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6 minutes ago, bsharitt said:

I'm told It'll be the 26th, GSC book is going to be in this week's Next Weeks's Preorders. Though this is coming from a guy who's info is vague and he might just be making guesses and getting it right sometimes and some of the vague predictions still haven't hit their time yet(remaining plastic kits will get round bases this year and new battletomes for old armies). This is the most specific info I've heard from the guy and will probably help me decide if he's legit of full of ******. He said that GSC will be last weekend of January for preorder and that FEC would be out in February along side their new box. The closest the guy got was Soul Wars. He's said that there's going to be a new box set and general narrative, but he also said the the core rules were getting a small bump with some clear up, and general errata and FAQ inlined, but it didn't seem like a new edition, maybe a 1.5. But in fairness, the new rules don't say anything about the edition number, and if you read the first and second edition rules next to each other, you might think the later is a clean up of the former.

I think this is a pretty easy prediction to make.  The Community team has followed a pretty concrete formula since last summer.  Once they do an article about an actual unit that includes a rule - it means the book is just about to go up for sale.  Saturday marks the final release wave of new Gloomspite models.  The preorders for this Saturday are all for Specialist games - which seems to regularly be used as a sort of padding or palate-cleanser between major system releases.  GW this week is just finishing up a large AoS release, so they are going to shift gears for about a month to 40k (insert Genestealer Cult army release) and they are fitting in the obligatory Specialist Games release.

I expect that after roughly a 2-week release cycle for 40k Genestealer Cults that we can expect another specialist games release (probably either KillTeam Arena or something for Blackstone Fortress) and then the question is what do they do after that?  My guess is that it will be Flesh Eater Courts vs Skaven box followed shortly by the Flesh Eater army book.  But bear in mind that I have no inside info and I am just guessing.

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23 minutes ago, Skabnoze said:

I think this is a pretty easy prediction to make.  The Community team has followed a pretty concrete formula since last summer.  Once they do an article about an actual unit that includes a rule - it means the book is just about to go up for sale.  Saturday marks the final release wave of new Gloomspite models.  The preorders for this Saturday are all for Specialist games - which seems to regularly be used as a sort of padding or palate-cleanser between major system releases.  GW this week is just finishing up a large AoS release, so they are going to shift gears for about a month to 40k (insert Genestealer Cult army release) and they are fitting in the obligatory Specialist Games release.

I expect that after roughly a 2-week release cycle for 40k Genestealer Cults that we can expect another specialist games release (probably either KillTeam Arena or something for Blackstone Fortress) and then the question is what do they do after that?  My guess is that it will be Flesh Eater Courts vs Skaven box followed shortly by the Flesh Eater army book.  But bear in mind that I have no inside info and I am just guessing.

Blackstone fortress has it's first expansion on the way, it seems to be a very small release with only a couple of models in the box, so maybe it's that. But then there have been a lot of 40k previews over the last few months and the expansion was shown only a couple of weeks ago, so maybe not, might  be a bit soon.

 

 

31 minutes ago, bsharitt said:

but it didn't seem like a new edition, maybe a 1.5.

So we are getting a reverse update? Perhaps we are going back to having silly rules in the warscrolls!  fantastic! haha

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12 hours ago, Gaz Taylor said:

I think the problem is that because they are using a white background, they don't look quite right. Also the image with the female heads on the Stormcast bodies looks photoshoped to me, which is why they might not look quite right.

Part of the problem is that they have never really had a dedicated team for Fantasy/Age of Sigmar. It's only recently they've started building a team but it's only a few people so will take a while for us to see things.

 

Funnily enough, a couple of my friends were at the Warhammer World Open Day and said they saw the rules writer that was previously advertised as working for the AoS FW team working at the Specialist Games table. It also came up in a conversation with the 40k guys, which started with beating the dead horse of questions about Fires of Cyraxis, that all 40K and AoS work is now centred in the main studio, with everything else (Heresy, Lord of the Rings, Necromunda etc) handled by the Forge World Studio.

Obviously it's all speculation as there's no concrete statement from GW but it seems there isn't a AoS team anymore in FW for whatever reason. 

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I love the FW heads, both because I like the sculpts and hopefully it will be a sign of more FW products coming.

Regarding the price keep in mind two things:

1. It's Forgeworld, it's gonna be expensive 

2. You're not supposed to replace all your heads with them, sprinkle them around or use them for heroes

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8 hours ago, Skabnoze said:

I think this is a pretty easy prediction to make.  The Community team has followed a pretty concrete formula since last summer.  Once they do an article about an actual unit that includes a rule - it means the book is just about to go up for sale.  Saturday marks the final release wave of new Gloomspite models.  The preorders for this Saturday are all for Specialist games - which seems to regularly be used as a sort of padding or palate-cleanser between major system releases.  GW this week is just finishing up a large AoS release, so they are going to shift gears for about a month to 40k (insert Genestealer Cult army release) and they are fitting in the obligatory Specialist Games release.

I expect that after roughly a 2-week release cycle for 40k Genestealer Cults that we can expect another specialist games release (probably either KillTeam Arena or something for Blackstone Fortress) and then the question is what do they do after that?  My guess is that it will be Flesh Eater Courts vs Skaven box followed shortly by the Flesh Eater army book.  But bear in mind that I have no inside info and I am just guessing.

I have as little inside information as you do of course, or even less, but what you say makes a lot of sense to me. That seems to be patern indeed, if you look back for the past 1-2 years, with some exceptions. A bit of a guess if the skaven/FEC box will be followed by FEC Battletome (and maybe some new models) but thats what most ppl seem to expect to benext

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They are falling into one of the things that killed fantasy. There are still armies with no books and books that need an update. 

If theres a another rule change so soon it may make newer books obsolete then there will be more books that need doing. 

When aos 2.0 came out they should have done what 40k did and release aload of temporary updated books for most of the armies

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17 minutes ago, ageofpaddsmar said:

They are falling into one of the things that killed fantasy. There are still armies with no books and books that need an update. 

If theres a another rule change so soon it may make newer books obsolete then there will be more books that need doing. 

When aos 2.0 came out they should have done what 40k did and release aload of temporary updated books for most of the armies

I doubt anyone will ever know, but I wonder how many people have gone off the idea of starting AoS because they don't know if the army they like will be forgotten about. I know I would be more hesitant to buy models if I thought my army would never be blessed with a battletome. 

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4 minutes ago, JPjr said:

Nice  to have a basic troop with 2 ranged options also. I hope they are not too hight in points.

By the way, the superb thing that interest me: they are Slave to Darkness !!!  Doarkoath is officially StD. I'm happy.

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31 minutes ago, Enoby said:

I doubt anyone will ever know, but I wonder how many people have gone off the idea of starting AoS because they don't know if the army they like will be forgotten about. I know I would be more hesitant to buy models if I thought my army would never be blessed with a battletome. 

I don't know about those who have gone off and will never return as customers, but it certainly acts as barrier to some looking to get into the game. Both those who have old collections waiting to see if they are valid once more and those who are new, but who like the look/theme of some armies. Heck take the tried and tested staple of a dragon in fantasy. Currently the only Order army with a Battletome that has a dragon is Stormcast - none of the Aelven dragons have a battletome!

That said it is being solved and each time a new tome comes out I certainly see people look up and pay attention to the game! GW's plan is working its just slow, made slower by the fact that unlike a new game, AoS already has many models out there. I'd bet it would be different if AoS was a totally new game with no legacy models and the rate of releases would then seem like an insane speed (which it is of course and it feels like that now, but many are still "waiting" for the speedy release to get to their army(ies)

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If those are the profiles of some future units or the changes to the old ones the future for std is bright

 

Javelins +3+3  -1  d3 as backup unit with low range

Old great weapons increased at 2 damage (chaos warriors, chosens, or new marauders berserkers style) 

+4+4, 2 attacks with 24' bows is not bad

And these too don't have mark option so one of the worst alliance traits is probably going to change

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50 minutes ago, Overread said:

I don't know about those who have gone off and will never return as customers, but it certainly acts as barrier to some looking to get into the game. Both those who have old collections waiting to see if they are valid once more and those who are new, but who like the look/theme of some armies. Heck take the tried and tested staple of a dragon in fantasy. Currently the only Order army with a Battletome that has a dragon is Stormcast - none of the Aelven dragons have a battletome!

That said it is being solved and each time a new tome comes out I certainly see people look up and pay attention to the game! GW's plan is working its just slow, made slower by the fact that unlike a new game, AoS already has many models out there. I'd bet it would be different if AoS was a totally new game with no legacy models and the rate of releases would then seem like an insane speed (which it is of course and it feels like that now, but many are still "waiting" for the speedy release to get to their army(ies)

I think its likely that many of the older factions without a battletome will stay that way for a number of reasons. 1. Tightening up intellectual property (anyone can sell knights, only GW can sell stormcast, orks and elves changed to Orruks and aelves). 2. It makes no business sense to put huge amounts of work into a battletome and maybe 1 or 2 new models so that guy with 3,500pts of brettonians can play them again when you are in the business of selling models. Far better to launch a new faction or update something already supported (i.e. dark elves must largely disappear when malerion's shadow aelves arrive. Ironjawz and KO who need life support)

What I can see happening is certain key factions like skaven, making a big comeback as they have wide appeal, great lore, a presence in the story thread of AOS and a ton of models that are either hard to collect or resin/metal. They, like grots have the potential to sell huge amounts of new and updated models.  

At some point there is also prob going to be an anti nagash death faction and that could mark tomb kings return, perhaps half flesh, half bones.

 

 We also have to remember that 2018 was battletome rapid fire for 40k and they could easily be planning the same for supported AOS factions this year. 

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2 hours ago, calcysimon said:

If those are the profiles of some future units or the changes to the old ones the future for std is bright

 

Javelins +3+3  -1  d3 as backup unit with low range

Old great weapons increased at 2 damage (chaos warriors, chosens, or new marauders berserkers style) 

+4+4, 2 attacks with 24' bows is not bad

And these too don't have mark option so one of the worst alliance traits is probably going to change

 

As someone painting up Chaos Warriors I really really hope this is the case, but I'm pessimistic. I think it's more likely that the new darkoath models will exhibit 'stat inflation', though their lack of armour acts as a gameplay balance for this. Which I think is sad, because I still have the Old World mindset of Chaos Warriors being elite champions that the marauding tribes aspire to be. 

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The sad fact is the highest selling new release GW could do would be a proper order human faction. Without that age of sigmar is a dull and lifeless setting. Their refusal to update freeguild or evolve them into something new is very perplexing and lessens my care about the wider world of the eight realms. Its a totally ungrounded setting. 

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2 hours ago, Laststand said:

I think its likely that many of the older factions without a battletome will stay that way for a number of reasons. 1. Tightening up intellectual property (anyone can sell knights, only GW can sell stormcast, orks and elves changed to Orruks and aelves). 2. It makes no business sense to put huge amounts of work into a battletome and maybe 1 or 2 new models so that guy with 3,500pts of brettonians can play them again when you are in the business of selling models. Far better to launch a new faction or update something already supported (i.e. dark elves must largely disappear when malerion's shadow aelves arrive. Ironjawz and KO who need life support)

What I can see happening is certain key factions like skaven, making a big comeback as they have wide appeal, great lore, a presence in the story thread of AOS and a ton of models that are either hard to collect or resin/metal. They, like grots have the potential to sell huge amounts of new and updated models.  

At some point there is also prob going to be an anti nagash death faction and that could mark tomb kings return, perhaps half flesh, half bones.

 

 We also have to remember that 2018 was battletome rapid fire for 40k and they could easily be planning the same for supported AOS factions this year. 

I think we could definitely need some battletomes come out for older factions. I think factions in the GHB are definitely safe and will see books with some updated models. Darkling covens I don't think will be squatted when they have allegiance abilities now, same with freeguild and old-dwarves. Now old high elves are certainly in a weird spot. The closest to be a full faction is swifthawk agents, but with no abilities and all of their models really being old kits you can't get anymore, who knows where they will go. 

Also, we saw beasts of chaos which threw several factions together to form a larger faction. Perhaps this is what will happen to old high elves so that they can work together again. Maybe it'll be more akin to Elves in end times with lists allowing all the elves to work together. So just because some factions dont have abilities at the moment, I think they can get thrown in. I'm assuming at this point a skaven book right now will contain all of the clans, BoC or LoN style.

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Not sure if this has been already posted by a nice little reference from the Gloomspite Gits Battletome 

"The Bad Moon possesses its own strange satellite, a hurtling lump of misshapen rock that runs mad rings around it at breakneck pace. Some grots believe this to be the Bad Moon’s excitable pet squig. Others say it is Gorkamorka’s mace, or perhaps his fist, always swinging wildly to smash other celestial bodies out of the way. Others claim that the Bad Moon itself is Gork’s head and the satellite Mork’s, or perhaps vice versa. The Nosebiter hordes of the Pointyklaws mountain range maintain that this smaller object is the spirit of an ancient Moonclan chieftain who conquered eight great mountain peaks, and so was blessed to accompany Gorkamorka’s rampage through the skies for all of time."

I wonder who they could be talking about :D

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On 1/18/2019 at 10:47 AM, Overread said:

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Stormcast-Eternals-Heads-Upgrade-1-2019

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Stormcast-Eternals-Heads-Upgrade-2-2019

Two sets of resin heads for Stormcast Eternals from Forgeworld! 

I wonder if they'll address alternate heads for other factions too - I hope so if only to avoid the Stormcast becoming Marines in marketing fully! 

As mentioned before. The male heads have about the right size (though they don‘t seem to fit well due to beards etc.)

the female heads have too short necks and too small heads -_- the quality-check team failed hard concerning them (which is sad, about 9 of them look great)

Imo if they release upgrade kits they should do so for all Stormhosts at once including plastic heads.

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