Neil Arthur Hotep Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 I'm personally not really sure I like 4+ saves on big monsters better than 3+. Even considering how strong god models are right now. In my mind, 3+ seems appropriate for a big, armoured monster. Even getting to 2+ with a save buff would not be too problematic without rend stacking and easy heroic recovery. You can still break through a 2+ save in a few turns if you have rend -2 or just lots of rend -1. And honestly, if I look at a unit like Nagash who is very nearly 1000 points now, you should not be able to kill him or make him useless in a turn by hitting him with one of your hammers and maybe some shooting. I think the current save values and ease of buffing saves would be fine if you could not stack to protect against rend. If big monsters were capped at 2+, no rerolls or easy ignore rend, things would honestly probably be managable. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orkmann Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 What did the poor cabbage do to deserve such cruel fate as getting a 4+ armor save? 😁 For the record, I won't mind getting some of those big baddies nerfed, but can we please start with other's toys first? 😇 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EntMan Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Marcvs said: 2 hours ago, SunStorm said: How many people play the game currently using just the free warscrolls and not the associated army books? I play with the (digital) BT but I use the freely available warscrolls on the freely available app (rest in peace) *all the time* to check both my units' and the opponent's warscrolls. So this looks more and more likely to result in (another) straight downgrade of my experience with AoS For me money is tight. I rely on the free warscrolls. I can justify £25 for the Cities tome, just, but if I then have to buy the SCE and Sylvaneth tomes to have the rules for all my units then that's £75 just for the rules for my army. And against family finances I can't justify that. Even worse is not being able to research what my opponents might be bringing to the table. Am I meant to buy the tome for every faction I might face? Edited September 3, 2021 by EntMan 16 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schwabbele Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 28 minutes ago, EntMan said: Even worse is not being able to research what my opponents might be bringing to the table. Am I meant to buy the tome for every faction I might face? You could try battlescribe for research. It is a little bit clunky in the beginning though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annarborhawk Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Marcvs said: PSA: updated faq for sylvaneth, GHB, and core rules are online I'm I reading this right? Looks like they deleted the after-ward extra ward FAQ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronWilson Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, annarborhawk said: I'm I reading this right? Looks like they deleted the after-ward extra ward FAQ? They have changed to say all old saves which are worded to "Negate" a wound are treated as ward, so we're back to one save + a ward save, no stacking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twisted Firaun Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/09/03/4-ways-the-black-templars-take-zealotry-to-a-whole-new-level/ For @Black_Templar_Lad, looks like your boys are going to get a good release real soon. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSalabean Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 6 hours ago, Loyal Son of Khemri said: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/09/03/4-ways-the-black-templars-take-zealotry-to-a-whole-new-level/ For @Black_Templar_Lad, looks like your boys are going to get a good release real soon. This isn’t allowed. I’m not allowed to get a new army until I’ve finish my current ones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_Templar_Lad Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 14 hours ago, Loyal Son of Khemri said: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/09/03/4-ways-the-black-templars-take-zealotry-to-a-whole-new-level/ For @Black_Templar_Lad, looks like your boys are going to get a good release real soon. Thanks for the tag mate just read this article now, oh boi! I preferred it when they didn't believe The Emperor was a God, and just venerated him as THE greatest being of all humanity, but this right here is exactly why I love the Templars, just brothers utterly driven to their cause and will fight on no matter what stands in their way. I shall finally achieve my final form once the army box is released. Hope it's straight back to AoS after that! 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuttyknatty Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 16 hours ago, schwabbele said: You could try battlescribe for research. It is a little bit clunky in the beginning though. I’ve recently discovered wahpedia. A great resource for those don’t want to buy every single battletome. 10 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baiardo Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 3 hours ago, nuttyknatty said: I’ve recently discovered wahpedia. A great resource for those don’t want to buy every single battletome. I've been using it for a few years now and it's simply the best support ever for gw games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Taylor Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 +++ Mod Hat On +++ Just a reminder to get back on the topic of rumours please. Pretty sure we might be seeing some AOS releases this month so we may see some rumours soon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltek Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 Do we have any info on the new Troggoths yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maogrim Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 As far as I'm aware the only new anything we got in the last three weeks was the unknown Kruleboy with Scareshield, spear and pet vulture, but we don't know anything about him either. So any actual information is, as I've said, at least three weeks old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baiardo Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Voltek said: Do we have any info on the new Troggoths yet I've missed that rumor!so new troggoths are coming, you know something more? Edited September 4, 2021 by baiardo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBrodd Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 Hopefully we get a roadmap in the next few weeks for Underworlds. Just like they did for last Season. We dont even need dates on it just the sequenchel order the Warbands are going to release alongside their Factions Glyph. Thatll generate some hype and rumours!! I believe we may see the next Season kick off in January and become a Jan-Dec event before Season 6 in January 2023. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captaniser Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 More rend on the gore hacka is nice though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurrilino Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 11 hours ago, Black_Templar_Lad said: Thanks for the tag mate just read this article now, oh boi! I preferred it when they didn't believe The Emperor was a God, and just venerated him as THE greatest being of all humanity, but this right here is exactly why I love the Templars, just brothers utterly driven to their cause and will fight on no matter what stands in their way. I shall finally achieve my final form once the army box is released. Hope it's straight back to AoS after that! How the hell is this related to AOS rumours? 1 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DynamicCalories Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 15 minutes ago, baiardo said: I've missed that rumor!so new troggoths are coming, you know something more? It’s just the Breaka-boss on Mirebrute Troggoth that’s being discussed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollowHills Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Kurrilino said: How the hell is this related to AOS rumours? It's not, but it's nice to see forum regulars getting hyped about their stuff. 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogregut Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 Seeing as there are only 3 Saturdays left in the month, we could get the announcement that the SCE and OW stuff is going on pre order next week. I'm hoping for something like this 11th - week 1 of AoS preorders, last lot of 40k orks 18th - week 2 of aos preorders, some boxed game stuff maybe. 27th - Black templar army box. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBrodd Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Ogregut said: Seeing as there are only 3 Saturdays left in the month, we could get the announcement that the SCE and OW stuff is going on pre order next week. I'm hoping for something like this 11th - week 1 of AoS preorders, last lot of 40k orks 18th - week 2 of aos preorders, some boxed game stuff maybe. 27th - Black templar army box. I'd love for this to happen!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benkei Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 (edited) I honestly don't think the AoS app is remotely close to finished so i highly doubt we are gonna get battletome preorders before the last weekend of September, and im not sure we will even then. This is probably one of the worst releases of a new edition i have ever seen. Edited September 4, 2021 by Benkei 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted September 4, 2021 Share Posted September 4, 2021 Am I crazy or did warhammer+ originally say it came with beta access to the app? Assuming I'm remembering correctly than has anyone gotten beta access or is it really that far from launching? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adreal Posted September 5, 2021 Share Posted September 5, 2021 1 hour ago, The Red King said: Am I crazy or did warhammer+ originally say it came with beta access to the app? Assuming I'm remembering correctly than has anyone gotten beta access or is it really that far from launching? Pretty sure it was full access to the app, minus the stuff in the new battletomes, and maybe, if it's ready the list building software Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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