everchosen)?  Dragon Ogres used to be available in the WHFB Warriors of Chaos armies and are included in Total War. Could be a chance to be make a sweet Shaggoth centrepiece hero like Kholek Suneater. 

[Nightcast Eternal]

23 minutes ago, The_Yellow_Sign said:

Maybe it's a longshot, but does anyone more familiar with the AoS lore think that maybe GW could include Thunderscorn with the eventual chaos undivided release (Darkoath/StD/Everchosen)?  Dragon Ogres used to be available in the WHFB Warriors of Chaos armies and are included in Total War. Could be a chance to be make a sweet Shaggoth centrepiece hero like Kholek Suneater. 

I mean Dragon Ogres are already a part of Beasts of Chaos... so I feel like they wouldn't put them in another faction